at least we aren't this.


- TheJerseyDevil1

Omg... Times be rough in Edmonton.

you can say what you want about Larsson, but it was Andy Greene that looked like a deer in the headlights! He was terrible...and I still don't see why he gets a free pass when it comes to bashing on these threads. He hasn't put a shot on goal in three weeks (and he missed one last night from 10 feet out....). For a while it was easy to say he was their best defender...with Volky, Sal, Harrold, Zids and Fayne...he had better be the best! But that is no longer true. The Devils should try and move him NOW while they may still be able to get a decent return....Larsson can and will by-pass Greene as will Severson and the rest of the kids on the blue line. Maybe get a center that will enable Zajac to move into either a #2 or #3 role where he belongs.

To be honest whoever drafts Eichel or McDavid will probably turn their franchises around within a couple years at least to the point that they are making the playoffs. But what this organization would need to do to get even a decent shot at either of them seems like an unnecessary risk. We have a top goalie for the next 7 years, we have an inexperienced defense at the moment that could easily turn into one of the best within a couple seasons. Why risk 10+ years of futility for nothing?
- rmdevil313

I don't think we should tank but I wouldn't mind us cutting some fat from the offense and play some more young guys. We just don't have the young guys to play at best we have two in Boucher and Matteau. Clearly the organization doesn't feel they are ready yet though so that's just a dream.

You guys realize that we could still get Mcdavid/Eichel without tanking right? Admittedly its incredibly slim but any team that misses the playoffs has a shot at the 1st overall pick

Well if the Edmonton Oilers organization wasn't so damn "boc bocawk!" to make a trade, they might actually address their concerns.

Get rid of their president, GM, coach... clean house. Vancouver did that, look where they are this year? I thought awful days were ahead, but they addressed the virus' of their organization and cleared them (Tortz, their goalie problem, Kesler)... they can't hate the Schneider trade too much... they have a pretty good prospect in Horvat.

Whoever is running that team needs to make a BIG trade to shake things up to try to get that losing attitude expelled from the organization. Obviously, their first two lines don't work. They should have moved Yakupov by now, maybe even Eberle. It doesn't even matter if you "lose the trade" a little. Chances are, you make two big deals, you win one and lose the other.

This is what you miss about the late 80s early 90s... when teams were sucking out, they'd make a hockey trade to try to shake things up. Quebec sucked as much as Edmonton does right now, but they made moves to finally get some respectable players. Yeah, they lost the Sundin/Nolan trade, but they completely looted Philly on the Lindros trade and they won the Roy trade. They took their chances and turned into a franchise that won two cups.

You guys realize that we could still get Mcdavid/Eichel without tanking right? Admittedly its incredibly slim but any team that misses the playoffs has a shot at the 1st overall pick
- bobert836

After winning the lottery to get Larsson, I doubt that meteor falls on us twice. But you never know... NHL might take pity on Jersey for losing Kovy/Parise in successive years. And it would be McDavid. Eichel is pretty good, but he doesn't hold a candle to McDavid.

After winning the lottery to get Larsson, I doubt that meteor falls on us twice. But you never know... NHL might take pity on Jersey for losing Kovy/Parise in successive years. And it would be McDavid. Eichel is pretty good, but he doesn't hold a candle to McDavid.
- archromat

The kid is unbelievable the stuff he is doing at BU for his age. I would draft that guy in a heart beat

After winning the lottery to get Larsson, I doubt that meteor falls on us twice. But you never know... NHL might take pity on Jersey for losing Kovy/Parise in successive years. And it would be McDavid. Eichel is pretty good, but he doesn't hold a candle to McDavid.
- archromat

Eichel is doing pretty good for himself. You never know what he could be putting up were he playing in the OHL as well. Obviously Mcdavid has pulled out in frnt with his early season play, but you never know how he'll be after coming back from his hand injury.

Saying that, were it me, I'd more than likely pick Mcdavid. I'd say that Eichel is more of a western conference player and Mcdavid more eastern

nice to see you got your little quick jab there at Larsson Todd haha its always somebodies fault, that much is obvious, but other people were on the ice as well and Todd drops Larssons name and defends PDB. I see a theme here.

Eichel is doing pretty good for himself. You never know what he could be putting up were he playing in the OHL as well. Obviously Mcdavid has pulled out in frnt with his early season play, but you never know how he'll be after coming back from his hand injury.

Saying that, were it me, I'd more than likely pick Mcdavid. I'd say that Eichel is more of a western conference player and Mcdavid more eastern
- bobert836

Eichel has been nothing short of amazing this year and is doing it against higher competition. McDavid started at #1 and is still there, but I don't think there is a mile between there skill sets. If McDavid slips up Eichel will easily overtake #1. I actually think this is the closest to a real controversy over who will go #1 than other years, even with McDavid being the most hyped player since Sid.

nice to see you got your little quick jab there at Larsson Todd haha its always somebodies fault, that much is obvious, but other people were on the ice as well and Todd drops Larssons name and defends PDB. I see a theme here.
- SteveJ123

He wasn't blaming larsson.

I don't think we should tank but I wouldn't mind us cutting some fat from the offense and play some more young guys. We just don't have the young guys to play at best we have two in Boucher and Matteau. Clearly the organization doesn't feel they are ready yet though so that's just a dream.
- NickA

I don't disagree. And I hate to use this Lou quote, but if we have time why not use it? No one's gonna lose value between now and the deadline, its probably still best for Boucher and Matteau to get top minutes in albany, and this season could still go either way.

He wasn't blaming larsson.
- rmdevil313

he chose to say his name for some reason. Last time I checked there were others out there in that same moment and he for some reason says Larsson... Todd deff chose his words correctly in saying he's not pinning it on Lars, but why say his name then?

You guys realize that we could still get Mcdavid/Eichel without tanking right? Admittedly its incredibly slim but any team that misses the playoffs has a shot at the 1st overall pick
- bobert836

well at least Pitt can't get them..

Eichel has been nothing short of amazing this year and is doing it against higher competition. McDavid started at #1 and is still there, but I don't think there is a mile between there skill sets. If McDavid slips up Eichel will easily overtake #1. I actually think this is the closest to a real controversy over who will go #1 than other years, even with McDavid being the most hyped player since Sid.
- rmdevil313

I remember the Hall vs Seguin debate. both are still pretty good players; very different.

I remember the Hall vs Seguin debate. both are still pretty good players; very different.
- MartysBetter88

Yeah, now that I think of it there have been quite a few good ones, Jones-McKinnon 2 years ago, I remember quite a few players being #1 in Larsson's draft year. I guess its as close as any of the recent drafts.

I remember the Hall vs Seguin debate. both are still pretty good players; very different.
- MartysBetter88

I still hold that the oilers were idiots taking Hall over Seguin. Said it then, and I'll say it now

I don't disagree. And I hate to use this Lou quote, but if we have time why not use it? No one's gonna lose value between now and the deadline, its probably still best for Boucher and Matteau to get top minutes in albany, and this season could still go either way.
- rmdevil313

Will just have to trust they are doing right by them. Definitely don't want to rush them and have another Teddy/JJ incident where they barely play and are clearly in over there heads when they do.
I just look around the league and see all these young guys and look at some of the bums we have playing and think how are Boucher/Matteau not ready or better than these guys? They certainly can't be any worse and also would love for them to learn from Jagr. But like I said before I'm dreaming with this way too many guys on the roster blocking them.

I still hold that the oilers were idiots taking Hall over Seguin. Said it then, and I'll say it now
- bobert836

I think they're both great. You could say the Oilers needed a center more than a winger, but you should always draft the best available at #1 overall. They thought Hall was the best player, and its really too close to call one way or the other so far.

It's really incredible what Edmonton has accomplished over the last decade. The highest they've finished since 01-02.. was 14th in 2003!

25th in '07
19th in '08!
21st in '09
30th in '10
30th in '11
29th in '12
24th in '13
28th in '14

ALL THOSE DRAFT PICKS... picking in the front of every round! mind-boggling....
30, 30, 29, 24, 28 ... currently tied for 30th with BUFFALO, injured beyond belief Columbus, and Carolina. This is a team with all those top picks, some of which have come of age now.

At some point, I give the fans a pass for whatever they do, whether I agree with it or not.

I just don't understand what goes on inside that organization. ESPN should do a 30 for 30 about the Oilers since 2000 and how they've been a model for what you want your franchise NOT to be. Idk any of the trades that lost them picks/players, guys retiring prematurely, exactly who in the organization has been fired/hired/died/whatever the case. There has to be some reason for all of this.

TG wrote an article on Larsson getting better:

“It’s not easy when you’re in and out all the time,” said Larsson, “Your confidence kind of takes a beating from that. But, once you’re in and feel confident, you can play more aggressive and you feel that you can make mistakes, so it goes hand in hand.”

I h8 you, Deboer.

TG wrote an article on Larsson getting better:

“It’s not easy when you’re in and out all the time,” said Larsson, “Your confidence kind of takes a beating from that. But, once you’re in and feel confident, you can play more aggressive and you feel that you can make mistakes, so it goes hand in hand.”

I h8 you, Deboer.
- TheJerseyDevil1

couldn't agree more.