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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:25 PM ET
His offense is good. I can already tell people are going to dislike him because he doesn't look like a guy who is giving max effort all the time. Thats just the way he plays though. He's giving effort. He just doesn't look like it sometimes. That's my opinion at least. Others my feel differently. I think he has a chance to make the team next year.

Stolarz is playing tonight and he's having his best game as a pro thus far. I think it's only his 4th game of the year.

- PhillySportsGuy


Thanks -- and that's good news on Stolarz. Not like there's a ton of goalie prospects in the pipeline
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 21 @ 8:26 PM ET
His offense is good. I can already tell people are going to dislike him because he doesn't look like a guy who is giving max effort all the time. Thats just the way he plays though. He's giving effort. He just doesn't look like it sometimes. That's my opinion at least. Others my feel differently. I think he has a chance to make the team next year.

Stolarz is playing tonight and he's having his best game as a pro thus far. I think it's only his 4th game of the year.

- PhillySportsGuy



Might as well package him in a trade now
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:27 PM ET
Thanks -- and that's good news on Stolarz. Not like there's a ton of goalie prospects in the pipeline
- AllInForFlyers


Stolarz is still a long way away though. Zepp is without question the top G in the organization thats not in the NHL.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:30 PM ET
Might as well package him in a trade now
- Just5


I actually like Hagg more than Morin at this point.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:35 PM ET
I actually like Hagg more than Morin at this point.
- PhillySportsGuy


wow. interesting. is that more of a reflection on how much you like hagg, or has morin fallen somewhat?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:40 PM ET
I still believe that Lecavalier can score, and can make plays with the puck. But he needs a player to get him the puck. Which we really don't have. The problem is that Lecavalier can't do much else. He was making an effort to get better defensively earlier in the year, but that has since waned. His blown coverage and losing his point man is inexcusable.
- MJL

Speaking of which, and maybe this is all the wingers but for me most notably Simmonds. Wayne Simmonds has been awful at covering the point! Awful! I think Umberger might be the only winger covering his point rather well. Raffl might be second best but he doesn't properly block shots...
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:42 PM ET
His problem is. He knows he has to produce offensively, that's why he signed here. He is cheating out there on the ice. You can see it. He doesn't have the wheels or the core strength. So whether it be cheating up the ice, not engaging in battles for being afraid of gettingout of position and not recovering, you name it Berube is so pissed he has to ice this guy.
- Just5

Really soft on the puck too. An opposing player can blow on him and he coughs up the puck.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:43 PM ET
wow. interesting. is that more of a reflection on how much you like hagg, or has morin fallen somewhat?
- stayinthefnnet


I think both will be solid players. I don't expect either to be franchise Dmen. Hagg is more of an all around talent who I believe will be able to play in any situation. I feel Morin has a fairly limited offensive upside. I don't think he'll hurt the team offensively, but I don't see him being more than a 25-30 point guy. If he can be a Dan Girardi type scorer, I would be very happy.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 21 @ 8:43 PM ET
wow. interesting. is that more of a reflection on how much you like hagg, or has morin fallen somewhat?
- stayinthefnnet


It has to be personal opinion because other then being out for a month injured Morin hasn't done anything to fall..

In the end I think most Flyers fans feel Sanheim will be the best of all of them.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:47 PM ET
It has to be personal opinion because other then being out for a month injured Morin hasn't done anything to fall..

In the end I think most Flyers fans feel Sanheim will be the best of all of them.

- opeth_pa


Based on what I've seen, Sanheim looks like the best chance to become a top pairing guy. He looks really good. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the Flyers next season.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 21 @ 8:50 PM ET
Speaking of which, and maybe this is all the wingers but for me most notably Simmonds. Wayne Simmonds has been awful at covering the point! Awful! I think Umberger might be the only winger covering his point rather well. Raffl might be second best but he doesn't properly block shots...
- SuperSchennBros


Yes. I get scared when he's out there in space in our d end away from the play.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 21 @ 9:01 PM ET
One Ex-Flyer doing another ex-Flyer dirty

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:06 PM ET
One Ex-Flyer doing another ex-Flyer dirty


- Jsaquella

Good thing we moved Bob when we did...
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:10 PM ET
I actually like Hagg more than Morin at this point.
- PhillySportsGuy


why is that? nothing hagg did during camp stood out to me - i literally remember nothing of watching him play. i know bill is high on his overall game, but is critical of his passiveness.

overall, i was impressed by morin - his skating, hitting, and defending along the wall the around the net, making plays to get the puck out. sure he made some mistakes, but the good far outweighed the bad imo.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:12 PM ET
One Ex-Flyer doing another ex-Flyer dirty


- Jsaquella


i'm watching this game and it's making me dizzy. bob, hartnell, gagne, seidenberg.

and now it's tied. so often a bad goal leads to a blown lead.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:12 PM ET
and now boston is up 3-2.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 21 @ 9:13 PM ET
i'm watching this game and it's making me dizzy. bob, hartnell, gagne, seidenberg.

and now it's tied. so often a bad goal leads to a blown lead.

- hammarby31


Yeah I stopped watching soon after the goal. Hanging with the kids for a bit, now they are brushing teeth
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:13 PM ET
Rinaldo 2.0 on the NHL network at 10
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 21 @ 9:14 PM ET
Rinaldo 2.0 on the NHL network at 10
- ob18


Great, there's an excuse to go to bed early
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:14 PM ET
His offense is good. I can already tell people are going to dislike him because he doesn't look like a guy who is giving max effort all the time. Thats just the way he plays though. He's giving effort. He just doesn't look like it sometimes. That's my opinion at least. Others my feel differently. I think he has a chance to make the team next year.

Stolarz is playing tonight and he's having his best game as a pro thus far. I think it's only his 4th game of the year.

- PhillySportsGuy


hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:15 PM ET
and now boston is up 3-2.
- hammarby31


and now it's tied again.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 21 @ 9:15 PM ET
and now boston is up 3-2.
- hammarby31


Jesus...might as well just but trash cans in the nets
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:18 PM ET
Jesus...might as well just but trash cans in the nets
- Jsaquella


bob's had no chance on either of the 2nd and 3rd goals.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:19 PM ET
why is that? nothing hagg did during camp stood out to me - i literally remember nothing of watching him play. i know bill is high on his overall game, but is critical of his passiveness.

overall, i was impressed by morin - his skating, hitting, and defending along the wall the around the net, making plays to get the puck out. sure he made some mistakes, but the good far outweighed the bad imo.

- hammarby31


I like them both. It's really not one guy being better than the other right now. Morin hasn't even really played this year. It's more just personal preference for the type of defenseman I'd value more. I like Hagg's all around game and I prefer two-way dmen over defensive defenseman.

I'm happy we have both though. I think Morin can be a very good player too.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 21 @ 9:20 PM ET
bob's had no chance on either of the 2nd and 3rd goals.
- hammarby31


Nope.
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