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Just for sh*ts .... Despres for Kassian? - YouMeAndDupuis9
I live in Vancouver and I love Kassian, so do a lot of the fans
As a fan of both teams, this is a very sensible deal, Although Kassian is a little rough around the edges and probably can't step in right away and be an effective top 6
When he puts it all together (much like Despres) he will be a beast
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rival22
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Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY Joined: 02.27.2007
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Well we have a new GM so its quite unpredictable. Something will happen to bring a forward or two in, just dont have any clue what GMJR is thinking/targeting.
Bring in a guy under 27 who is not a rental, thats all I ask. There's lots of them out there...
Perron, Jurco, Rattie, Silfverberg, Palmieri, Cogliano, B. Rtichie, Connolly, Palat, Killorn, Nino....
I think Martin + Sutter to ANA for Cogliano + Palmieri/Silvferberg might be interesting. - YouMeAndDupuis9
Pass on Cogliano... I'm tired of undersized forwards who show flashes once in a while. I'm not even sure he ever hits 20 goals again. |
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sammy87
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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I am interested in what Yak will get resigned for, he's an RFA after this year
He's shown very little, but he's not going to sign a 2 year/5 million bridge contract
They are going to have to pay him, or he could bolt to the KHL
Edmonton wil move him if they don't think they can resign him for reasonable $$$ - RoloTahmasee
When no decent ufas sign in edm, they will pay him. |
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rival22
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Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY Joined: 02.27.2007
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Ph has yet to work wth 71, why keep him there? - sammy87
They've had some good moments the last couple games, but I'm not set in stone with them at all. But I like that top six in one form or another. |
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To Chicago
Kunitz, Dumoulin, 3rd
To Pens
Sharp and Morin
Main motivator here is chicago stays competitive, saves $2-3M on the cap, helps avoid cap hell this offseason. Just thinking outside the box... |
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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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To Chicago
Kunitz, Dumoulin, 3rd
To Pens
Sharp and Morin
Main motivator here is chicago stays competitive, saves $2-3M on the cap, helps avoid cap hell this offseason. Just thinking outside the box... - YouMeAndDupuis9
Sharp is like 32 with several more yrs at 5, no thanks |
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I live in Vancouver and I love Kassian, so do a lot of the fans
As a fan of both teams, this is a very sensible deal, Although Kassian is a little rough around the edges and probably can't step in right away and be an effective top 6
When he puts it all together (much like Despres) he will be a beast - RoloTahmasee
Fair enough. Sounds like the value is close but the fact that Kassian is a fan favorite, and potentially not ready to be on a line with 87 or 71...maybe there isn't a fit. |
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Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 12.28.2013
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To Chicago
Kunitz, Dumoulin, 3rd
To Pens
Sharp and Morin
Main motivator here is chicago stays competitive, saves $2-3M on the cap, helps avoid cap hell this offseason. Just thinking outside the box... - YouMeAndDupuis9
Sharp > kunitz ... But not for the $ ... Kunitz maybe ready to move to a bottom six role I'm the coming years ... But his 3.7 dollar cap number is great |
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Sharp > kunitz ... But not for the $ ... Kunitz maybe ready to move to a bottom six role I'm the coming years ... But his 3.7 dollar cap number is great - Brianandr1
Kunitz cap number is great for *this* year. Both of them may be pretty well overpayed at the end of their contracts. Plus we actually have the extra cap space now with Duper out. Plus, this particular trade also had Morin who is like a throw in for them (playing on the 4th line) but could work out nicely here. Just a thought.. |
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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA Joined: 09.29.2010
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Nice write up &
The Islanders are for real. - thank you for the acknowledgement ..... - Ur Not Me
Before the season I predicted the pens and isles would finish 1, 2 in the metro and people thought I was crazy. It's a long season but if this keeps up the isles might make some real noise in three playoffs... hungry team with youth and really skilled guys like Tavares.
I like the Perron suggestion. Oil definitely need dman, that team is a tire fire.what they need though are solid veterans who can help overcome the losing culture they've created. Not sure if another young player will do that for them. |
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Okay, the creative juices are flowing today so I'll throw out some far-fetched ideas...
Sutter, Harrington, 1st, Spaling for Perron and Yakupov
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Sutter, Dumo, Kunitz for Perron and Yakupov
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Maatta, Sutter, 2nd for Hall, Marcinin |
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Okay, the creative juices are flowing today so I'll throw out some far-fetched ideas...
Sutter, Harrington, 1st, Spaling for Perron and Yakupov
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Maatta, Sutter, 2nd for Hall, Marcinin - YouMeAndDupuis9
The first one is okay. That second one, though? Not even close. If it was Eberle, I could see it but definitely not Hall. |
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Okay last irrational, video game like thought of the day...
Have at least 7 capable defenseman, and more of a need for a winger than ever before....give Letang a 5 game trial at wing |
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Brianandr1
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 12.28.2013
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Kunitz cap number is great for *this* year. Both of them may be pretty well overpayed at the end of their contracts. Plus we actually have the extra cap space now with Duper out. Plus, this particular trade also had Morin who is like a throw in for them (playing on the 4th line) but could work out nicely here. Just a thought.. - YouMeAndDupuis9
Once again I'm going to make the point kuni has shown zero signs of decline statistically ... 2 years left at 3.7 is overplayed ??? Maybe we need to get him a walker because I have no idea how he ll get thru it??? I'm really just starting to think you hate kuni as none of your arguements are based in statistical facts!! |
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The first one is okay. That second one, though? Not even close. If it was Eberle, I could see it but definitely not Hall. - MaximumBone
Maatta for Hall as a base point isn't that far fetched. It would never happen but Maatta is a #1 D-man currently on an ELC. Both teams like those two players way to much for a deal to ever happen. |
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Once again I'm going to make the point kuni has shown zero signs of decline statistically ... 2 years left at 3.7 is overplayed ??? Maybe we need to get him a walker because I have no idea how he ll get thru it??? I'm really just starting to think you hate kuni as none of your arguements are based in statistical facts!! - Brianandr1
I'm not bashing him at all. Simply saying that 2 years from now Sharp at $5M and Kunitz at $3.7 are pretty close in terms of bang for your buck. |
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Maatta for Hall as a base point isn't that far fetched. It would never happen but Maatta is a #1 D-man currently on an ELC. Both teams like those two players way to much for a deal to ever happen. - YouMeAndDupuis9
Don't get me wrong when I say this because I respect his talents, but by what statistical measure is he a #1? He plays neither the most minutes (all three of Letang, Martin, and Ehrhoff are above him) nor the hardest minutes (could be argued Martin/Ehrhoff receive tougher ZS but lesser competition). He's a great young Dman and could well become a #1 Dman in a couple years, but by no measure is he one right now.
Again, were it Eberle, I'd be more receptive but there's no chance you get both Hall and one of our best Dmen in exchange for an minor upgrade on our young Dman (Maata>Marincin), a 3C, and a pick. |
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I'm not bashing him at all. Simply saying that 2 years from now Sharp at $5M and Kunitz at $3.7 are pretty close in terms of bang for your buck. - YouMeAndDupuis9
I'm a big fan of Patrick Sharp - If Chicago is serious about moving him, We should make a serious offer to get him |
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Don't get me wrong when I say this because I respect his talents, but by what statistical measure is he a #1? He plays neither the most minutes (all three of Letang, Martin, and Ehrhoff are above him) nor the hardest minutes (could be argued Martin/Ehrhoff receive tougher ZS but lesser competition). He's a great young Dman and could well become a #1 Dman in a couple years, but by no measure is he one right now.
Again, were it Eberle, I'd be more receptive but there's no chance you get both Hall and one of our best Dmen in exchange for an minor upgrade on our young Dman (Maata>Marincin), a 3C, and a pick. - MaximumBone
Edmonton would be stupid to trade Hall for anyone
Eberle is kinda soff, but Kunitz/Sid/Eberle would be a heck of a line combo to turn town
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Edmonton would be stupid to trade Hall for anyone
Eberle is kinda soff, but Kunitz/Sid/Eberle would be a heck of a line combo to turn town - RoloTahmasee
I'd love to see Eberle on a contender |
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Don't get me wrong when I say this because I respect his talents, but by what statistical measure is he a #1? He plays neither the most minutes (all three of Letang, Martin, and Ehrhoff are above him) nor the hardest minutes (could be argued Martin/Ehrhoff receive tougher ZS but lesser competition). He's a great young Dman and could well become a #1 Dman in a couple years, but by no measure is he one right now.
Again, were it Eberle, I'd be more receptive but there's no chance you get both Hall and one of our best Dmen in exchange for an minor upgrade on our young Dman (Maata>Marincin), a 3C, and a pick. - MaximumBone
Fair enough. If Maatta had another year or two under his belt and proven to consistently be a # 1 D-man... plus, I guess Marincin is more highly regarded prospect than I thought. Just looking for a decent prospect who could be at least a 4-5 defenseman to offset the loss of Maatta. Anyway...just pointless speculation anyway haha. |
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Fair enough. If Maatta had another year or two under his belt and proven to consistently be a # 1 D-man... plus, I guess Marincin is more highly regarded prospect than I thought. Just looking for a decent prospect who could be at least a 4-5 defenseman to offset the loss of Maatta. Anyway...just pointless speculation anyway haha. - YouMeAndDupuis9
You could probably get Petry. Edmonton management has no confidence in him despite him being our best Dman. He's a UFA, though it'd be hard to imagine him not being down to resign with a contender like Pittsburgh. |
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usethe1-2-2
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 03.02.2014
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You could probably get Petry. Edmonton management has no confidence in him despite him being our best Dman. He's a UFA, though it'd be hard to imagine him not being down to resign with a contender like Pittsburgh. - MaximumBone
What about trading pick and prospects for Perron, like blue chip D and a first, for Perron. Edmonton having yet another high first should be able to then turn that into a trade for a legit top six center.
I know its a deep draft but a guy like ROR from Colorado for a young D and a few good picks?
Might be outside the realm of realistic but plausible. |
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What about trading pick and prospects for Perron, like blue chip D and a first, for Perron. Edmonton having yet another high first should be able to then turn that into a trade for a legit top six center.
I know its a deep draft but a guy like ROR from Colorado for a young D and a few good picks?
Might be outside the realm of realistic but plausible. - usethe1-2-2
Don't think Edmonton should be looking at trading proven players on contracts for prospects or picks. Unless the blue-chip D prospect is Pouliot, I wouldn't have interest. |
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usethe1-2-2
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 03.02.2014
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Don't think Edmonton should be looking at trading proven players on contracts for prospects or picks. Unless the blue-chip D prospect is Pouliot, I wouldn't have interest. - MaximumBone
It wouldnt be. The pens will not include him unless it is for someone like Evander Kane |
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