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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 18 @ 9:28 PM ET
I would move Bellemareto 1C. He's already played well with BSchenn this year and is our second best FO guy

Schenn-PEB-Voracek
Read-Coots-Simmond's
Umberger-Laughton-Lecavalier
Rinaldo-VdV-Akeson

- Feanor


The (frank) is wrong with you? You being serious right now? Wake the hell up man. Jesus.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 18 @ 9:30 PM ET
Fiddle de dee...

I'm willing to do anything to get the other lines going.

- Jsaquella


Berube said after Monday's practice that he's reluctant to break up his established "forward pairs" unless necessary but doesn't mind at all rotating the third member of the line.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 18 @ 9:35 PM ET
Berube said after Monday's practice that he's reluctant to break up his established "forward pairs" unless necessary but doesn't mind at all rotating the third member of the line.
- bmeltzer


It's necessary to find something that works his "forward pairs" be damned
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 18 @ 9:35 PM ET
Berube said after Monday's practice that he's reluctant to break up his established "forward pairs" unless necessary but doesn't mind at all rotating the third member of the line.
- bmeltzer


That's part of my issue with him, to be honest. I get the resistance to splitting up Giroux and Voracek. I'd be hesitant to split them as well. I also get the reluctance-despite the subpar play-as far as Read and Couturier go. Keeping Vinnyburger together...sorry, just do not get it.

That said, the team has been a one or two line team for most of the season. Lately, the bottom six has been next to worthless. One line teams tend to get beat, especially in today's NHL.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 18 @ 9:38 PM ET
It's necessary to find something that works his "forward pairs" be damned
- ob18


Part of the reason Laviolette was let go was because he failed to adapt. If Berube wants to die on that hill, so be it. I'll shed no tears for him.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 18 @ 9:40 PM ET
Berube said after Monday's practice that he's reluctant to break up his established "forward pairs" unless necessary but doesn't mind at all rotating the third member of the line.
- bmeltzer


Lol. I love how he says 'pairs' when the only pair he's referring to thats healthy is Couts-Read.
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Nov 18 @ 9:46 PM ET
Boy, Toronto is horrible!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 18 @ 9:46 PM ET
In about a half hour, Randy Carlyle might be available to replace Berube.

Preds 8 Leafs 0
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 18 @ 9:47 PM ET
Leafs really brought the A game tonight
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 18 @ 9:48 PM ET
Leafs really brought the A game tonight
- PhillySportsGuy

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 18 @ 9:48 PM ET
is there a gif of him picking up the phone after running out of bounds in like 04?
- Crimsoninja


I think that was 08 playoffs
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 18 @ 9:48 PM ET

- Nucker101


Does Nashville get 10?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 18 @ 9:50 PM ET
In about a half hour, Randy Carlyle might be available to replace Berube.

Preds 8 Leafs 0

- Jsaquella


Give Lava Dmen like that and watch him go to work.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 18 @ 9:50 PM ET
Does Nash get 10?
- PhillySportsGuy



I feel bad for the decent guys who cheer for the but there's so many bumholes that cheer for that team that I (frank)ing love this.



Reminds me of this:

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 18 @ 9:51 PM ET
Give Lava Dmen like that and watch him go to work.
- Just5


He's had a great start in Nashville. If he can sustain it for more than a couple years is the trick.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 18 @ 9:55 PM ET
The (frank) is wrong with you? You being serious right now? Wake the hell up man. Jesus.
- Nucker101


Who are hell are you? Clearly someone with no clue as to how solid Bellemare has looked on every line he's got to play on.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 18 @ 9:57 PM ET
He's had a great start in Nashville. If he can sustain it for more than a couple years is the trick.
- Jsaquella


Yea thats tricky. But I still love his system with very good mobile defensemen and Nashville's unit is certainly the best he's ever had to work with. I don't think his tenure would have crashed here if Pronger didn't get injured. So I like his chances.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 18 @ 9:59 PM ET
I feel bad for the decent guys who cheer for the but there's so many bumholes that cheer for that team that I (frank)ing love this.



Reminds me of this:

- Nucker101


I remember that one. Flyers had one in the playoffs against Buffalo that was bad. I think Pominville and Briere had hat tricks for Buffalo.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Nov 18 @ 10:02 PM ET
Does Nashville get 10?
- PhillySportsGuy



Can't wait to listen to Toronto sports radio tomorrow morning.
I like listening to their self proclaimed know it all fans cry and whine and still believe their team is great
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
That's part of my issue with him, to be honest. I get the resistance to splitting up Giroux and Voracek. I'd be hesitant to split them as well. I also get the reluctance-despite the subpar play-as far as Read and Couturier go. Keeping Vinnyburger together...sorry, just do not get it.

That said, the team has been a one or two line team for most of the season. Lately, the bottom six has been next to worthless. One line teams tend to get beat, especially in today's NHL.

- Jsaquella


What's not to get? With Raffl hurt, they are short on LW's. Umberger is a LW. He wants to try and get Simmonds going again, so he tried him on the top line at LW. He wasn't comfortable there, so he moved him back to RW. So then Simmonds either plays with Couturier or Lecavalier. Simmonds and Lecavalier didn't work before, so that leaves Couturier if he's not willing to split up Giroux and Voracek. Not going to split up Read and Couturier, so that leaves either the 4th line or the Lecavalier line for Umberger at LW. When the situation is looked at objectively, it's understandable that he's kept Umberger and Lecavalier together. No matter what he does, there is going to be a hole somewhere, or a line that is not ideal.
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
I think there shouldn't be so much reverence for the set lines at this point. I honestly believe that Jake Voracek can lead his own line. I don't know why people are so scared to try it out for a game or two. No choice now, he'll be playing without G coming up here...so, we'll get a chance to see what that looks like.

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 18 @ 10:10 PM ET
Leafs really brought the A game tonight
- PhillySportsGuy

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 18 @ 10:10 PM ET
I think there shouldn't be so much reverence for the set lines at this point. I honestly believe that Jake Voracek can lead his own line. I don't know why people are so scared to try it out for a game or two. No choice now, he'll be playing without G coming up here...so, we'll get a chance to see what that looks like.
- exlund


Silver lining to the dark cloud, eh?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 18 @ 10:11 PM ET
Part of the reason Laviolette was let go was because he failed to adapt. If Berube wants to die on that hill, so be it. I'll shed no tears for him.
- Jsaquella


Laviolette's situation was completely different. He failed to adjust strategy and system wise. Berube has been juggling lines all season trying to find a combination that works through all 4 lines. Stating that Berube isn't trying to adapt and trying to fix team issues is hogwash. That's all he's been doing. While also juggling injuries to the defense. Now the loss of Giroux.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 18 @ 10:12 PM ET
that was epic.


still pisses me off that McNabb really had the chance to - for once - be genuine with the fans during his # retirement and instead he gave the most contrived, awkward hype speech of all time.

- Crimsoninja

YOU BELIEVE DAT
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