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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Nov 19 @ 9:39 AM ET
I do have a feeling that perhaps, despite my criticisms, schenn catches fire at center and that causes controversy
- JoeRussomanno

trade Schenn WITH the Zomberger and we could get a middle tier player like Daymund Lankcow
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Nov 19 @ 9:39 AM ET
VDV and Umberger are both wastes of time. Why not let Laughton play?
- PLindbergh31


I would rather have him take Umberger's 14 minutes of ice time as well and demote RJ to the 4th line too. And VDV is a 13th forward at best anyway.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Nov 19 @ 9:39 AM ET
The Flyers are one point ahead of Carolina.
- PLindbergh31

Thats not making me feel any better
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
I do have a feeling that perhaps, despite my criticisms, schenn catches fire at center and that causes controversy
- JoeRussomanno


That will actually cause a bigger existential problem for the Flyers than whether or not Laughton plays well.

If BSchenn steps in and kills it, I guess it's a good problem to have, but the questions will linger about just what position should Schenn play to have success.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
trade Schenn WITH the Zomberger and we could get a middle tier player like Daymund Lankcow
- jak521


Daymond Langkow gets the Nick Grossmann award for "Guy whose name we all (frank)ed up for years".
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
i'm most interested in seeing where/how laughton is used, just as much as how he performs. whether they win or not doesn't really matter, but it would be nice if they find a way to pull this out and stick it to that (frank)ing team tonight.

well...i guess it does matter.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Nov 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
Thats not making me feel any better
- GOA88

Well the good news is that the Flyers didnt start the season very well..



Wait, the Hurricanes did what?!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
I think this roster has individual talent that doesn't fit well together, no matter how you jumble the pieces.
- johndewar


I do believe that a better coach would be able to juice more out of this flawed ensemble... for example, Tippett spins straw into gold every year despite a tougher conference, mediocre players, and probably the poorest GM/owner support in the league.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
Yea I think I'll put my money on the Rangers tonight. Even if Giroux was playing......
- GOA88



I know right..Rangers record this season is clearly superior to the Flyers..

Philadelphia Flyers (7-7-2) take on the New York Rangers (7-7-4)
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Nov 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
Well the good news is that the Flyers didnt start the season very well..



Wait, the Hurricanes did what?!

- jak521

The only hope I have is that last season they turned it on in December. I need to see more deperation in their game. Why we havent seen it yet is ridiculous.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Nov 19 @ 9:47 AM ET
I know right..Rangers record this season is clearly superior to the Flyers..

Philadelphia Flyers (7-7-2) take on the New York Rangers (7-7-4)

- opeth_pa

Like that matters. Flyers skate in mud at MSG.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 19 @ 9:47 AM ET
I do believe that a better coach would be able to juice more out of this flawed ensemble... for example, Tippett spins straw into gold every year despite a tougher conference, mediocre players, and probably the poorest GM/owner support in the league.
- Tomahawk


Yeah, but you're talking about a group of guys that couldn't even bother to show up to training camp in shape.

I'm fine with Berube playing tough guy, for now, with this team as currently constituted. He won't be here 2 years from now.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Nov 19 @ 9:47 AM ET
That will actually cause a bigger existential problem for the Flyers than whether or not Laughton plays well.

If BSchenn steps in and kills it, I guess it's a good problem to have, but the questions will linger about just what position should Schenn play to have success.

- johndewar

Ahemmm..

(JAK as Flyers org. spokesperson)


"We love Brayden, we really do. We think he is a young guy that still has a lot more to offer. He plays a bigger game than his size would indicate. He brings that Flyers style play. He is a versatile kid too. We love that about him. We can play him at center or wing and know that he will do well. He still could be a bit more consistent, and we believe that will come in time. He just needs to keep his feet moving and working hard and everything will fall in to place."
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Nov 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
I do believe that a better coach would be able to juice more out of this flawed ensemble... for example, Tippett spins straw into gold every year despite a tougher conference, mediocre players, and probably the poorest GM/owner support in the league.
- Tomahawk

Thank you.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
Like that matters. Flyers skate in mud at MSG.
- GOA88


Even when they are playing well, they don't play well in MSG.

Just don't screw the pooch on Thursday. It's going to be a packed, rowdy house for the Legion of Doom thing.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
When Giroux returns, does anyone think Laughton sticks?
- PLindbergh31


Depends on how well he plays, and if there's enough ice time for him up here. It needs to be at least 10-12 minutes per game, but it would make for a very strong team down the middle.

BSchenn-Giroux-Voracek
Read-Couturier-Simmonds
Raffl-Bellemare-Lecavalier
Rinaldo-Laughton-Umberger
Akeson
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Nov 19 @ 9:49 AM ET
VDV and Umberger are both wastes of time. Why not let Laughton play?
It's bad enough the Flyers are being crippled by Umberger's cap hit, they shouldn't be forced to be hurt on the ice as well. Put his ass in the press box.

- PLindbergh31



Agree 100%
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 19 @ 9:50 AM ET
I'm fine with Berube playing tough guy, for now, with this team as currently constituted. He won't be here 2 years from now.
- johndewar


If his contract really does expire after this year, I doubt he gets re-upped, unless they inexplicably go deep.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 19 @ 9:51 AM ET
I would rather have him take Umberger's 14 minutes of ice time as well and demote RJ to the 4th line too. And VDV is a 13th forward at best anyway.
- NickTheKid87


i would too, but, but, but, he hasn't earned anything yet. he must start on the 4th line, play 5.5 minutes and earn it!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 19 @ 9:52 AM ET
If his contract really does expire after this year, I doubt he gets re-upped, unless they inexplicably go deep.
- Tomahawk


tough to put on the kreskin hat and see who would be available/good choice in that time, but who would you like to see?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 19 @ 9:58 AM ET
If his contract really does expire after this year, I doubt he gets re-upped, unless they inexplicably go deep.
- Tomahawk


You have to think Hextall has his own idea on who to bring in. I don't know how much input he had on selecting Berube, as I don't think he was back with the org all that long when that decision was made.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Nov 19 @ 9:59 AM ET
i would too, but, but, but, he hasn't earned anything yet. he must start on the 4th line, play 5.5 minutes and earn it!
- hammarby31


Laughton is 6'1" and was drafted in the first round, he's already earned everything
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Nov 19 @ 10:01 AM ET
I do believe that a better coach would be able to juice more out of this flawed ensemble... for example, Tippett spins straw into gold every year despite a tougher conference, mediocre players, and probably the poorest GM/owner support in the league.
- Tomahawk


Ok that does it. We trade Zombieburger to Arizona for a cactus and 6th rounder
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 19 @ 10:02 AM ET
tough to put on the kreskin hat and see who would be available/good choice in that time, but who would you like to see?
- hammarby31


Tippett would be at the top of my wish list... think his progressive approach to the game would mirror Hexy's philosophy better. He's also used to having to deal with a lot of kids being in the lineup at once.

After that, I don't know if they could poach Blashill from Grand Rapids or not, but he's done a nice job w/ developing the Wings' latest crop of kids. Luke Richardson's done a pretty good job in Binghamton with the Sens' kids, too... although I don't suspect people would react too well to another former Flyers plug hire.

Wildcard: Mike Keenan out of Russia. Reformed and probably could bring a lot of good ideas from overseas back with him.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 19 @ 10:02 AM ET
It could be worse.





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