AlfieisKing
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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Got me a little aroused on the bus on my way home from school - karlssens
If only I had that power with the Laaaydezzzz |
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Buy low !!
To Buffalo: F Shane Prince, F Eric Condra, conditional picks
To Ottawa: F Chris Stewart
To Edmonton: F Zack Smith, F Colin Greening, D Patrick Weircioch
To Ottawa: F David Perron
MacArthur - Turris - Chiasson
Perron - Zibanejad - Ryan
Michalek - Legwand - Stewart
Hoffman - Lazar - Stone - AlfieisKing
wouldn't do the first deal, as taking on stewarts salary all but guarantees that ottawa has no flexibility to make a move at the deadline (in terms of $$). If you're gonna spend extra money, make it for a good player. we're giving up 3 assets to get back a player who isn't as good as one of the guys going the other way (condra > stewart)
i'd do the 2nd deal in a second.....don't think oilers would though. they have plenty of d-men like wiercioch....they need a steady guy like methot. |
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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Paul Mac is coaching a team making $48.5M !!! (Methot out, Greening contract most out). The fact that their where they are, I think he's doing a fine job. Criticize some of his decisions, that's kool, but wow... he's a great coach |
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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wouldn't do the first deal, ......(condra > stewart)...
i'd do the 2nd deal in a second.....don't think oilers would though. they have plenty of d-men like wiercioch....they need a steady guy like methot. - sensarmy_11
Fair points but no way Stewart is worse than Condra. He's playing in Buffalo and needs a change of scenery. If we lose Prince (we have enough of those kinds of players and already some turbulence with that ride) and Condra (a UFA who won't be here next year) then I'd do it. Stewart played in STL with Perron.
I agree they'd want Methot --- most oilers fans agreed yday that Methot, Greening, and Smith was a DONE deal --- but giving Methot would be a last resort. And to me it'd be Methot + Greening in that case |
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Fjodor
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: "There is NOTHING more arrogant than the advanced stats proponents" Joined: 06.30.2013
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I guess short-term memory serves people well when they keep second-guessing MacLean.
I mean c'mon...Ryan did NOT look good in the first few games with 7 and 16. He anchored that line and they would have been targeted for destruction on a regular basis if MacLean had kept them together. Putting him with Legwand actually makes some sense, given the few minutes they've played together. Ryan will have better and more shot opportunities alongside a leftie.
Greening: well, he's been...."functional" (I'm not going to say anything bad about Greening at this point, because that topic was utterly exhausted last season). He's basically doing what he's expected to do once he gets the chance, and that's a fairly positive trait to look for in a young team that struggles with inconsistency.
And those of you who claim that MacLean is being bailed out by the netminders, I urge you to take a closer look. There's a HUGE difference in overall shot quality between last season and this one. H-U-G-E. Less high slot. Very few 2nd or 3rd opportunities (but not because of stellar rebound control). Same with one-timers or other shots that requires quick lateral movement. That's not goaltending wizardry, that's good coaching. And it should be acknowledged, because this Paulrus bashing is getting silly. |
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I guess short-term memory serves people well when they keep second-guessing MacLean.
I mean c'mon...Ryan did NOT look good in the first few games with 7 and 16. He anchored that line and they would have been targeted for destruction on a regular basis if MacLean had kept them together. Putting him with Legwand actually makes some sense, given the few minutes they've played together. Ryan will have better and more shot opportunities alongside a leftie.
Greening: well, he's been...."functional" (I'm not going to say anything bad about Greening at this point, because that topic was utterly exhausted last season). He's basically doing what he's expected to do once he gets the chance, and that's a fairly positive trait to look for in a young team that struggles with inconsistency.
And those of you who claim that MacLean is being bailed out by the netminders, I urge you to take a closer look. There's a HUGE difference in overall shot quality between last season and this one. H-U-G-E. Less high slot. Very few 2nd or 3rd opportunities (but not because of stellar rebound control). Same with one-timers or other shots that requires quick lateral movement. That's not goaltending wizardry, that's good coaching. And it should be acknowledged, because this Paulrus bashing is getting silly. - Fjodor
come on man, that "shot quality" argument is just silly. the leafs and their fans made the same argument all last season.
fact is, the sens have not won a game where their goalie hasn't been the best player on the ice. when the goaltending is even just average, they get blown out.
macleans system isn't the problem.....the problem is the way he handles the roster
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ottawa's attendance is actually really good this year. almost no ticket "giveaways", STH numbers are up, and the rink is near capacity almost every night....i think the numbers have them averaging about 96-97% of capacity, about 18.5K ish per game.
that's not bad - sensarmy_11
Given the on ice product and the location of the arena.. I'd say that's excellent. |
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If only I had that power with the Laaaydezzzz - AlfieisKing
haha don't we all! |
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Fjodor
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: "There is NOTHING more arrogant than the advanced stats proponents" Joined: 06.30.2013
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come on man, that "shot quality" argument is just silly. the leafs and their fans made the same argument all last season.
fact is, the sens have not won a game where their goalie hasn't been the best player on the ice. when the goaltending is even just average, they get blown out.
macleans system isn't the problem.....the problem is the way he handles the roster - sensarmy_11
Saying silly doesn't make it so.
Do your homework first: http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...the-shot-quality-project/.
I disagree with your always-best-on-ice argument, but that's at least debatable. I would say that four balanced lines (3rd periods!) and a tighter team without puck have been equally important.
I guess I'm not convinced that the problem is deployment. Last season I would agree that it was, to some extent (e.g. Cowen, Smith line TOI) but... Coach is stuck with this set of players. I don't see any quick fix in terms of moving Ryan here or there. |
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Fjodor
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: "There is NOTHING more arrogant than the advanced stats proponents" Joined: 06.30.2013
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Greening...
Ok, I'll shut up from now on. |
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Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB Joined: 01.23.2013
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Speculation down here was similar to the James Neal trade. With Hornquist being the main piece leaving the Predators. As you might expect, Spezza got a very nice welcome to Smashville with the Stars came in for their first appearance this season. Personally, I am glad Spezza chose Dallas. - im4preds
I like the peices the Sens got back in the trade..
Chaisson is looking pretty good in his first 14 games played with the Sens 4G 5A 9pts.
Alex Paul is tearing up the OHL.
That Dal 2nd round pick is also looking good cerrently sitting at 35th overall.
And Alex Guptill will most likely be a bust, but murray got rid of one the other way to Dallas in Ludwig Karlsson. |
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KarlKarlsson
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Squaresville, ON Joined: 02.12.2014
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jtf927
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 11.18.2014
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I like the peices the Sens got back in the trade..
Chaisson is looking pretty good in his first 14 games played with the Sens 4G 5A 9pts.
Alex Paul is tearing up the OHL.
That Dal 2nd round pick is also looking good cerrently sitting at 35th overall.
And Alex Guptill will most likely be a bust, but murray got rid of one the other way to Dallas in Ludwig Karlsson. - Erik6Karlsson5
we received good building pieces in the spezza trade. but it will be a few years still before we see those two up with the big team, and 4-5 years before we see their full impact. in the meantime, we definitely need some help on defence. the trade nyi made to acquire boychuk and leddy is what the sens needed/need. |
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Is it just me (probably not) but does the offensive drive and any possession for the sens just die when Neil gets on the ice? I'd much rather have Greening in the line up any night over Neil
Too bad Mac refuses to bench the obvious players that should be benched |
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Fjodor
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: "There is NOTHING more arrogant than the advanced stats proponents" Joined: 06.30.2013
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What a fantastic shift!!! |
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What a fantastic shift!!! - Fjodor
best shift michalek has had in probably 3 years. |
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Saying silly doesn't make it so.
Do your homework first: http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...the-shot-quality-project/.
I disagree with your always-best-on-ice argument, but that's at least debatable. I would say that four balanced lines (3rd periods!) and a tighter team without puck have been equally important.
I guess I'm not convinced that the problem is deployment. Last season I would agree that it was, to some extent (e.g. Cowen, Smith line TOI) but... Coach is stuck with this set of players. I don't see any quick fix in terms of moving Ryan here or there. - Fjodor
see....another win where our goalie bailed the team out. there were a poopload of "quality" chances against in that one |
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Mr_Clean
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Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB Joined: 08.09.2010
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see....another win where our goalie bailed the team out. there were a poopload of "quality" chances against in that one - sensarmy_11
Yeah... I only caught the third, but "score effects" seemed to be playing a pretty big effect...
Or was it score effects? I thought some players were just plain making bad decisions out there in the third period, in any case full value to Lehner for the win, and an important two points against a very tough opponent |
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Fjodor
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: "There is NOTHING more arrogant than the advanced stats proponents" Joined: 06.30.2013
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see....another win where our goalie bailed the team out. there were a poopload of "quality" chances against in that one - sensarmy_11
Sure, but there's a difference between bailing the team out and bailing the coach out. Turris (x2), MacArthur, Ryan, Greening, Michalek all missed golden opportunities. Corsi 5v5 close goes to Ottawa, against a really strong team. But no doubt you'll find a way to blame MacLean for another one of those wins he didn't deserve...
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david22
Ottawa Senators |
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Joined: 04.15.2008
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Karlsson hasn`t rushed the puck like that in a long time
Multiple times where he entered teh zone with ease.
But seriously, the shots agaisnt... |
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TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 05.07.2014
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Karlsson hasn`t rushed the puck like that in a long time
Multiple times where he entered teh zone with ease.
But seriously, the shots agaisnt... - david22
Are one of the most deceiving stats. |
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david22
Ottawa Senators |
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Joined: 04.15.2008
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Are one of the most deceiving stats. - TheCalSen
Lehern stood on his head multiple times. Seriously, without him this game could of become a blowout. |
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KarlKarlsson
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Squaresville, ON Joined: 02.12.2014
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Lehern stood on his head multiple times. Seriously, without (goaltending) this (season) could of become a blowout. - david22
Fixed |
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Mr_Clean
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Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB Joined: 08.09.2010
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Sure, but there's a difference between bailing the team out and bailing the coach out. Turris (x2), MacArthur, Ryan, Greening, Michalek all missed golden opportunities. Corsi 5v5 close goes to Ottawa, against a really strong team. But no doubt you'll find a way to blame MacLean for another one of those wins he didn't deserve...
- Fjodor
Yeah, it seemed a lot of players were making dumb plays/gripping the stick too tight.
Could partially be the coaching, but it'd be hard to argue the players had nothing to do with it.... |
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TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 05.07.2014
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Lehern stood on his head multiple times. Seriously, without him this game could of become a blowout. - david22
Disagree, they had good opportunities and so did Ottawa. They hit the post, so did Michalek. How many times did the Sens miss an empty net. Good game, as with any lead, a team starts to take the foot of the gas...Next. |
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