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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 17 @ 8:49 AM ET


http://www.torontosun.com...e-lowly-sabres-in-buffalo

Some highlights:

"Ted Nolan wants his Buffalo Sabres to be more like Latvia. That’s what it has come to with the worst team in the National Hockey League."

"Whether the Sabres can gather enough of an effort to beat the Maple Leafs on Saturday night at the First Niagara Center is doubtful."

"The Sabres are 13-1-1 in their past 15 games against the Leafs on home ice, but they’re so terrible this year that record should amount to little."

- stashu


Not that I blame Nolan for taking pride in the team he coached, but if a moral victory consisting of a goaltender standing on his head against Canada is his idea of "success", then we have problems.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Nov 17 @ 8:55 AM ET
Not that I blame Nolan for taking pride in the team he coached, but if a moral victory consisting of a goaltender standing on his head against Canada is his idea of "success", then we have problems.
- buffalofan19



We already have those.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 17 @ 8:57 AM ET
We already have those.
- dadeadhead



Let me rephrase: then we have even more problems.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Nov 17 @ 8:58 AM ET
Let me rephrase: then we have even more problems.
- buffalofan19



IMO not really.

We already knew this was his MO.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 17 @ 9:03 AM ET
IMO not really.

We already knew this was his MO.

- dadeadhead



Yeah, I guess. Still the fact that he explicitly points to a team of "lovable losers" as the one he wants his team to emulate, disturbs me. It reminds me of the time Chris Drury allegedly requested to be traded because Lindy Ruff stated the goal was to make the playoffs, and not to win the Cup.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 17 @ 9:09 AM ET
Yeah, I guess. Still the fact that he explicitly points to a team of "lovable losers" as the one he wants his team to emulate, disturbs me. It reminds me of the time Chris Drury allegedly requested to be traded because Lindy Ruff stated the goal was to make the playoffs, and not to win the Cup.
- buffalofan19


I remember how Drury thought it was crazy there weren't any pictures of the Stanley Cup in the locker room too.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Nov 17 @ 9:13 AM ET
I remember how Drury thought it was crazy there weren't any pictures of the Stanley Cup in the locker room too.
- HonkFortheGoose



The cookies were good.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 17 @ 9:16 AM ET
Yeah, I guess. Still the fact that he explicitly points to a team of "lovable losers" as the one he wants his team to emulate, disturbs me. It reminds me of the time Chris Drury allegedly requested to be traded because Lindy Ruff stated the goal was to make the playoffs, and not to win the Cup.
- buffalofan19

What should he do though? Try and make Ennis into Sidney Crosby or Hodgson into Malkin and tell the media he's trying to emulate the '09 Pens?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 17 @ 9:18 AM ET
What should he do though? Try and make Ennis into Sidney Crosby or Hodgson into Malkin and tell the media he's trying to emulate the '09 Pens?
- sbroads24



I'd rather him say nothing at all.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 17 @ 9:18 AM ET
The cookies were good.


- dadeadhead


You're welcome.

They definitely turned out pretty awesome. It took a lot of will power for me not to eat those.
Flynox
Buffalo Sabres
Location: McEichel
Joined: 06.16.2011

Nov 17 @ 9:24 AM ET
One more year of suffering and things will start to get better guys! The Sabres are building a great group of core players, Who can't be excited over the thought of Reinhart, McEichel and Girgensons being our core players for the next decade, even more? With Reinhart having a year to develop, That was a good decision by Murray to send him back to juniors. Add all thee other pieces we still have after that, the 2 other first round picks, Our two young & Promising defensemen Zadorov and Risto. The future is looking bright, I'm excited! Anybody else?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Nov 17 @ 9:30 AM ET
You're welcome.

They definitely turned out pretty awesome. It took a lot of will power for me not to eat those.

- HonkFortheGoose



I wouldn't have blamed you.
gerbe42
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.10.2011

Nov 17 @ 9:39 AM ET
One more year of suffering and things will start to get better guys! The Sabres are building a great group of core players, Who can't be excited over the thought of Reinhart, McEichel and Girgensons being our core players for the next decade, even more? With Reinhart having a year to develop, That was a good decision by Murray to send him back to juniors. Add all thee other pieces we still have after that, the 2 other first round picks, Our two young & Promising defensemen Zadorov and Risto. The future is looking bright, I'm excited! Anybody else?
- Flynox

The future is bright and i like the positivity. Having said that, let's not expect that its going to be all hunkey dory next year and we make the playoffs. There's still a long road ahead of us for the best prospect pool in the nhl to develop into a Stanley cup contending team. Eichel or McDavid isn't going to change everything, it's just the beginning
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Nov 17 @ 9:48 AM ET
The future is bright and i like the positivity. Having said that, let's not expect that its going to be all hunkey dory next year and we make the playoffs. There's still a long road ahead of us for the best prospect pool in the nhl to develop into a Stanley cup contending team. Eichel or McDavid isn't going to change everything, it's just the beginning
- gerbe42

STANLEY CUP NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!7489276423jkrewhg8wn vw
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 17 @ 9:51 AM ET
STANLEY CUP NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!7489276423jkrewhg8wn vw
- jochfr


The best part is hockeybuzz people have this impression that Sabres fans actually think this...
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Nov 17 @ 9:51 AM ET
The future is bright and i like the positivity. Having said that, let's not expect that its going to be all hunkey dory next year and we make the playoffs. There's still a long road ahead of us for the best prospect pool in the nhl to develop into a Stanley cup contending team. Eichel or McDavid isn't going to change everything, it's just the beginning
- gerbe42


the Sabres are in a good spot moving forward but it's foolish to think that a bunch of high draft picks is all you need. we all know the Oilers example of what happens when you can't supplement high picks with smart drafting rounds 2-7 and shrewd trades/signings. but even teams like LA and Chicago acquired major parts of their rosters outside of just high picks.
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Nov 17 @ 9:52 AM ET
The best part is hockeybuzz people have this impression that Sabres fans actually think this...
- stashu

Cup next year or blow it the frank up!

Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Nov 17 @ 9:54 AM ET
the Sabres are in a good spot moving forward but it's foolish to think that a bunch of high draft picks is all you need. we all know the Oilers example of what happens when you can't supplement high picks with smart drafting rounds 2-7 and shrewd trades/signings. but even teams like LA and Chicago acquired major parts of their rosters outside of just high picks.
- DoubleDown

Edmontons problem is they rely too much on their talented youth. They need to supplement that talent with good vets. I don't think murrary makes that same mistake. He will make the trades/signings to expedite our rebuild.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 17 @ 9:55 AM ET
Cup next year or blow it the frank up!


- Carubba-Kaleta


#WHATHASGMTMDONEANYWAYS
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 17 @ 9:59 AM ET
The future is bright and i like the positivity. Having said that, let's not expect that its going to be all hunkey dory next year and we make the playoffs. There's still a long road ahead of us for the best prospect pool in the nhl to develop into a Stanley cup contending team. Eichel or McDavid isn't going to change everything, it's just the beginning
- gerbe42


WGR mentioned this morning that Damien Cox is saying that even with McDavid, the Sabres won't be relevant for 6 more years. I personally don't think it'll be that long.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 17 @ 9:59 AM ET
the Sabres are in a good spot moving forward but it's foolish to think that a bunch of high draft picks is all you need. we all know the Oilers example of what happens when you can't supplement high picks with smart drafting rounds 2-7 and shrewd trades/signings. but even teams like LA and Chicago acquired major parts of their rosters outside of just high picks.
- DoubleDown[/
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I think you will see 1 or maybe both of the Isles, Blues 2015 1sts go towards actual NHL players.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 17 @ 10:00 AM ET
WGR mentioned this morning that Damien Cox is saying that even with McDavid, the Sabres won't be relevant for 6 more years. I personally don't think it'll be that long.
- HonkFortheGoose

Cox's article was a joke in general.
Flynox
Buffalo Sabres
Location: McEichel
Joined: 06.16.2011

Nov 17 @ 10:06 AM ET
the Sabres are in a good spot moving forward but it's foolish to think that a bunch of high draft picks is all you need. we all know the Oilers example of what happens when you can't supplement high picks with smart drafting rounds 2-7 and shrewd trades/signings. but even teams like LA and Chicago acquired major parts of their rosters outside of just high picks.
- DoubleDown

That's the second most important part of the rebuild, You get your core players in place through the draft and then you go out and get players in free agency or through trade to help your team succeed and let these young guys develop. You can't have a bunch of 18 year olds with no veteran leadership like Edmonton
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 17 @ 10:09 AM ET
That's the second most important part of the rebuild, You get your core players in place through the draft and then you go out and get players in free agency or through trade to help your team succeed and let these young guys develop. You can't have a bunch of 18 year olds with no veteran leadership like Edmonton
- Flynox

Also, what people forget when they use the Edmonton example is the fact that even before we drafted Reinhart, we had one of the better prospect pools, along with good young NHL'ers already on the roster
Flynox
Buffalo Sabres
Location: McEichel
Joined: 06.16.2011

Nov 17 @ 10:13 AM ET
Also, what people forget when they use the Edmonton example is the fact that even before we drafted Reinhart, we had one of the better prospect pools, along with good young NHL'ers already on the roster
- sbroads24

We have a lot of good prospects in our system, We can wait until some of these guys develop and not rush them like Edmonton. Their rebuild went downhill because they were impatient.
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