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rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 20 @ 11:58 AM ET
I think the best trade partner for the Pens right now is Dallas. They are struggling and they desperately need defensive help right now.
- cap1681


There is just not much there that's obtainable that I want. You're not getting the top guys, I'm not a huge Hemsky guy, and the rest are like a bunch of Blake Comeau's.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Nov 20 @ 12:00 PM ET
Sutter Martin to ahi for kesler and ahi 1st then make it 3 way trade matta bennet letang to Chicago for patty Kane 2nd line Kane kesler Malkin
- Palmer117


How do you do it? Gin and cough syrup? Bath salts? I'm really interested.
all-pgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.14.2014

Nov 20 @ 12:01 PM ET
Then take an asprin. Bennett is legit, has been legit, and is here to stay.
- usethe1-2-2

the only one that is taking aspirins is bennet. the dude is on the shelf more than he is on the ice. the only thing legit about him at this point is that he is injury prone.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 20 @ 12:01 PM ET
There is just not much there that's obtainable that I want. You're not getting the top guys, I'm not a huge Hemsky guy, and the rest are like a bunch of Blake Comeau's.
- rival22


Guy i like in their system is Brett Ritchie. Big, skilled winger that is NHL Ready.
all-pgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.14.2014

Nov 20 @ 12:05 PM ET
If you want to move BB because of his health and games missed, might as well trade 87, 71, 58, 7, 9, 3.
- sammy87

i would wait until BB actually contributed something before mentioning with those players
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 20 @ 12:05 PM ET
Sutter Martin to ahi for kesler and ahi 1st then make it 3 way trade matta bennet letang to Chicago for patty Kane 2nd line Kane kesler Malkin
- Palmer117


If you're gonna be a bear...
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Nov 20 @ 12:06 PM ET
How do you do it? Gin and cough syrup? Bath salts? I'm really interested.
- usethe1-2-2


Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 12:07 PM ET
Sutter Martin to ahi for kesler and ahi 1st then make it 3 way trade matta bennet letang to Chicago for patty Kane 2nd line Kane kesler Malkin
- Palmer117


Palmer strikes again!
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 20 @ 12:07 PM ET
Guy i like in their system is Brett Ritchie. Big, skilled winger that is NHL Ready.
- cap1681


Don't know much about their prospects, but by your description and after 30 seconds of google research, I'm in
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Nov 20 @ 12:09 PM ET
How do you do it? Gin and cough syrup? Bath salts? I'm really interested.
- usethe1-2-2


lol. My guess is NHL14 and enough Mountain Dew & Starbursts to give an elephant diabetes.
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 12:09 PM ET
Sutter Martin to ahi for kesler and ahi 1st then make it 3 way trade matta bennet letang to Chicago for patty Kane 2nd line Kane kesler Malkin
- Palmer117


This is Jeopardy fun!

How to wake up in a padded room?
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 20 @ 12:10 PM ET
Guy i like in their system is Brett Ritchie. Big, skilled winger that is NHL Ready.
- cap1681


Agree. If he was a left winger, he would be the perfect kind of player to target. But I'd still be happy with him for a Dumoulin based trade.
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 12:10 PM ET
Sutter Martin to ahi for kesler and ahi 1st then make it 3 way trade matta bennet letang to Chicago for patty Kane 2nd line Kane kesler Malkin
- Palmer117


How to tank in NHL 2015?
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 12:11 PM ET
Sutter Martin to ahi for kesler and ahi 1st then make it 3 way trade matta bennet letang to Chicago for patty Kane 2nd line Kane kesler Malkin
- Palmer117


What is turning off the salary cap?
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 12:12 PM ET
Sutter Martin to ahi for kesler and ahi 1st then make it 3 way trade matta bennet letang to Chicago for patty Kane 2nd line Kane kesler Malkin
- Palmer117


What is playing with six forwards...only?
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
i would wait until BB actually contributed something before mentioning with those players
- all-pgh


I'm not saying BB is as good as them at all, but he was suggesting moving BB solely based on his injury and health history.
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
Sutter Martin to ahi for kesler and ahi 1st then make it 3 way trade matta bennet letang to Chicago for patty Kane 2nd line Kane kesler Malkin
- Palmer117


What is drinking before noon?
Amanion
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 20 @ 12:15 PM ET
I doubted Duper coming back after his knee surgery, and was proven wrong. I hope that same thing happens with his latest ailment. Duper is a class act.

(Carry over post)

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, which works out very nicely for me because im wrong a hell of a lot; most recently Sutturd, and as long as he keeps playing the way he is I have no problem admitting that.


The MAF bashing specifically bothers me because, he was very obviously a victim of circumstance. Over playing shots and misplaying the puck, 2 glaringly obvious things that are a direct result of trying to do too much because he was getting little to no help. Flower is a very polarizing player and I honestly believe that it has nothing to do with his play. I don't care what kind of crap I get for saying this, but the people that don't like MAF, have made that decision because he is the most obvious person to blame for an underachieving hockey club. If anyone's stats should mean nothing its a goalies.


Here in Pittsburgh fans have some very easy "go to" scape goats, Baseball "management sucks, sell um to Cuban", Football " Quarterback sucks put in the back up", Hockey " Goalie sucks, start the back up". It has sadly been this way for a long time.

Watch the game, watch Flower's skill set, his athleticism and reflexes are unmatched. He will prove it this year, like he has in the past; under a real hockey coach; that employs a real system, that supports his net minder.

F Cuban

- nbartley9


I have watched the game. I am a season ticket holder dating back to pre-crosby. I know the game. And one thing I also know, is that Marc Andre Fleury has an issue with stopping routine shots. I don't know why he has this particular issue, but what I know is that he tends to give up the most deflating goal at the worst possible time. In a sport where games are often decided by 1 goal, surrendering this type of goal is brutal.
We arent questioning his athleticism, skill set, etc. We are questioning his results. Soft goals--those directly attributed to him misplaying a puck whether behind the net or letting it squirt between his arm and side-- are HIS fault and no one elses. They are the reason the "fleury-bashers" are fired up with him.

He is so polarizing because those who support Fleury never admit ANY of his shortcomings and immediately attack those who are not fans of Fleury. You ask your goaltender to make all of the routine saves. Elite goalies then also make some ridiculous saves on breakaways, one timers, etc that no one can reasonably expect. Fleury is maddening because he makes these saves then 5 minutes later, allows something to trickle between his pads and go in. That in many cases is more crushing than if the opponent had just scored on the breakaway in the first place
Id_Puck_Me
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: State College, PA
Joined: 07.23.2014

Nov 20 @ 12:15 PM ET
I feel like another interesting route to explore would just be to sign both Loktionov and Penner for 1 year deals with the cap space we get from putting Duper on LTIR. I feel like Loktionov could spend time in the top 6 and Penner is probably a lateral move at worst from Sill. Obviously there are some question marks there though. I just feel like that may boost our offensive depth for the time being and lets us keep more young D men that we can eventually phase in after this year (I've jumped on the "let's let PM play out his contract" train). Just a thought though.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Nov 20 @ 12:16 PM ET
the only one that is taking aspirins is bennet. the dude is on the shelf more than he is on the ice. the only thing legit about him at this point is that he is injury prone.
- all-pgh


His skill set is legit. His vision and on ice awareness is legit. He is a top six talent in every way.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 20 @ 12:16 PM ET
I'm not saying BB is as good as them at all, but he was suggesting moving BB solely based on his injury and health history.
- sammy87


no, no I wasn't. I was suggesting moving Beau Bennett on the fact that he has potential to be good, but has injury history, and it's not a headache i want to deal with, and would much rather have one of the leagues best snipers on Geno/Sid's wing than an oft injured winger that hasn't proven anything yet.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 20 @ 12:21 PM ET
I feel like another interesting route to explore would just be to sign both Loktionov and Penner for 1 year deals with the cap space we get from putting Duper on LTIR. I feel like Loktionov could spend time in the top 6 and Penner is probably a lateral move at worst from Sill. Obviously there are some question marks there though. I just feel like that may boost our offensive depth for the time being and lets us keep more young D men that we can eventually phase in after this year (I've jumped on the "let's let PM play out his contract" train). Just a thought though.
- Id_Puck_Me


Not good enough to be an upgrade. Are we trying to "replace" Dupuis or possibly upgrade with the newfound cap space? I'd say bring in Loktionov as a low risk move and then make a deal for a good NHL ready prospect.
sfrizz
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.05.2010

Nov 20 @ 12:25 PM ET
What would it take to get
Moulson out of Buff?
Skinner out of Carolina (not sure about his health)
Dubinskey out of Columbus (again health)
A long shot might be Huberdeau from Fla

nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Nov 20 @ 12:30 PM ET
I have watched the game. I am a season ticket holder dating back to pre-crosby. I know the game. And one thing I also know, is that Marc Andre Fleury has an issue with stopping routine shots. I don't know why he has this particular issue, but what I know is that he tends to give up the most deflating goal at the worst possible time. In a sport where games are often decided by 1 goal, surrendering this type of goal is brutal.
We arent questioning his athleticism, skill set, etc. We are questioning his results. Soft goals--those directly attributed to him misplaying a puck whether behind the net or letting it squirt between his arm and side-- are HIS fault and no one elses. They are the reason the "fleury-bashers" are fired up with him.

He is so polarizing because those who support Fleury never admit ANY of his shortcomings and immediately attack those who are not fans of Fleury. You ask your goaltender to make all of the routine saves. Elite goalies then also make some ridiculous saves on breakaways, one timers, etc that no one can reasonably expect. Fleury is maddening because he makes these saves then 5 minutes later, allows something to trickle between his pads and go in. That in many cases is more crushing than if the opponent had just scored on the breakaway in the first place

- Amanion

I believe I stated exactly what his short comings are, over playing shots and not being able to handle the puck at all. MAF doesn't let in anymore soft goals than any other tender. I specifically remember Marty letting in a few leakers in his prime against Wayne Primeau, whom we all know sucks. It happens to even the best goalie in the history of the game. Roy was ran out of MTL, Flyers style because of letting in a few leakers at a bad time. It happens, that's why you have got to assess a goalie on skill, not stats. MAF is a top 5 netminder in this league, and he should have the full support of this fan base. But he doesn't because people don't like his teeth.


F Teeth
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 20 @ 12:30 PM ET
On twitter, Toperzer suggested that with the Cap problems the Blackhawks have, that Saad may be available, due to him looking for a new contract this summer.
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