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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 13 @ 11:07 AM ET
the undrafted line. not too shabby to have 4 undrafted players contributing to your team. Granted Raffl and PEB were older
- nastyflyergirl


oh yeah. gems.

and it helps cap wise too since theyre generally cheaper
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 13 @ 11:07 AM ET
Death star en route
- Just5



trollbuzz
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 13 @ 11:07 AM ET
I understand that it freed up two years of cap space for younger guys who will require raises and extensions, but right now, it looks like the Flyers/Hexy got fleeced in this deal. Columbus was going to use a compliance buyout on him anyway, so why not trade Hartnell for a pick? Between this trade and the JVR one, the Flyer GM's are looking like trade geniuses
- aantny88


I get the trade to some degree tho. I really believe they just wanted to get out from under the term of Hartnell's contract. they are really going to have to pay up for Voracek and even Schenn, Couturier and Coburn.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 13 @ 11:09 AM ET
Regarding the third period period where Talbot got the puck away from Umberger and then fed it to Tanguay for a goal, Chief said yesterday, "He wasn't knocked off the ice. He just lost it on the wall."

I don't really see how that's any better.

- bmeltzer


Fair and balanced. Much respect
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:09 AM ET
I understand that it freed up two years of cap space for younger guys who will require raises and extensions, but right now, it looks like the Flyers/Hexy got fleeced in this deal. Columbus was going to use a compliance buyout on him anyway, so why not trade Hartnell for a pick? Between this trade and the JVR one, the Flyer GM's are looking like trade geniuses
- aantny88

I still dont get the JVR trade? Hexy finding these bargain D men makes you wonder what Homer was thinking?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 13 @ 11:10 AM ET
Who sits when Amac and Schenn return????

Right now...

Our best D-men are as follows (with how they have performed to date)
Del Zotto
Streit
Schultz
MacDonald
Grossmann
Schenn
Small Sample Sizes
Coburn
Colaiocovo

- GOA88



nice problem to have for once huh? and depth in the minors and prospects, altho that has taken a hit injury wise as well. I had hopes of MDZ finding his game so I can't say its been a surprise per se but Schultz has been a big pleasant surprise.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 13 @ 11:11 AM ET
getting MDZ and Schultz was like Hexy shopping at Marshalls
- vejim


... and coming out w/ a pristine Rolex.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 13 @ 11:11 AM ET
oh yeah. gems.

and it helps cap wise too since theyre generally cheaper

- stayinthefnnet



No question about it. so important to draft well and find undrafted gems
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 13 @ 11:13 AM ET
I get the trade to some degree tho. I really believe they just wanted to get out from under the term of Hartnell's contract. they are really going to have to pay up for Voracek and even Schenn, Couturier and Coburn.
- nastyflyergirl

Umberger is still on the books when each of those guys is due their raise. If they buy him out after next season, he will count 1.5M against the cap for two more years. It saves money but not a ton. I think he's less moveable now than he was last year.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:13 AM ET
trollbuzz
- MBFlyerfan


What, are you a cop?



stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 13 @ 11:13 AM ET
No question about it. so important to draft well and find undrafted gems
- nastyflyergirl


yeah. with the cap system the way it is, and teams holding onto their own assets liek gold, drafting is really the way to acquire guys anymore.

and if you can find usable guys in the late rounds/undrafted, it eases the sting of trading away those 2/3/4 rounders at the deadline
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 13 @ 11:14 AM ET
This is the greatest post I've seen on here since the season started, at the very least.
- Giroux_Is_God


It was 99% Plind.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:17 AM ET
yeah. with the cap system the way it is, and teams holding onto their own assets liek gold, drafting is really the way to acquire guys anymore.

and if you can find usable guys in the late rounds/undrafted, it eases the sting of trading away those 2/3/4 rounders at the deadline

- stayinthefnnet

live long and draft well
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 13 @ 11:18 AM ET
live long and draft well
- vejim


or trade all of your foreseeable second rounders for douglass murray. either or.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 13 @ 11:18 AM ET
What, are you a cop?




- tangent_man


I know this is Martin Moll, but I am not sure of the reference......
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 13 @ 11:18 AM ET
Did he have surgery to remove the herniated disc?
That often has lingering problems.

- Marc D


No surgeries thus summer.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:19 AM ET
or trade all of your foreseeable second rounders for douglass murray. either or.
- stayinthefnnet

Homer traded most of his 2nds
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:21 AM ET
I know this is Martin Mull, but I am not sure of the reference......

- MBFlyerfan


He occasionally played Russell the Pharmacist on Two and a Half Men, and would often be seen sampling the cough syrup or taking a pill from a customer's count ("Ah, she isn't going to miss one"). When Charlie would call him on it, that would be his line.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 13 @ 11:22 AM ET
Homer traded most of his 2nds
- vejim


true. id take amac over ole big boy murray though.

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 13 @ 11:23 AM ET
It was 99% Plind.
- Tomahawk

he couldn't pick up the garbage if you didn't put it on net

EDIT: I'm backwards day I think
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 13 @ 11:28 AM ET
Regarding the third period period where Talbot got the puck away from Umberger and then fed it to Tanguay for a goal, Chief said yesterday, "He wasn't knocked off the ice. He just lost it on the wall."

I don't really see how that's any better.

- bmeltzer


I moved the car out of the way so the truck didn't smash into it, but I didn't realize that I had stopped on the train tracks
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 13 @ 11:29 AM ET
Umberger is still on the books when each of those guys is due their raise. If they buy him out after next season, he will count 1.5M against the cap for two more years. It saves money but not a ton. I think he's less moveable now than he was last year.
- PhillySportsGuy

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 13 @ 11:31 AM ET
It was 99% Plind.
- Tomahawk

The pic though.

You guys are co-winners.

Congrats.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 13 @ 11:33 AM ET

- Tomahawk


Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 13 @ 11:37 AM ET
So... TSN's region-locked all of their NHL clips now? Used to just be The Reporters and some other random stuff.
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