why does everyone blame the media? Do the New York Yankees, Manchester United, Montreal Canadiens etc... not have large media contingent.

Yet they have one a few times in the last 47 years

Yes. It is because of those guys.

Everyone time dion fumbles a puck. gives up on a play . gets beat to the net by smaller players. Its because of those guys.
- Lee Denault

name 1 defensemen in NHL existence to have never done any of those things?

good one

Let's get one thing perfectly straight, Leafsman:

I grabbed a frozen lunch out of the freezer today because I didn't have enough bread to make me and the kids sandwiches.

Stupid lunch was something like 190 calories - and I just ripped off 10k on the treadmill.

So don't come at me with your "let's be logical" or "Wedgie, tone it down" or "Quit sending my wife pictures of you in your Speedo" - I'm still hungry, and that's making me angry.

Got it, tough guy?
- Atomic Wedgie

And again, I'm not plural, no S.

Alfie retiring.

End of an era....thank god.

His game has gone straight down since she came into his life, she mellowed him out. Made him soft. I want the Pissed off Dion, or let him go..
- bixll

Except on the golf course.

Or the bar at the golf course.

Either way...

The day the players are lined up to ask reporters the same stupid question daily - and have the audacity to complain it took them 10 minutes to open the dressing room after practice - I'll buy your theory. It is disrespectful to throw your jersey on the ice and every player should be pissed off fans are doing it. Period. The same media who complain Phil doesn't talk enough are now complaining about what he says? Does anyone else see the lunacy in that? Seriously. Clinically nuts.

These media members aren't the story - they don't make up the story - they report what happens. That's called journalism. They're not "owed" anything.
- Deeps27

Very well said.

I think the media has changed. It is just the natural progression of instant 24 hour news.

We also hate other leaf fans so it works for us.
- Yeti1181

i just don't get that attitude. it's like the guy who let's his woman walk all over him.

how can you applaud someone for snubbing you? you're a die hard fan of the team and live and die with them. so they snub you, and you say thank you?
- DoubleDown

I don't pay to watch them salute their sticks to me after a game - I pay to watch them play 60 minutes of hockey. They could all grab their crotch for all I care skating off the ice as long as they got 2 pts and played entertaining hockey.

He's been very good for us but the retaining salary is piss off, I imagine it had to do with Gunner going for surgery though.
- Yeti1181

I haven't seen many Blues games. But I assume Carl is steady. The hip was obviously bugging him. He just got SLLOOOWWW out of nowhere.

how can you applaud someone for snubbing you? you're a die hard fan of the team and live and die with them. so they snub you, and you say thank you?
- DoubleDown

Jesus - the fans don't care about a stick salute at the end of the game. They were happy to see them play hard and win a game they were supposed go lose

Is 18 minutes bottom pairing?
- LeafMan

hes played 12 games, only 3 of those games he played over 18 mins

name 1 defensemen in NHL existence to have never done any of those things?

good one
- Lucas Neilson

You're kidding right?

Honestly?

Is this a real response?


So not only has Dion never done that... No defensmen ever has!


EDIT : I READ WRONG

Except on the golf course.

Or the bar at the golf course.

Either way...
- Atomic Wedgie

He was soft there 2, old younger Dion would have in the middle of it, and maybe earned the boys from CB's respect.

I haven't seen many Blues games. But I assume Carl is steady. The hip was obviously bugging him. He just got SLLOOOWWW out of nowhere.
- Lee Denault

And for some reason wouldn't go for surgery till this year.

Is Gunnarson a borderline NHLer?
- Lee Denault

hes the only NHL capable D man dion had.

i think we can all agree on that

name 1 defensemen in NHL existence to have never done any of those things?

good one
- Lucas Neilson

It's just about every shift Lucas, name me another #1 that makes as many mistakes as him, gives up on plays, have players go around him easily, makes one handed poke checks chasing players all around the D zone. We have 6 more years of this, or as I predicted, he will be bought out in three.

how can you applaud someone for snubbing you? you're a die hard fan of the team and live and die with them. so they snub you, and you say thank you?
- DoubleDown

Stockholm syndrome.

And for some reason wouldn't go for surgery till this year.
- Yeti1181

I like how Polak will rush the puck sometimes. Also he is a bastard on the ice.

I feel as a Leafs fan that my opinions are being represented by the people who call into Leafs radio talk shows after the game. Dear god...

I don't pay to watch them salute their sticks to me after a game - I pay to watch them play 60 minutes of hockey. They could all grab their crotch for all I care skating off the ice as long as they got 2 pts and played entertaining hockey.
- Deeps27

ok but NOW we're talking about 2 different things. i agree with everything you just said. but there's a difference between not doing the salute because you dont want to (no big deal IMO) and outwardly antagonizing your fan base.

Stockholm syndrome.
- Atomic Wedgie

Speaking of which - thank God poor "little Willie" Nylander is missing all of this

Stockholm syndrome.
- Atomic Wedgie

don't use your fancy educated thingies with me. i still haven't forgotten the things you've said to me this week.

It's just about every shift Lucas, name me another #1 that makes as many mistakes as him, gives up on plays, have players go around him easily, makes one handed poke checks chasing players all around the D zone. We have 6 more years of this, or as I predicted, he will be bought in three.
- LeafMan

You better ban be now Lou

I cant take that amount of ignorance.

If it was a collective decision then why was Franson heading to centre ice ready to salute the fans? Bunch of BS.
- LeafMan

Habit... might have had something else on his mind the previous couple of hours?

You're kidding right?

Honestly?

Is this a real response?


So not only has Dion never done that... No defensmen ever has!
- Lee Denault

its called making a mistake
being human

if you got the jist of it

im saying that nobody is perfect, so if a guy dangles dion, it happens like it happens to doughty and keith.

the best of the best make mistakes

now if you dont mind not responding like a jerk off next time that would be great