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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
I will be the first to admit Eli isn't a great regular season QB. He turns the ball over too much, but he comes up huge in the playoffs. He's certainly not perfect, but he's got 2 Super Bowl MVP's. No one has more.
- PLindbergh31


Boggles the mind, like I said enshrine the man.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 19 @ 11:52 AM ET
Speculation that Berube's contemplating dressing Giroux's equipment bag over Corpseberger on the 1st line.
- Just5


Good call, IMO
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:53 AM ET
Boggles the mind, like I said enshrine the man.
- Just5


Coughlin will be in the HOF I believe. He also built an expansion team and had them in the AFC Championship game in a few years. That's pretty impressive too.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
I will be the first to admit Eli isn't a great regular season QB. He turns the ball over too much, but he comes up huge in the playoffs. He's certainly not perfect, but he's got 2 Super Bowl MVP's. No one has more.
- PLindbergh31

Have to credit his receivers for making some impossible clutch catches. Manningham and nicks
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
I'll take Eli Manning on the Eagles any day.
- MJL


I would too right now
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
Hugely entertaining new blog from Brad Marsh: Lessons in Old-Time Hockey

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=64115
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 19 @ 11:56 AM ET
Nope. In fact, pretty much everyone here thought it was a stupid move.

It was a hell of a shot though..

- jak521

Many of you were arguing with blue jackets fans all offseason about how umberger was gonna resurrect his career and outscore hartnell now that he's not playing with giroux.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 19 @ 11:59 AM ET
Many of you were arguing with blue jackets fans all offseason about how umberger was gonna resurrect his career and outscore hartnell now that he's not playing with giroux.
- rangerdanger94

provide names and evidence or admit you're lying
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 19 @ 11:59 AM ET
Many of you were arguing with blue jackets fans all offseason about how umberger was gonna resurrect his career and outscore hartnell now that he's not playing with giroux.
- rangerdanger94


I knew it was a horrible trade from the beginning. I think most people knew it was a downgrade in talent, but an upgrade in future cap relief.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM ET
Have to credit his receivers for making some impossible clutch catches. Manningham and nicks
- rangerdanger94


That dime he dropped to Manningham on the sidelines was unbelievable. Incredible throw. The first super bowl the catch by Tyree was definitely lucky, but Manning has to get credit for avoiding the rush, and getting loose from what should have been a sack.

Eli went into GB and won two playoff games in frigid temperatures against Favre and Rodgers, and was at least equal to Brady in two super bowls. What more can you ask from the guy?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
Many of you were arguing with blue jackets fans all offseason about how umberger was gonna resurrect his career and outscore hartnell now that he's not playing with giroux.
- rangerdanger94


You mean the -8 Hartnell who was stapled to the bench in the 3rd last night for taking a bad penalty? That Hartnell with 5 more years on his deal?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
That dime he dropped to Manningham on the sidelines was unbelievable. Incredible throw. The first super bowl the catch by Tyree was definitely lucky, but Manning has to get credit for avoiding the rush, and getting loose from what should have been a sack.

Eli went into GB and won two playoff games in frigid temperatures against Favre and Rodgers, and was at least equal to Brady in two super bowls. What more can you ask from the guy?

- PLindbergh31


You can ask him to be above average in the 150 other games he's played
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 19 @ 12:03 PM ET
I will be the first to admit Eli isn't a great regular season QB. He turns the ball over too much, but he comes up huge in the playoffs. He's certainly not perfect, but he's got 2 Super Bowl MVP's. No one has more.
- PLindbergh31


I guess Joe Montana doesn't count?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 19 @ 12:05 PM ET
You can ask him to be above average in the 150 other games he's played
- PhillySportsGuy


88-73 record, 247 TD's, 182 Int's, 30 game winning drives, 2 Super Bowls, 2 Super Bowl MVP's. I'll take it every day of the week.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 19 @ 12:07 PM ET
I guess Joe Montana doesn't count?
- jmatchett383


Nope. Can't take anyone seriously who loses an NFC Championship game at home to Jeff Hostetler.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 19 @ 12:08 PM ET
88-73 record, 247 TD's, 182 Int's, 30 game winning drives, 2 Super Bowls, 2 Super Bowl MVP's. I'll take it every day of the week.
- PLindbergh31


He's had success in the past, but God damn his constant pouty face drives me nuts. Dude lacks the ability to smile.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 19 @ 12:08 PM ET
88-73 record, 247 TD's, 182 Int's, 30 game winning drives, 2 Super Bowls, 2 Super Bowl MVP's. I'll take it every day of the week.
- PLindbergh31


His regular season numbers are similar to McNabb's except he throws a lot more interceptions and has rushed for less yardage.

If you take out the lightning in a bottle Super Bowl runs (which had as much to do with the defense), Manning isn't even better than McNabb or Romo.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 19 @ 12:08 PM ET
Nope. Can't take anyone seriously who loses an NFC Championship game at home to Jeff Hostetler.
- PLindbergh31


So you're saying Eli Manning is a better playoff QB better than Joe Montana? Just so we're clear.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
provide names and evidence or admit you're lying
- BulliesPhan87

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...p?thread_id=118068&page=6
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
His regular season numbers are similar to McNabb's except he throws a lot more interceptions and has rushed for less yardage.

If you take out the lightning in a bottle Super Bowl runs (which had as much to do with the defense), Manning isn't even better than McNabb or Romo.

- PhillySportsGuy


Once you start a sentence with If, does it really matter what comes after it?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 19 @ 12:11 PM ET
His regular season numbers are similar to McNabb's except he throws a lot more interceptions and has rushed for less yardage.

If you take out the lightning in a bottle Super Bowl runs (which had as much to do with the defense), Manning isn't even better than McNabb or Romo.

- PhillySportsGuy

But he did win those super bowls so why remove em?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 19 @ 12:11 PM ET
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/boards/thread.php?thread_id=118068&page=6
- rangerdanger94

you can't hold the meltzer thread accountable for the ek thread, that's some bullpoop
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 19 @ 12:11 PM ET
So you're saying Eli Manning is a better playoff QB better than Joe Montana? Just so we're clear.
- jmatchett383


Umm... No. Montana is the best QB of all time.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 19 @ 12:12 PM ET
Umm... No. Montana is the best QB of all time.
- PLindbergh31


But he lost an NFC Championship game to some dude I'm not familiar with. So his 3 Super Bowl MVP's don't count, right? Eli Manning (somehow, to you) has more Super Bowl MVP's than Joe Montana because Montana once lost a Conference Championship game.

Edit: I also said "playoff QB" not "QB."
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 19 @ 12:13 PM ET
But he lost an NFC Championship game to some dude I'm not familiar with. So his 3 Super Bowl MVP's don't count, right? Eli Manning (somehow, to you) has more Super Bowl MVP's than Joe Montana because Montana once lost a Conference Championship game.
- jmatchett383


I forgot Montana had 3. I didn't compare Eli to Montana. It.was.a.joke
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