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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:11 AM ET
With and without Schenn, the Flyers have been near the top of the league in PK for multiple years leading into this one. Their struggles in the three games he was out had nothing to do with him not being there. That's not to say he is not a good PKer and valuable to have in that rotation, because he is.
- bmeltzer


It just seemed they were completely brutal after he went down. He's not a god on the PK, but he does block some shots and it seemed to me the PK was tentative when he was out. So in your assessment were they simply not working hard enough/not clearing the zone when they had a chance?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 21 @ 8:12 AM ET
You have to work out of a slump somehow. Its not like your Rangers are playing all that great either. Even with the "King" in net
- GOA88

We're purposely trying to get the 8 seed so we have the toughest road to the cup. We thrive on adversity.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:12 AM ET
Moral victories are for failures
- rangerdanger94


Was losing in the SCF a moral victory for the Rangers?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 21 @ 8:13 AM ET
Was losing in the SCF a moral victory for the Rangers?
- Hextall271

It was motivation
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:13 AM ET
Just so you guys are aware the less talented panthers won last night and are now 3 points ahead of you guys with 1 less game played
- rangerdanger94


And they have a better Points Percentage than your group of underachievers - .559 to .526. Should I go troll the Rangers thread with that information?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:13 AM ET
We're purposely trying to get the 8 seed so we have the toughest road to the cup. We thrive on adversity.
- rangerdanger94


Doesn't seem to me that the Rangers are world beaters this year, but I'm glad you're having fun trolling.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 21 @ 8:14 AM ET
And they have a better Points Percentage than your group of underachievers - .559 to .526. Should I go troll the Rangers thread with that information?
- Feanor

Get in line.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:14 AM ET
I feel Nick Schultz has been a player who has been under the radar.
IMO he has been the Flyers best Dman all year. He just goes out and plays a solid conservative game. ( please watch him AMac)
Colaiacovo has also been solid during his time. I will give Hextall full props for the pick up of these two along with MDZ. However we still need some kind of shakeup on this team
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:15 AM ET
You have to work out of a slump somehow. Its not like your Rangers are playing all that great either. Even with the "King" in net
- GOA88


$8.5 million for a .910 SV%.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 21 @ 8:15 AM ET
It was motivation
- rangerdanger94


So motivated that they're a .500 team so far.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 21 @ 8:16 AM ET
And they have a better Points Percentage than your group of underachievers - .559 to .526. Should I go troll the Rangers thread with that information?
- Feanor

I never claimed we are more talented than the panthers
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 21 @ 8:17 AM ET
So motivated that they're a .500 team so far.
- Jsaquella

We're a 2nd half team
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 21 @ 8:17 AM ET
$8.5 million for a .910 SV%.
- Feanor

He is the best goalie in the league and thats not debatable
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:17 AM ET
Yeah, I'm sure the Kings wish they had him instead of Quick. Go back to your own blog before you embarrass yourself even more.

This play wasn't so much a glaring breakdown by the penalty killers


I thought it was pretty bad. They ended up with both forwards on the right side because VandeVelde didn't rotate over to the left as Umberger pressured the puck.

And why did VdV get more PK time than the superior Bellemare?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:17 AM ET
Moral victories are for failures
- rangerdanger94

no action in the Rangers blob?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 21 @ 8:19 AM ET
We're a 2nd half team
- rangerdanger94

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 21 @ 8:20 AM ET
I liked that Rinaldo tried to come out and set a tone. ALso i have liked how he has been playing and not taking penalties. Also he seems to be doing well on PK.

More and more I am thinking that maybe moving Coburn might not be a bad idea. I don't think our defense is so much better with him then withuut and he might be a valuable asset to a team looking for defense.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:20 AM ET
I never claimed we are more talented than the panthers
- rangerdanger94

the Panthers are good...my 2nd favorite team
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:20 AM ET
He is the best goalie in the league and thats not debatable
- rangerdanger94


Jonathan Quick and his two stanley cup championships say hi. Before last season Hank hadn't made it to the final dance.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:21 AM ET


I thought it was pretty bad. They ended up with both forwards on the right side because VandeVelde didn't rotate over to the left as Umberger pressured the puck.

And why did VdV get more PK time than the superior Bellemare?

- Feanor


I'm not sure what the rotation is supposed to be there, when the forwards get in a 1-1 tandem there. If Umberger is supposed to follow the puck over with Vandevelde rotating to the weak side. Or if Umberger should drop back and switch with Vandevelde on the puck.
KaKa_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2014

Nov 21 @ 8:21 AM ET
Yeah, I'm sure the Kings wish they had him instead of Quick. Go back to your own blog before you embarrass yourself even more.



I thought it was pretty bad. They ended up with both forwards on the right side because VandeVelde didn't rotate over to the left as Umberger pressured the puck.

And why did VdV get more PK time than the superior Bellemare?

- Feanor


78 was in the box for 2 min, that may have done it?
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:22 AM ET
He is the best goalie in the league and thats not debatable
- rangerdanger94

It absolutely is. Quick is better. Hands down.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:22 AM ET
I liked that Rinaldo tried to come out and set a tone. ALso i have liked how he has been playing and not taking penalties. Also he seems to be doing well on PK.

More and more I am thinking that maybe moving Coburn might not be a bad idea. I don't think our defense is so much better with him then withuut and he might be a valuable asset to a team looking for defense.

- J35Bacher


Let's have a larger sample size before coming to that conclusion. Get Del Zotto back and have every defenseman in the right role. Coburn played a solid game last night.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:22 AM ET
I never claimed we are more talented than the panthers
- rangerdanger94


No team is more talented than the Panthers.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:22 AM ET
I have to question the decision to put 2 dmen, one with a sore shoulder and one playing his first game in weeks on the ice protecting a lead in the last minute of a game. I also have to question the decision to have Grossmann on the ice with the top line with under 7 minutes left in a game you are trailing.

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