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TWGsabres
Joined: 06.26.2013

Nov 22 @ 12:14 PM ET
I cannot say if Myers is a part of the future in Buffalo or not. That is up to Tim Murray and Company to decide.

I can say this, while you are all paying attention to Zad's and Risto's chemistry building here in Buffalo as a paired D situation, and that is good, might I hint to paying close attention to Pysyk, McCabe and especially Ruhwedel. For those that wrote off Ruhwedel, his offensive contributions as a defenseman are not going unnoticed at FNC. There is real talk of him on a 3/4 setting with the big club.

Now, and I shouldn't say this, especially with the GM meetings coming up, but, ask yourselves this, you know Myers skill sets, primarily his wing span and his offensive rushes up ice, take a look at Ruhwedel, while not as tall as Myers, does he offer the same package offensively as Myers? And if so, what's the difference in their defensive play?

All I can say is, although Myers is a taller player and able to cover more ice with the stick and his skating, Ruhwedel, while not as tall, offers similar defensive traits. Once again, this has definitely not gone unnoticed at FNC.

Enjoy your thanksgiving all.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Nov 22 @ 12:23 PM ET
I cannot say if Myers is a part of the future in Buffalo or not. That is up to Tim Murray and Company to decide.

I can say this, while you are all paying attention to Zad's and Risto's chemistry building here in Buffalo as a paired D situation, and that is good, might I hint to paying close attention to Pysyk, McCabe and especially Ruhwedel. For those that wrote off Ruhwedel, his offensive contributions as a defenseman are not going unnoticed at FNC. There is real talk of him on a 3/4 setting with the big club.

Now, and I shouldn't say this, especially with the GM meetings coming up, but, ask yourselves this, you know Myers skill sets, primarily his wing span and his offensive rushes up ice, take a look at Ruhwedel, while not as tall as Myers, does he offer the same package offensively as Myers? And if so, what's the difference in their defensive play?

All I can say is, although Myers is a taller player and able to cover more ice with the stick and his skating, Ruhwedel, while not as tall, offers similar defensive traits. Once again, this has definitely not gone unnoticed at FNC.

Enjoy your thanksgiving all.

- TWGsabres


I like McCabe's upside more than Rudwedel. But great insight.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Nov 22 @ 12:35 PM ET
A few weeks ago Andrew Peters brought up the idea of moving Myers up to the wing. It definitely would be an interesting idea. He would be able to start the rush from further up the ice, use his size and reach to work the offensive corners, have the speed to get back and help out defensively while having less defensive responsibility. Could still play the pp and ok. Don't think it's a terrible idea.
rsg87
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.14.2007

Nov 22 @ 12:38 PM ET
He also has yet to do anything to prove he's a top 4 NHL defensemen right now.

Really sucks he can't go to the AHL for this year, seems like he could have been ready for a big role as early as next season

- sbroads24


I have to respectfully disagree. Judging him solely on the 9 games he has played this season, he has been one of Buffalo's top 4 defenders in almost every game. Some nights I would argue he was one of our top 2 defensemen. I think we also need to put this into perspective, it's not whether he is a top 4 nhl defensemen, but a top 4 defensemen on this team. I would say the only defensemen this year that have been better than him are Myers, Gorges, and Risto.

You look at our other d-men: Meszaros and Benoit have been terrible. Weber has been so so but I would say Zads has been better. Strachan is what he is, just a seventh d-man.

If you want to talk about guys in the minors, I could see an argument that Psyck is better now, but it would be close. Regardless, based on the guys that have played in the NHL this season, Zads has been one of the 4 best D-men on the ice for the Sabres.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Nov 22 @ 12:39 PM ET
A few weeks ago Andrew Peters brought up the idea of moving Myers up to the wing. It definitely would be an interesting idea. He would be able to start the rush from further up the ice, use his size and reach to work the offensive corners, have the speed to get back and help out defensively while having less defensive responsibility. Could still play the pp and ok. Don't think it's a terrible idea.
- adambuffalo

You lost me at ...'Andrew Peters brought up...'
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Nov 22 @ 12:53 PM ET
just keep losing and i'm happy ..
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 22 @ 12:55 PM ET
A few weeks ago Andrew Peters brought up the idea of moving Myers up to the wing. It definitely would be an interesting idea. He would be able to start the rush from further up the ice, use his size and reach to work the offensive corners, have the speed to get back and help out defensively while having less defensive responsibility. Could still play the pp and ok. Don't think it's a terrible idea.
- adambuffalo

I do. He's a top pairing defensemen. I'd rather trade him then experiment with him at wing
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 22 @ 12:55 PM ET
He's playing well, but it still doesn't sit well with me that he "earned" his spot by he and his agent essentially holding a gun to the Sabres' head. Of the 3 guys that were highly debated as to who earned a spot, among him, Reinhart, and Grigorenko, he looked the worst.
- buffalofan19



Can anybody tell me where in the name of almighty Yahuda this idea came from, before it became part of the "truth" that gets tossed around this echo chamber and then accepted as fact.

And how did it ever morph there from (A) Zadarov was precluded by the Transfer rules from playing in the AHL; and (B) the Sabres' rights to Zadarov's services would have been trumped by the KHL if he was returned to juniors. Because under the (A,B) scenario, which is what was reported as the actual case, the party holding the gun was the KHL, not Zadarov and his agent.

I'll hang up and listen...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 22 @ 12:58 PM ET
I have to respectfully disagree. Judging him solely on the 9 games he has played this season, he has been one of Buffalo's top 4 defenders in almost every game. Some nights I would argue he was one of our top 2 defensemen. I think we also need to put this into perspective, it's not whether he is a top 4 nhl defensemen, but a top 4 defensemen on this team. I would say the only defensemen this year that have been better than him are Myers, Gorges, and Risto.

You look at our other d-men: Meszaros and Benoit have been terrible. Weber has been so so but I would say Zads has been better. Strachan is what he is, just a seventh d-man.

If you want to talk about guys in the minors, I could see an argument that Psyck is better now, but it would be close. Regardless, based on the guys that have played in the NHL this season, Zads has been one of the 4 best D-men on the ice for the Sabres.

- rsg87


Top 4 NHL defensemen and top 4 Sabre defensemen are 2 different things entirely.

Myers
Gorges
Ristolainen

Those 3 Id say are top 4 guys on most teams as of today

Weber
Benoit
Mezaros
Strachan

Might not make most teams rosters

Zadarov is a top 4 guy by default, I obviously think he will be a good/great NHL player, but he's incredibly raw, if he were exposed to the matchups Myers/Gorges face on a regular basis, I'm not sure we would be too pleased
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Nov 22 @ 12:58 PM ET
A few weeks ago Andrew Peters brought up the idea of moving Myers up to the wing. It definitely would be an interesting idea. He would be able to start the rush from further up the ice, use his size and reach to work the offensive corners, have the speed to get back and help out defensively while having less defensive responsibility. Could still play the pp and ok. Don't think it's a terrible idea.
- adambuffalo


I mean that's why peters is never going to be a coach he thinks you could just move myers and he becomes joe thornton that's not how it works.

I hope to god we trade myers before i see him at wing that would piss me off

this was no disrespect to you of course peters just does not get it
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Nov 22 @ 1:01 PM ET
i see me , sbroads24 agree on Myers ..

it would just be waste guys that would be the final straw that broke the camel's back.For me
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
i see me , sbroads24 agree on Myers ..

it would just be waste guys that would be the final straw that broke the camel's back.For me

- gerbe75pts

Havent we always?

What TWGSabres posted is exactly what we have said for a while, Myers is this teams best defensemen and he has big value

Except when we say it, we are being "fan boys"
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Nov 22 @ 1:04 PM ET
I like McCabe's upside more than Rudwedel. But great insight.
- Irish 14


I love McCabe i see him turning into a Ryan McDonagh type not as good but very sold

but i see him getting moved for a top RW or LW in the summer sucks but could happen
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 22 @ 1:05 PM ET
I love McCabe i see him turning into a Ryan McDonagh type not as good but very sold

but i see him getting moved for a top RW or LW in the summer sucks but could happen

- gerbe75pts

I hope they keep them all (defensemen)

We aren't that deep at that position
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Nov 22 @ 1:06 PM ET
Havent we always?

What TWGSabres posted is exactly what we have said for a while, Myers is this teams best defensemen and he has big value

Except when we say it, we are being "fan boys"

- sbroads24



Everyday when i see a post that myers sucks or useless or a wussy .. i just want him moved so they can see how good he could be on a better team

it pisses me off
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Nov 22 @ 1:08 PM ET
How dumb do you think Washington feels about giving away filip forsberg for free that dude is a stud

we all knew it was a dumb trade but wow
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Nov 22 @ 1:11 PM ET
I cannot say if Myers is a part of the future in Buffalo or not. That is up to Tim Murray and Company to decide.

I can say this, while you are all paying attention to Zad's and Risto's chemistry building here in Buffalo as a paired D situation, and that is good, might I hint to paying close attention to Pysyk, McCabe and especially Ruhwedel. For those that wrote off Ruhwedel, his offensive contributions as a defenseman are not going unnoticed at FNC. There is real talk of him on a 3/4 setting with the big club.

Now, and I shouldn't say this, especially with the GM meetings coming up, but, ask yourselves this, you know Myers skill sets, primarily his wing span and his offensive rushes up ice, take a look at Ruhwedel, while not as tall as Myers, does he offer the same package offensively as Myers? And if so, what's the difference in their defensive play?

All I can say is, although Myers is a taller player and able to cover more ice with the stick and his skating, Ruhwedel, while not as tall, offers similar defensive traits. Once again, this has definitely not gone unnoticed at FNC.

Enjoy your thanksgiving all.

- TWGsabres


I've noticed. He's made strides in Rochester, yet overlooked by everyone here.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Nov 22 @ 1:11 PM ET
While I realize it's common for fans to fall in love with a player based on a handful of games, I wouldn't be so hasty to put Zadarov on a top tier setting as an NHL defenseman quite yet. As many talent scouts, both amateur and NHL scouts have pointed out to me, he has huge holes in his game yet and isn't nearly up to the required speed at the NHL level. In short, he still has a long way to go.

As for comparing him to Myers, once again, every NHL connected individual I've had the privileged to ask, including a couple of GM's, it's not even close, Myers is volumes ahead. I think the hate from fans as to what "they want Myers to be" and what Myers was always projected to be and is, provides a stark divide in assessing NHL talent. In short, those of you not satisfied, come back down to earth, Myers is still the top of the crop in Buffalo in Defenseman, that, according to every individual I've spoken with to date, and it's not even close. And I'm no Myers cheer leader, but I cannot deny what those in the know say.

- TWGsabres



jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Nov 22 @ 1:15 PM ET
How dumb do you think Washington feels about giving away filip forsberg for free that dude is a stud

we all knew it was a dumb trade but wow

- gerbe75pts


Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Nov 22 @ 1:18 PM ET
Havent we always?

What TWGSabres posted is exactly what we have said for a while, Myers is this teams best defensemen and he has big value

Except when we say it, we are being "fan boys"

- sbroads24



Exactly what I have said that I have been told by the few scouts I know.


But I am also a fan boy.


mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Nov 22 @ 1:24 PM ET
How dumb do you think Washington feels about giving away filip forsberg for free that dude is a stud

we all knew it was a dumb trade but wow

- gerbe75pts



McPhee should have been fired for that one.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Nov 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
I've noticed. He's made strides in Rochester, yet overlooked by everyone here.
- sippyd



True. I think we have focused a bit more on Pysyk and McCabe down there when the real story has been Ruhwedel's development. Is he ahead of both Pysyk and McCabe at this point? I would think so.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Nov 22 @ 1:48 PM ET
True. I think we have focused a bit more on Pysyk and McCabe down there when the real story has been Ruhwedel's development. Is he ahead of both Pysyk and McCabe at this point? I would think so.
- mhp


From what I've been hearing, Pysyk is sulking and McCabe regressed while Ruhwedel is becoming more of a Torey Krug.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Nov 22 @ 1:49 PM ET
Can anybody tell me where in the name of almighty Yahuda this idea came from, before it became part of the "truth" that gets tossed around this echo chamber and then accepted as fact.

And how did it ever morph there from (A) Zadarov was precluded by the Transfer rules from playing in the AHL; and (B) the Sabres' rights to Zadarov's services would have been trumped by the KHL if he was returned to juniors. Because under the (A,B) scenario, which is what was reported as the actual case, the party holding the gun was the KHL, not Zadarov and his agent.

I'll hang up and listen...

- Der Kaiser


Id like to hear a clear-cut explaination myself. What i have heard from Murray is "its complicated" and "we have lawyers working on it."
From what i remember, the control was either in Zadorov's hands or the KHL. One of the two had to sign an agreement in order to allow him to play another year in Juniors, and whichever one it was publicly stated they wouldn't do it. Regardless, the sabres are where they are at by most likely taking the path that allow them to monitor his daily life, attitude, etc. i think him playing decent made the decision easier.
TWGsabres
Joined: 06.26.2013

Nov 22 @ 1:52 PM ET
Post Script:

I should add a couple of things I hear whispers on, since this particular site is predicated on hockey rumors, specifically trades.

Mez and Ben are on our blue line for a reason. Don't call it tanking, consider it strategic implementation to accomplish an objective. Them's big words for "McDavid or Eichel".
And on that subject, while McDavid was brought to Buffalo via the hosted Otters games and the Harbor Center opening, that was no coincidence. I realize the fans are a smart bunch, but the fan base should really connect the dots.
Tim Murrary and company fully expect McDavid to be hear opening night next season, just thought I'd give you all a little good news. And while that sounds good, the Sabres are hedging their bets, in the past month, over 20 of the Sabres NHL and Amateur scouts have attended multiple Eichel games.

Expect 1 of the 2 here in Buffalo next season, hence why Mez and Ben keep seeing ice time and why Armia, Grigs, Pysyk and some others in Rochester won't.

There is a strategy in play here, it's a chess game the likes of which hasn't been seen by the NHL in a long time. Some NHL GM's and owners became so concerned about the Sabres strategy, set by Pegula himself (and I know that to be a fact, his exact words to Black and Sawyer was "tear it down, build it from scratch), that they actually changed the rules of the NHL draft in an effort to stem the tide of that strategy.
There were real owner battles over implementing the 16 rules this coming season, ultimately Jacobs sided with Pegula.

I know this to be fact, so take it at face value.

But in the end, the Buffalo Sabres fan base should be very pleased with this strategy. Short term pain for long term gain.

I normally don't chime in on projecting the success of such strategies, but, in this case, other teams are afraid, very afraid, of what the Sabres are about to become, and that to, is fact.
Other fan bases can ignore this all they like, but the writing is on the wall for the NHL from 2019/2020 to 2025 and beyond, a possible Buffalo Sabres Dynasty is in the making. And that, from multiple insiders, not my words.

Once again, enjoy the holiday week.
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