Dupuis at practice with GMJR. I wonder if he will become the 3rd assistant GM by seasons end.

You have 5 players on that list that are top six. Five players that are basically 4th liners, and an unproven Sundqvist. That would be a joke of a team in the playoffs.
- usethe1-2-2

The idea is to get deeper. Losing Dupes and then trading Sutter and BB for Kessel makes the team extremely shallow.

interesting. I was just looking at the Hockeys Future and they had Harrington ranked with a higher ceiling. But both seem like solid guys to have in your system. At the very least are going to be reliable 2nd pairing Top 4 Dmen.

Not sure what they are going to do for ROR. I think if they cant extend him they shop him in the same manner that J Staal was at the draft. Trade based on having him signing a long term extension with a new team.
- DDM-Coga

You see more of him than us, but my fear with ROR is that after next season, he's going to 100% follow the money and be gone. As good as he is, I think we'd only have him for this season, and maybe next if we don't find ourselves in the same situation with shopping him at the draft.

I just don't like trading a likely top 4 defensive player who you'd control for 5 years for one year of a really good Ryan O'Reilly.

As much as I like him, I just don't have a strong appetite for going after him.

interesting. I was just looking at the Hockeys Future and they had Harrington ranked with a higher ceiling. But both seem like solid guys to have in your system. At the very least are going to be reliable 2nd pairing Top 4 Dmen.

Not sure what they are going to do for ROR. I think if they cant extend him they shop him in the same manner that J Staal was at the draft. Trade based on having him signing a long term extension with a new team.
- DDM-Coga

Harrington is a steady defensive dman who has underrated offensive skills and skating ability. He's also a natural leader and will wear an 'A' at some point if he stays with the pens. His all around game is good and just keeps improving. The only reason I'm ok with trading pouliot is because of letang and maatta.

IMO, despres is expendable. Harrington will replace him defensively, and bortuzzo brings just as much grit and way more speed.

The idea is to get deeper. Losing Dupes and then trading Sutter and BB for Kessel makes the team extremely shallow.
- sammy87

Technically Beau Bennett has never really been on the team in my mind.. and trading him removes a headache of an soft player. Sutter is definitely expendable with Spaling and Goc around.. just my opinion though.

Harrington is a steady defensive dman who has underrated offensive skills and skating ability. He's also a natural leader and will wear an 'A' at some point if he stays with the pens. His all around game is good and just keeps improving. The only reason I'm ok with trading pouliot is because of letang and maatta.

IMO, despres is expendable. Harrington will replace him defensively, and bortuzzo brings just as much grit and way more speed.
- drummer829

Yeah, I see Despres getting moved this season before Harrington, Pouliot or even Martin.

Technically Beau Bennett has never really been on the team in my mind.. and trading him removes a headache of an soft player. Sutter is definitely expendable with Spaling and Goc around.. just my opinion though.
- j.boyd919

Sutter and Bennett single handedly beat the habs. If they keep clicking, that will be the 3rd line we've been missing for a while

Unless you guys feel like Letang can be moved since Pouliot is ready to take that role, I think you have a lot of options this summer. Value on the current D Core, and Value in the D Prospects. You can shuffle a lot of players around and still have a solid core.
- DDM-Coga

To me Letang is the #2 guy you dont move on this roster. When he is out, the team is much more noticeably bad. When 87 is out Malkin steps up big time. I dont pay attention to prospects because they are well just that. Who knows if they will be good or not. I would shy away from ROR due to his current contract. Basically a rental with a n extra year.

Martin or Ehroff will not be on the team next year, that frees up about 5mil.

Sutter and Bennett single handedly beat the habs. If they keep clicking, that will be the 3rd line we've been missing for a while
- drummer829

I agree, if they keep clicking, it will be nice, but the question to me is, does Bennett stay healthy? That is a huge question in my mind.

Technically Beau Bennett has never really been on the team in my mind.. and trading him removes a headache of an soft player. Sutter is definitely expendable with Spaling and Goc around.. just my opinion though.
- j.boyd919

Then take an asprin. Bennett is legit, has been legit, and is here to stay.

You see more of him than us, but my fear with ROR is that after next season, he's going to 100% follow the money and be gone. As good as he is, I think we'd only have him for this season, and maybe next if we don't find ourselves in the same situation with shopping him at the draft.

I just don't like trading a likely top 4 defensive player who you'd control for 5 years for one year of a really good Ryan O'Reilly.

As much as I like him, I just don't have a strong appetite for going after him.
- rival22

Hes pretty good, and worth the cash, but if you can afford him you keep him. I just don't know how much he wants to be on the Avs long term and they cant take the risk of letting him walk for nothing.

With him you get what you pay for and he just wants to be paid fairly for his skill set, I don't think hes too interested in taking the big home town discounts.

Not too many teams can just hang over a Top 4 dman, especially for him. So I think the market for a ROR trade is really thin. If they do move him, its not going to be for his full value in a return.

Yeah, I see Despres getting moved this season before Harrington, Pouliot or even Martin.
- rival22

IF despres was moved, I really think a 3rd pair of borts and Harrington would be a solid pairing. I guess scuderi would have to be moved as well.

I agree, if they keep clicking, it will be nice, but the question to me is, does Bennett stay healthy? That is a huge question in my mind.
- j.boyd919

If you want to move BB because of his health and games missed, might as well trade 87, 71, 58, 7, 9, 3.

Hes pretty good, and worth the cash, but if you can afford him you keep him. I just don't know how much he wants to be on the Avs long term and they cant take the risk of letting him walk for nothing.

With him you get what you pay for and he just wants to be paid fairly for his skill set, I don't think hes too interested in taking the big home town discounts.

Not too many teams can just hang over a Top 4 dman, especially for him. So I think the market for a ROR trade is really thin. If they do move him, its not going to be for his full value in a return.
- DDM-Coga

Yeah, unless the cap really jumps (which it doesn't look like it will), with two $8+/$9+ mil centers, and a $7+ mil d-man, I think that you have to stick to $4-$5 mil wingers at the most in order to have some sort of depth up front.

Hes pretty good, and worth the cash, but if you can afford him you keep him. I just don't know how much he wants to be on the Avs long term and they cant take the risk of letting him walk for nothing.

With him you get what you pay for and he just wants to be paid fairly for his skill set, I don't think hes too interested in taking the big home town discounts.

Not too many teams can just hang over a Top 4 dman, especially for him. So I think the market for a ROR trade is really thin. If they do move him, its not going to be for his full value in a return.
- DDM-Coga

I've always liked ROR, and he's still very young. He brings a responsible defensive game, as well as a tough offensive game. A very good 2 way player. I'd love for the pens to grab him, but like someone else mentioned his contract length and cap hit isn't appealing. With the pens so close to the ceiling, it would be tough to make room for him. Also I feel it would be tough to keep him in Pitt since other teams could offer much more

Then take an asprin. Bennett is legit, has been legit, and is here to stay.
- usethe1-2-2

I hope so, but we'll see...

Yeah, unless the cap really jumps (which it doesn't look like it will), with two $8+/$9+ mil centers, and a $7+ mil d-man, I think that you have to stick to $4-$5 mil wingers at the most in order to have some sort of depth up front.
- rival22

Guys like Perron, McGinn, Foligno all jump out to me as guys that could be future Pens based on their style of play and potential lower end cap hits.

I've always liked ROR, and he's still very young. He brings a responsible defensive game, as well as a tough offensive game. A very good 2 way player. I'd love for the pens to grab him, but like someone else mentioned his contract length and cap hit isn't appealing. With the pens so close to the ceiling, it would be tough to make room for him. Also I feel it would be tough to keep him in Pitt since other teams could offer much more
- drummer829

I just would hate to see him moved for a bum like Myers or something like that...that would be a sad day for me

Yeah, I see Despres getting moved this season before Harrington, Pouliot or even Martin.
- rival22

If you want to move BB because of his health and games missed, might as well trade 87, 71, 58, 7, 9, 3.
- sammy87

I disagree, 87, 71, 58, 3 are players you build a team around. Bennett is not.

Balls?!? Seriously?

I'd rather get a double than strike out.
- hardnosed

Haha touche. I guess just agree to disagree. I'd go for the homerun.

I think the best trade partner for the Pens right now is Dallas. They are struggling and they desperately need defensive help right now.

Dumoulin and a 2nd isn't bringing back Jurco or Rattie. Those teams want to get better, too. They're not going to blithely agree to what is convenient and expendable for the Penguins.
- hardnosed

I guess I didn't know you were the only one who has to agree for a proposal to be realistic.

You do realize both those players are expendable on their current teams and both teams could use D help? If we didn't have Pouliot and Harrington, Dumoulin would be a very highly talked about prospect for us. Same with Jurco and Rattie, they have a ton of people ahead of them.

Sutter Martin to ahi for kesler and ahi 1st then make it 3 way trade matta bennet letang to Chicago for patty Kane 2nd line Kane kesler Malkin

Are you suggesting that Dumoulin and Rattie are equal in value?
- hardnosed

They are pretty close, where have you been with the last blog? Plus I threw in a 2nd round pick, let's not forget that a 2nd is still a valuable addition.