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znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Nov 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
Nino, Perron, Tlutsy are the 3 I am most interested in. Cheap, established, lowest cap coming back of just about any name thrown out there. Looking at the list of names today, Cole, Semin, Yak, Eberle, Kessel, Jags....no to all.
- sammy87


I agree with those 3. Maybe even add Ty rattie, but other than that who knows. It would take a lot to grab most of those guys and it just doesn't make sense.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Nov 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
Creative. But I'd want Carolina to retain salary to make it an even swap cap wise.

and even at that.. still too much term on Semins deal, especially as bad as hes looked this year, for my taste

- YouMeAndDupuis9

If they could at least retain $1-1.5M I'd do this deal. I've already posted here and Semin has B.Ryan like numbers. A little better numbers actually....and I'm talking about +/- as well.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 20 @ 3:20 PM ET
If they could at least retain $1-1.5M I'd do this deal. I've already posted here and Semin has B.Ryan like numbers. A little better numbers actually....and I'm talking about +/- as well.
- Barnaby36


Past results are not a guarentee of future results

I actually wanted to prusue him when he was a free agent (not at $7M of course) but he was a healthy scratch in CAROLINA this year. Gotta let that sink in and then add a long term contract the equivalent of Letang's...
PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

Nov 20 @ 3:22 PM ET
The hawks would move Hossa in a second if they could move that contract. That will be an albatross in the next year or two. He is already starting to slow down and his cap hit will continue to count against their cap whether he retires or not.
- mw630

It was not an over 35 contract, so I do not believe it will count against their cap if he retires. That was the beauty(bullpoop) of that contract, the cap hit will be high, but his actual salary might be low enough where he just walks away and retires and then Chicago is out of the contract. He will only be getting paid $1 Million per year the last 4 years, so if he slows down enough and doesn't feel like playing is worth the $1 Million, and who knows he might be able to get more than that in Europe, he will retire.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Nov 20 @ 3:24 PM ET
It was not an over 35 contract, so I do not believe it will count against their cap if he retires. That was the beauty(bullpoop) of that contract, the cap hit will be high, but his actual salary might be low enough where he just walks away and retires and then Chicago is out of the contract. He will only be getting paid $1 Million per year the last 4 years, so if he slows down enough and doesn't feel like playing is worth the $1 Million, and who knows he might be able to get more than that in Europe, he will retire.
- PensFan1103


Nope

If he retired, The Cap Recapture is what would get them, an example, if he retired after 2 more seasons, they would have a Cap hit of 18.9 million spread over the remaining 6 years of the original deal

It's the "Luongo Rule" They'd have been paying him 7.9 million salary with a 5.2 million cap hit for 7 years

that 2.7 per they saved has to be accounted for via cap hit

If they traded him tomorrow, they'd still be responsible for 5 years of 2.7 million if he retired early...
PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

Nov 20 @ 3:30 PM ET
Nope

If he retired, The Cap Recapture is what would get them, an example, if he retired after 2 more seasons, they would have a Cap hit of 18.9 million spread over the remaining 6 years of the original deal

It's the "Luongo Rule" They'd have been paying him 7.9 million salary with a 5.2 million cap hit for 7 years

that 2.7 per they saved has to be accounted for via cap hit

If they traded him tomorrow, they'd still be responsible for 5 years of 2.7 million if he retired early...

- TheGame316

Yeah, I just saw your other post. Forgot about the Cap Recapture.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Nov 20 @ 3:37 PM ET
At least can we call up megna?
Id_Puck_Me
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: State College, PA
Joined: 07.23.2014

Nov 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
At least can we call up megna?
- usethe1-2-2


The Pens roundup said they won't be calling anyone up within the next few days unfortunately.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Nov 20 @ 3:49 PM ET
The Pens roundup said they won't be calling anyone up within the next few days unfortunately.
- Id_Puck_Me


Yah I know, I'm just impatient. I would like to see some roster movement here. Watching sill is just arduous at this point. It takes a lot out of me not to punch someone when he takes the ice.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 20 @ 3:55 PM ET
If they could at least retain $1-1.5M I'd do this deal. I've already posted here and Semin has B.Ryan like numbers. A little better numbers actually....and I'm talking about +/- as well.
- Barnaby36


0g, 5A 14 games......yeah sign me up for $7mil.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 20 @ 3:59 PM ET
harumph
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 20 @ 4:00 PM ET
0g, 5A 14 games......yeah sign me up for $7mil.
- sammy87


Pass on Semin.

SOFF player, especially in the playoffs.
Pens8729
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NF
Joined: 11.05.2013

Nov 20 @ 4:01 PM ET
Mikkel Boedker. 1 year left at 2.55M and then he's an RFA. Arizona likely won't want to pay him very much. He'd be a great fit with either Sid or Geno. (Probobly Geno because he's a left handed shot) If he can put up good numbers in Arizona, imagine what he could do in Pittsburgh!
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 20 @ 4:03 PM ET
Mikkel Boedker. 1 year left at 2.55M and then he's an RFA. Arizona likely won't want to pay him very much. He'd be a great fit with either Sid or Geno. (Probobly Geno because he's a left handed shot) If he can put up good numbers in Arizona, imagine what he could do in Pittsburgh!

- Pens8729




I like this idea, a lot actually.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Nov 20 @ 4:04 PM ET
Mikkel Boedker. 1 year left at 2.55M and then he's an RFA. Arizona likely won't want to pay him very much. He'd be a great fit with either Sid or Geno. (Probobly Geno because he's a left handed shot) If he can put up good numbers in Arizona, imagine what he could do in Pittsburgh!

- Pens8729


It would take a lot to get him. He is one of their few producers. I wouldn't be shocked if they asked for a top level prospect and a 1st just to start the conversation.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 20 @ 4:11 PM ET
It would take a lot to get him. He is one of their few producers. I wouldn't be shocked if they asked for a top level prospect and a 1st just to start the conversation.
- usethe1-2-2


Yeah, he won't be cheap, but I like him.

Phoenix will likely resign him. With a tight budget you can sign your own RFA cheaper than trying to replace that production through free agency.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 20 @ 4:12 PM ET
Mikkel Boedker. 1 year left at 2.55M and then he's an RFA. Arizona likely won't want to pay him very much. He'd be a great fit with either Sid or Geno. (Probobly Geno because he's a left handed shot) If he can put up good numbers in Arizona, imagine what he could do in Pittsburgh!

- Pens8729


One of those guys I think is completely ideal in our top 6. But theres a reason I never bring him up... Arizona is not looking to move this guy in general, and if they did they would want more scoring. I dont think we are good trade partners. Otherwise, sign me up 100%.

edit - hes basically Grabner with better hands
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 20 @ 4:14 PM ET
It would take a lot to get him. He is one of their few producers. I wouldn't be shocked if they asked for a top level prospect and a 1st just to start the conversation.
- usethe1-2-2


To be honest, I am not opposed to giving up a 1st for someone young and ready to make an impact, has a good contract for multiple years. The 2015 Pens 1st will probably be a mid 20's pick that wont make an impact for 3 years? Or he could be another Esposito bust. I dont like giving up a first for an Iginla type deal.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 20 @ 4:18 PM ET
At least can we call up megna?
- usethe1-2-2


I think we all would like that, but I can see why they are in no hurry. The team is playing well, and without Dupuis they just beat the best team (point-wise) in the NHL, 4-0, in Montreal.

And Islander games have gotten chippy in the past, maybe the type of game that you want Sill around for (whatever that's actually worth). Maybe he can get Hamonic off the ice for 5 minutes or something.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Nov 20 @ 4:42 PM ET
At least can we call up megna?
- usethe1-2-2

worst comment of the day.
Id_Puck_Me
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: State College, PA
Joined: 07.23.2014

Nov 20 @ 4:48 PM ET
worst comment of the day.
- Grinder47


I feel like given his speed Megna could grow to be useful on the PK if he blocked shots. I'm of the mindset that given consistent time with the NHL club he could take Adams' spot as early as now.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Nov 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
I feel like given his speed Megna could grow to be useful on the PK if he blocked shots. I'm of the mindset that given consistent time with the NHL club he could take Adams' spot as early as now.
- Id_Puck_Me

Call the Pens coaching staff and ask them if they think bringing Megna up to take Adams spot on the PK is a good idea.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Nov 20 @ 4:55 PM ET
I believe that they are the catalyst for HIS shortcomings, but regardless they are still on MAF. HE should not have altered his game because of lack of support, but I guess that's just being human. Trying to over compensate for others shortcomings is still an error in judgment on his part.

F Starters

- nbartley9


He has always been a nervous Nellie even in his junior career. If he learns to handle the pressure as an adult good for him. He needs to learn how to relax in goal, he is pretty hyper.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Nov 20 @ 4:57 PM ET
worst comment of the day.
- Grinder47


Why? Bennett can move up and Megna could take his place on the third line, possibly. What else do you suggest?
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Nov 20 @ 5:03 PM ET
Why? Bennett can move up and Megna could take his place on the third line, possibly. What else do you suggest?
- powerhouse

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13-71-72
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You have Crosby and Kunitz playing together, also with a guy who once scored 24 goals and looked alright this season. Malkin gets our best winger like always so at least hes a little happy. Our third line is playing great and 2 good penalty killers on our 4th line which is also playing good. Adams 305 or somthing and counting. The team is 13 and 3. Everyone just wants changes for the sake of changes.
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