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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 14 @ 10:59 AM ET
Sheena Parveen shows up with another guy and Hartsy gets depressed is a -2 and takes 2 minors.
- Steelmanpa


I once went out with a lady I work with to dinner.

Guess we were having a torrid love affair.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 14 @ 11:05 AM ET
Yep. Traded the Schenn brothers and a 4th.
- jmatchett383

we better have gotten JVR back!
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 14 @ 11:06 AM ET
I once went out with a lady I work with to dinner.

Guess we were having a torrid love affair.

- jmatchett383


I bet you were guessing what color panties she was wearing ... admit it!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 14 @ 11:11 AM ET
I bet you were guessing what color panties she was wearing ... admit it!
- PhillaBully


Actually wondering when she'd just order so I could get home.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 14 @ 11:12 AM ET
we better have gotten JVR back!
- PhillaBully


No, but we did trade Voracek and Couturier for Jack Johnson.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:13 AM ET
No, but we did trade Voracek and Couturier for Jack Johnson.
- jmatchett383

3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:16 AM ET
did we get mike richards yet?
- PhillaBully


Deal is in the works... Richards for Vinny and Umberger!



PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 14 @ 11:17 AM ET
Actually wondering when she'd just order so I could get home.
- jmatchett383


If you werent into her why did you take her out lol....
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 14 @ 11:17 AM ET
Deal is in the works... Richards for Vinny and Umberger!
- 3flyerkids


One can only dream
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:19 AM ET
Deal is in the works... Richards for Vinny and Umberger!
- 3flyerkids


Yes please!
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 14 @ 11:21 AM ET
No, but we did trade Voracek and Couturier for Jack Johnson.
- jmatchett383


You forgot Marko Dano
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:22 AM ET
One can only dream
- PhillaBully


I know.. I would fly in from Toronto and personally chauffeur Vinny and RJ to the airport!
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 14 @ 11:23 AM ET
I know.. I would fly in from Toronto and personally chauffeur Vinny and RJ to the airport!
- 3flyerkids

Hold your head up high...at least your not a leaf fan...I hear all the sorrow and suffering on 590 the fan all day
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 14 @ 11:25 AM ET
You are.

75% of the 1st-round series were won by the better possession team (FF% ES-close from regular season)

3 of the top-6 were there in the Conf Finals. Finals was #1 vs #6.

- Tomahawk



I wasn't looking at Fenwick. I was looking at Corsi, and the numbers might not have been Corsi-close.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Nov 14 @ 11:27 AM ET
I have a serious, legitimate question about the whole possession stat thing.

Ryan Wilson mentions possession or shot % numbers in every blog, or so it seems. He was talking about the TML last year having the worst recorded possession numbers. However, up until the last month of the season, they were sitting pretty nicely in a playoff spot, and simply imploded down the stretch.

Now, I don't know if their possession numbers were so terrible down the stretch that it brought the season number down that low (it likely didn't help), but it seems like, at least in their case, they simply imploded, possession numbers or not. The bottom line is that they stopped scoring, the goaltending became leaky, and the defenders weren't defending.

So, my question is this: taking away the debate of the usefulness of advanced stats, is it possible that a team simply does not execute and loses even if their possession numbers stay relatively the same as they were when the team wins? I know there are statistical anomalies where a team gets significantly outshot and out-possessed and wins (last year, Flyers @ LA), but is it possible that a team has other factors that contribute to their success more than just a collection of raw data?

Again, I don't want to start up the daily advanced stats discussion, but am just curious if other people who value them think that there are other factors which can impact a team more significantly than their possession and shot percentages using what happened to TML last year as an example.

/tldr

- jmatchett383


I think the idea is that the Leafs were having more success than they should be having and at some point they'd regress to the mean, and when they imploded, that's what was happening.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 14 @ 11:33 AM ET
Deal is in the works... Richards for Vinny and Umberger!
- 3flyerkids


Hextall has naked pictures of Dean Lombardi with someone who isn't his wife?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 14 @ 11:35 AM ET
Petry and Perron for Coburn
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
Hextall has naked pictures of Dean Lombardi with someone who isn't his wife?

- MBFlyerfan

Jeff Carter?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:38 AM ET
Petry and Perron for Coburn
- vejim

No. Why not wait until the offseason and sign Petry if you want him. The Flyers need defenseman more than wingers. They have simmonds, voracek, read, schenn and Raffl who are all top 6 wingers.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 14 @ 11:42 AM ET
If you werent into her why did you take her out lol....
- PhillaBully


Because it was work-related. You know, it IS possible for a guy and girl to go out without having crazy sex.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 14 @ 11:44 AM ET
No. Why not wait until the offseason and sign Petry if you want him. The Flyers need defenseman more than wingers. They have simmonds, voracek, read, schenn and Raffl who are all top 6 wingers.
- PhillySportsGuy

still think Hexy will trade the Schenns
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 14 @ 11:45 AM ET
Jeff Carter?
- vejim




MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 14 @ 11:46 AM ET
Because it was work-related. You know, it IS possible for a guy and girl to go out without having crazy sex.
- jmatchett383



Happens to me all the time.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 14 @ 11:48 AM ET
Happens to me all the time.

- MBFlyerfan

Fast_Eddie_1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Vorhees, NJ
Joined: 01.31.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:50 AM ET
Because it was work-related. You know, it IS possible for a guy and girl to go out without having crazy sex.
- jmatchett383


Only if she was a fat chic with small boobies.
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