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Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Nov 19 @ 11:21 PM ET
1. I agree
2. batjester : #1 goalie would be a guy like Lehner. Doubt Sens would be trading him, but if the return was a top 6 forward, its possible

Marc Methot isn't a #1D...again he's pretty much Dan Hamhuis 5 years ago. He's a #2. He's a solid Dman. A lot of what I think Nurse will be.

Teamwork was the third thing? These names I'm giving I honestly believe would change the impact/culture of the team. They have a lot to give and are excellent PK/defensive players (maybe Greening is an exception but I think a change of teams could revive the power forward game he has)

Methot + Zibanejad would land Ebs. That I know for sure

- AlfieisKing


I just don't see Methot as a #2.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:21 PM ET
Holy fuk u guys finish pages quickly
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:22 PM ET
Dude...our 4th line is not a problem....
- Iggysbff


Who's doing well up front then?

Cuz all I saw was hendricks block a shot and play well on the PK...
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Nov 19 @ 11:23 PM ET
Methot will be close to 40 next season. Probably 30-40. But his defensive game is solid.

Oh and for those fans (the ones I knew would be here) -- I'm a oilers fan, whether their 30th or 1st. I just wish I got to watch them more so I knew exactly how valuable players were. Methot isn't going anywhere likely but he is in a contract year and Sens are in finical trouble. I hope they resign him (even though I don't want to pay him $5m) but apparently he'll get that and maybe more on the open market.

I honestly believe these are the right players to go to EDM. why do you think I'm here? To "sell" players. Lol. That would make sense if I wanted to fleece a team I didn't cheer for

- AlfieisKing


He's going to double his highest points total just because?
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:24 PM ET
I just don't see Methot as a #2.
- Dangles13


He is a solid Dman. Easily a top 4. Probably a true #3 on a cup winning team but played with Karlsson when he won the norris; we all know how 'well' EK plays D. But yea, offensively not Edler, Jay-Bo, or Phaneuf (other #2s left handed shots)
nanook82
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:24 PM ET
The 4th line has been the shut down line. They have been getting the tough assignments and handling them quite well. They are better defensively then Hall, Nuge and Ebs.
- abware

Yup sure. We're 28th overall..... you'd think we'd be out there trying to win the game with 9 mins to go.

Vans top line has over 20 points against us in 4 games so I guess any line would have given up that gwg.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:25 PM ET
He's going to double his highest points total just because?
- Dangles13


23 points in 75 games last year. I'd expect him to score about 10-12 more. that's about a 50% increase, and yes, I think he'll hit 30+ wherever he is.... 40 I don't think so
SPIDEROCKSTAR
Location: Ugh.... your sooooo lucky I'm banned... 9 more days and your gonna get it... - HouseArrest187, QC
Joined: 08.08.2010

Nov 19 @ 11:27 PM ET
Harding was available for free yesterday and Nestraisl is available for free... Just saying.
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Nov 19 @ 11:28 PM ET
Oh, and Justin Schultz is a really $hitty player.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Nov 19 @ 11:28 PM ET
23 points in 75 games last year. I'd expect him to score about 10-12 more. that's about a 50% increase, and yes, I think he'll hit 30+ wherever he is.... 40 I don't think so
- AlfieisKing


He averages 17 points a season in his career and he's 29 years old. I'm not saying it's impossible but that is 23 points playing beside the best offensive defensman in the league.

I definitely like Methot but I feel like selling him as a #2 is a stretch.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Nov 19 @ 11:29 PM ET
Bullpoop. They know damn well winning means more money. If you think Katz is fine with losing you don't have a clue.
- Iggysbff

And you know everything...well done! Good on ya! Rockstar!
OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers
Location: SK
Joined: 07.15.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:30 PM ET
Time to switch Aullie for Marty
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:31 PM ET
I'm actually scared to trade the 1st overall. Not because I want the new shiny object, it's just a fear of this team fukking up once again.
I can only imagine what it's like in the dressing room or the offices.

- Salvo

So isn't that the perfect climate to trade it?

Everyone values it high enough that someone might give something good away. Good enough to help us now and get out of the McDavid range anyway.
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:32 PM ET
1. I agree
2. batjester : #1 goalie would be a guy like Lehner. Doubt Sens would be trading him, but if the return was a top 6 forward, its possible

Marc Methot isn't a #1D...again he's pretty much Dan Hamhuis 5 years ago. He's a #2. He's a solid Dman. A lot of what I think Nurse will be.

Teamwork was the third thing? These names I'm giving I honestly believe would change the impact/culture of the team. They have a lot to give and are excellent PK/defensive players (maybe Greening is an exception but I think a change of teams could revive the power forward game he has)

Methot + Zibanejad would land Ebs. That I know for sure

- AlfieisKing






They need a proven #1. And it isn't a "culture" issue, it's a trust issue. Are you going to be where I expect you to be? Issue.

And a part of THAT problem is so many systems and so many different coaches in such a short time. That's why now isn't the time for ANOTHER coaching change.


Ebs+ gets the Oil Yandle and either Vermette or Hanzal depending on the +, which is a MUCH better fit.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:34 PM ET
Without looking, can anyone even tell name me 5 of the top prospects beyond McDavid, Eichel and Hannafin?

If not, stands to reason that all we'll need to do is finish 27th or higher if we were to make a trade with the pick.

You'd literally never know what you were missing.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:34 PM ET
He averages 17 points a season in his career and he's 29 years old. I'm not saying it's impossible but that is 23 points playing beside the best offensive defensman in the league.

I definitely like Methot but I feel like selling him as a #2 is a stretch.

- Dangles13


His career average doesn't really mean much going forward. He's bloomer late (pretty sure most D-men are right?).

My mistake the first time -- meant he will be closeR to 40. Unlikely to hit 40, more like 30-35. But he can definitely pay as a #2 (with a guy like Karlsson). Again, Dan Hamhuis.

If you want a #2 who puts up 40 points and plays 24min+....then we need to call Nashville and get Josie .... how far is Nurse from coming?
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:35 PM ET
Hey they just said Dupuis had this issue last January as well. Thanks for making me think my memory is going.
- ruttager17

Your welcome








Don't remember him having this problem last year honestly.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:36 PM ET
The Iron Sheik just got in touch with me. He got a 1 year ban. [/img]
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Nov 19 @ 11:38 PM ET
Without looking, can anyone even tell name me 5 of the top prospects beyond McDavid, Eichel and Hannafin?

If not, stands to reason that all we'll need to do is finish 27th or higher if we were to make a trade with the pick.

You'd literally never know what you were missing.

- Morris


Big center Dylan Strome, that Kylington defensman and centers Marner and Barzal are the 4 other guys I know off the top of my head.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 19 @ 11:38 PM ET
Without looking, can anyone even tell name me 5 of the top prospects beyond McDavid, Eichel and Hannafin?

If not, stands to reason that all we'll need to do is finish 27th or higher if we were to make a trade with the pick.

You'd literally never know what you were missing.

- Morris

Zacha, Strome, Kylington, Roy, and Pilon are all up there. Draude has looked solid as have Rantannen (unsure of spelling) and Korsotelev. Then there's a Swiss guy and a Russian guy in the Q that have lit it up.

Forgot about Barzal and Marner (among others).
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:38 PM ET
Oh, and Justin Schultz is a really $hitty player.
- Oildrum

(frank)in A bubba




Actually, on a team with a better d-core, he'd be a really good complimentary player. Oil just need him to do too much right now.
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Nov 19 @ 11:38 PM ET
Apparently Eakins said post game that the Oil didn't lose because of turnovers.



Is this guy for real.

Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Nov 19 @ 11:40 PM ET
His career average doesn't really mean much going forward. He's bloomer late (pretty sure most D-men are right?).

My mistake the first time -- meant he will be closeR to 40. Unlikely to hit 40, more like 30-35. But he can definitely pay as a #2 (with a guy like Karlsson). Again, Dan Hamhuis.

If you want a #2 who puts up 40 points and plays 24min+....then we need to call Nashville and get Josie .... how far is Nurse from coming?

- AlfieisKing


He's bloomer late? Is that his twitter handle? Where are you getting this increase in production from?
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:40 PM ET
Apparently Eakins said post game that the Oil didn't lose because of turnovers.



Is this guy for real.

- Oildrum

Please tell me he mis-spoke?
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:41 PM ET
He's bloomer late? Is that his twitter handle? Where are you getting this increase in production from?
- Dangles13

Bloomer late is kinda lime a Blooming Onion, and those always hit me late
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