....I think Ive said 4 times now Franson doesn't belong in the AHL.. Yet you gave me the ol'

Are you trying to confuse me?
- Lee Denault

Franson is pretty brutal too

As a Canuck fan you should realize that fans revolt/riot/run amuck when their team loses, not when they fail to wave their sticks in the air after a game.
- Canada Cup

Again, this is fascinating. I am reading on Twitter about a "silent revolt". after the next game, no matter the win or loss, fans will just leave the building. They just want "to shake things up a little."

I must have imagined Gunnarsson for two years.
- LeafMan

guy plays 18 minutes a night on one of the top teams in the league.

Theres a whole lot of problems on this team.
- Yeti1181

Starts with the core and coach, problem is it is really hard to correct with their contracts.

And I said I didn't say ALL of his partners. The use of OR means one or the other.
- Yeti1181

Do you think Franson is a borderline NHLer

Yes or No.

That should clear this up.

100%

He isn't 'bad'. But He's not going to get this team to the promise land.

I'm not in the dressing room. But since 90% of the league hates him fro some reason I assume he is not captain material.

Someone on CLB said 'Everyone hates you' To which Dion replied ' I've heard that one before'
- Lee Denault

There's some good logic'ing

Franson is pretty brutal too
- Mr_Smokey

The whole (frank)ing team is.

guy plays 18 minutes a night on one of the top teams in the league.
- Pecafan Fan

Is 18 minutes bottom pairing?

There's some good logic'ing
- Canada Cup

guy plays 18 minutes a night on one of the top teams in the league.
- Pecafan Fan

borderline nhler

Is 18 minutes bottom pairing?
- LeafMan

He plays under 16 mins a night and yes it is in St. Louis.

I must have imagined Gunnarsson for two years.
- LeafMan

Did you imagine him playing anywhere above 3rd pairing on St. Louis?

Because he hasn't done that.

And he's the best example.

Is 18 minutes bottom pairing?
- LeafMan

Does it matter?

Because you need to be reliable during those 18 minutes, no?

Do you think Franson is a borderline NHLer

Yes or No.

That should clear this up.
- Lee Denault

No he's a bottom pairing power play specialist.

That's a slippery-slope.

One could, very easily, remove the word "media" and replace it with "players" and have an equally valid argument.

Just goes to show the level of trust and frustration. I mean, Kessel started this by insinuating that the current protest of throwing a jersey on the ice was this HUGE thing against the entire history of the Leafs, God and Country.

But I fear there will be a reckoning soon. Either firings or player trades made out of player demands or fan revolt.
- Beatle_john

The day the players are lined up to ask reporters the same stupid question daily - and have the audacity to complain it took them 10 minutes to open the dressing room after practice - I'll buy your theory. It is disrespectful to throw your jersey on the ice and every player should be pissed off fans are doing it. Period. The same media who complain Phil doesn't talk enough are now complaining about what he says? Does anyone else see the lunacy in that? Seriously. Clinically nuts.

These media members aren't the story - they don't make up the story - they report what happens. That's called journalism. They're not "owed" anything.

guy plays 18 minutes a night on one of the top teams in the league.
- Pecafan Fan

Weird how he averages 15:22 in ice time then.

He plays under 16 mins a night and yes it is in St. Louis.
- BlowMonkey

18:24 last night, 18:51 the game before.

Didn't check his splits, though.

Did you imagine him playing anywhere above 3rd pairing on St. Louis?

Because he hasn't done that.

And he's the best example.
- Atomic Wedgie

Those 2 D cores are NOT comparable.

Not in the slightest.

18:24 last night, 18:51 the game before.

Didn't check his splits, though.
- Pecafan Fan

don't worry I'm here to pick up your slack

No he's a bottom pairing power play specialist.
- Yeti1181

Is Gunnarson a borderline NHLer?

borderline nhler
- Lee Denault

There were nights Holzer, Ranger, Finger, Frogen etc played 18 mins +

Does it matter?

Because you need to be reliable during those 18 minutes, no?
- Pecafan Fan

18 minutes is more than bottom pairing is what I was getting at, plus why would they play him top 2 with the guys they have? It's a stupid argument to make. No PP time reduces his minutes as well.

No he's a bottom pairing power play specialist.
- Yeti1181

And in your opinion.

What is Dion?

No he's a bottom pairing power play specialist.
- Yeti1181

I also think someone is pranking him a few times a game. It's the only reasonable explanation as to why why he all of the sudden looks his inner ear is blown out randomly. Someone is slipping some clear tape on the blades.

There are moments where he just all of the sudden looks like he forgets how to stand on skates.

or....

BURN THE EQUIPMENT MANAGER!

18 minutes is more than bottom pairing is what I was getting at, plus why would they play him top 2 with the guys they have? It's a stupid argument to make.
- LeafMan

Thought he was ok last night.