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Forums :: Blog World :: Jan Levine: Game 18: TB 5 NYR 1, Failure to Compete by the Rangers at MSG on Monday
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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 9:18 PM ET
Ya gotta be kidding me. Cally scores about 25 a year and does
Many other good things. What does a guy have to do to be a
Legit top 6? Score 30? Are there any teams that have 4
Better wingers than cally? Even disregarding his immense intangibles,
Are there any teams w 4 wingers who score more than 25?
C'mon man.

- BobbySchmautz

Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, Perron?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 18 @ 9:55 PM ET
Tampa is playing their backup goalie tonight
- TPC

Just like the Isles started Johnson in Tampa Saturday
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 9:56 PM ET
Well could be worse...we could be Toronto
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Nov 18 @ 10:04 PM ET
Well could be worse...we could be Toronto
- rangerdanger94

You mean the team that already beat us twice
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 10:06 PM ET
You mean the team that already beat us twice
- TPC

well (frank) us eh
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Nov 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
Just like the Isles started Johnson in Tampa Saturday
- Vukota

I didn't watch either game...I am just going by box scores
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Nov 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
well (frank) us eh
- rangerdanger94

Actually I am glad the Rangers play the Flyers tomorrow after last nights game. I frankin hate the Flyers. Hopefully they bring their close to A game and take it out on Philly
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 18 @ 10:10 PM ET
I didn't watch either game...I am just going by box scores
- TPC

Yeah I wasn't trying to be a fack just pointing it out and both teams lost 5-2 starting their backups on the end of back to backs
BobbySchmautz
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 08.09.2011

Nov 18 @ 10:16 PM ET
Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, Perron?
- rangerdanger94


No dice
HankdaTank
New York Rangers
Location: Cut City, NJ
Joined: 04.10.2012

Nov 18 @ 10:18 PM ET
You mean the team that already beat us twice
- TPC

Thanks for reminding me, WTF happened to this team?
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Nov 18 @ 10:18 PM ET
Yeah I wasn't trying to be a fack just pointing it out and both teams lost 5-2 starting their backups on the end of back to backs
- Vukota

You might as well beat us up while we are down
way out west
Joined: 12.30.2008

Nov 18 @ 10:19 PM ET
Tampa is playing their backup goalie tonight
- TPC

Yah there's no way their backup could stop 15 of the rangers shots
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Nov 18 @ 10:22 PM ET
Thanks for reminding me, WTF happened to this team?
- HankdaTank

Just beat Philly 3 times over the next week so I can deal with my family around the Holidays. Actually I am gonna get ripped on with Dallas and Eagles playing on thanksgiving as well. I might just stay drunk all weekend.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 18 @ 10:26 PM ET
Actually I am glad the Rangers play the Flyers tomorrow after last nights game. I frankin hate the Flyers. Hopefully they bring their close to A game and take it out on Philly
- TPC

(frank) you
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 18 @ 10:36 PM ET
You might as well beat us up while we are down
- TPC

not my style plus its early
OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Nov 19 @ 8:22 AM ET
Ya gotta be kidding me. Cally scores about 25 a year and does
Many other good things. What does a guy have to do to be a
Legit top 6? Score 30? Are, go there any teams that have 4
Better wingers than cally? Even disregarding his immense intangibles,
Are there any teams w 4 wingers who score more than 25?
C'mon man.

- BobbySchmautz

I truly don't expect the fan base to admit the Ranger front office made a mistake by letting Callahan go. The facts as brought out by Brooksie were right on the mark. AV saw Cally as a holdover from Torts team, and wanted him gone. Couple that with a somewhat contentious contract negotiation, agreed upon by Slats, only to renege when Yzerman dropped his demand for another roster player in the deal. I know the party line is he wanted a NMC similar to Girardi's. It's BS, it was never a sticking point. Oh, and BTW Yzerman wound up with not one but two more Rangers, but I digress. The people who say Callahan is nothing more than a glorified 3rd line winger are either not paying attention or too busy waiting to weigh in on the next "Potvin sucks" chant.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 19 @ 8:24 AM ET
I truly don't expect the fan base to admit the Ranger front office made a mistake by letting Callahan go. The facts as brought out by Brooksie were right on the mark. AV saw Cally as a holdover from Torts team, and wanted him gone. Couple that with a somewhat contentious contract negotiation, agreed upon by Slats, only to renege when Yzerman dropped his demand for another roster player in the deal. I know the party line is he wanted a NMC similar to Girardi's. It's BS, it was never a sticking point. Oh, and BTW Yzerman wound up with not one but two more Rangers, but I digress. The people who say Callahan is nothing more than a glorified 3rd line winger are either not paying attention or too busy waiting to weigh in on the next "Potvin sucks" chant.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

My friend heard straight from callys mouth that they verbally agreed to a deal just 30 minutes before sather traded him. This was in mid July and cally was still furious and upset about it.
OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Nov 19 @ 8:55 AM ET
My friend heard straight from callys mouth that they verbally agreed to a deal just 30 minutes before sather traded him. This was in mid July and cally was still furious and upset about it.
- rangerdanger94

The deal was made and agreed upon until Yzerman called and dropped his demand for another roster player. Cally went to the morning skate thinking he was going be a Ranger for the next 6 years. What's done is done.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Nov 19 @ 9:30 AM ET
I disagree. Cally is a top 6 player imo. No doubt stammer will help inflate his stats though.
- rangerdanger94



Pairing average to above average players with NHL elite's will inflate their stats, but not always by luck of being on the ice at the same time as that elite player. Often chemistry strikes and make the good fit. It makes you a better player because you lift your game to not drag theirs down (if that makes sense).

Remember the first season after the lockout when Sather signed Michel Nylander and Martin Straka and everyone and their mother laughed at those signings. When they were paired with Jagr, that line clicked and dominated 95% of the games. Jagr was Jagr and the other two wept the benefits of playing with him and had amazing season themselves.

Callahan never had that elite player to role with while here in NY. But he still produced very well and was a good leader. He will truly excel with Stamkos. I would not be surprised to see a 30+ goal/60+ point season from Cally this year (if he stays healthy).
HankdaTank
New York Rangers
Location: Cut City, NJ
Joined: 04.10.2012

Nov 19 @ 9:32 AM ET
The deal was made and agreed upon until Yzerman called and dropped his demand for another roster player. Cally went to the morning skate thinking he was going be a Ranger for the next 6 years. What's done is done.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

Everyone needs to calm done about Callahan scoring two the other night, fact is he more than likely would not have scored 2 if he was still a Ranger and there isn't a bone in my body that believes the run to finals would have happened without St. Louis, just the game winner in OT alone, you could give Callahan all day and a bucket of pucks and he's not picking that corner on Tokarski, his salary know would be a handcuff to the Rangers and eventually it may be one to Tamps too, youth eventually gets paid
HankdaTank
New York Rangers
Location: Cut City, NJ
Joined: 04.10.2012

Nov 19 @ 9:35 AM ET
Pairing average to above average players with NHL elite's will inflate their stats, but not always by luck of being on the ice at the same time as that elite player. Often chemistry strikes and make the good fit. It makes you a better player because you lift your game to not drag theirs down (if that makes sense).

Remember the first season after the lockout when Sather signed Michel Nylander and Martin Straka and everyone and their mother laughed at those signings. When they were paired with Jagr, that line clicked and dominated 95% of the games. Jagr was Jagr and the other two wept the benefits of playing with him and had amazing season themselves.

Callahan never had that elite player to role with while here in NY. But he still produced very well and was a good leader. He will truly excel with Stamkos. I would not be surprised to see a 30+ goal/60+ point season from Cally this year (if he stays healthy).

- mames11


Good comparison and Nylander eventually got paid somewhere else but was never the same player he was in NY, the injury bug Callahan had is probably gone now that he's not in NY, just seems to be a curse on the organization (cough cough Sam Rosen)
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 19 @ 10:03 AM ET
Tampa is playing their backup goalie tonight
- TPC

Just like we were the other night on the wrong end of back to back. Same exact situation, same exact scores with the outcomes reversed.

Edit; saw this was touched upon.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
The reason we all hesitated on the Callahan contract wasn't how good of player he is now, or next year, it's how good will he be the final 2-3 years of that deal. I don't understand why everyone feels the needs to put a final judgement on decisions months after they are made. We need to see how this pans out. Does Cally live up to that contract through it's entirety? What does St. Louis accomplish in his time here? Would it have made the short term gain worth it? It all remains to be seen.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
Also, I normally read the comments but instead I just quickly skimmed. Some people here need to have drink and relax... jesus....

Also, no Giroux tonight. Don't know if that's been mentioned.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:10 AM ET
Everyone needs to calm done about Callahan scoring two the other night, fact is he more than likely would not have scored 2 if he was still a Ranger and there isn't a bone in my body that believes the run to finals would have happened without St. Louis, just the game winner in OT alone, you could give Callahan all day and a bucket of pucks and he's not picking that corner on Tokarski, his salary know would be a handcuff to the Rangers and eventually it may be one to Tamps too, youth eventually gets paid
- HankdaTank


That first goal was such a disgusting move by Stamkos I smiled after the goal. It was gorgeous. Any one of us dopes could put that in.
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