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SuperSchennBros
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Nov 13 @ 5:10 PM ET
So Hartnell blames Berube.


http://www.theflyersfeed....n-a-member-of-the-flyers/

sorry if Leight

- MBFlyerfan

Good for Hartnell for speaking out. The comments made by both Hextall and Berube were so ridiculously transparent. They were transparent yesterday, they were transparent today and they were transparent last summer. You'd have to be a complete moron to defend this nonsense. As a fan and a professional, I'd want the truth. As a man I'd want the truth. They're no doing anyone any favourites by downplaying their decisions.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 13 @ 5:14 PM ET
Good for Hartnell for speaking out. The comments made by both Hextall and Berube were so ridiculously transparent. They were transparent yesterday, they were transparent today and they were transparent last summer. You'd have to be a complete moron to defend this nonsense. As a fan and a professional, I'd want the truth. As a man I'd want the truth. They're no doing anyone any favourites by downplaying their decisions.
- SuperSchennBros


Does it really serve any purpose for Hartnell to put that out publicly? Would it serve any purpose for Berube or Hextall to criticize the player publicly, and talk about why they wanted to move him? I think we all know why anyway, or at least can speculate on it.
SuperSchennBros
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Nov 13 @ 5:20 PM ET
Does it really serve any purpose for Hartnell to put that out publicly? Would it serve any purpose for Berube or Hextall to criticize the player publicly, and talk about why they wanted to move him? I think we all know why anyway, or at least can speculate on it.
- MJL

Scott Hartnell signed a deal committing himself to the team. He wanted to be here and he was rejected. Whatever motivates him to win tomorrow, good for him. He had to pack up and move, they didn't. Berube did criticize Hartnell last summer and yesterday through the magic of I don't know what, they're friends?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 13 @ 5:26 PM ET
Good for Hartnell for speaking out. The comments made by both Hextall and Berube were so ridiculously transparent. They were transparent yesterday, they were transparent today and they were transparent last summer. You'd have to be a complete moron to defend this nonsense. As a fan and a professional, I'd want the truth. As a man I'd want the truth. They're no doing anyone any favourites by downplaying their decisions.
- SuperSchennBros


GMs rarely, if ever, speak the truth. It's the nature of the business. It would be kinda funny if they did though:

Hextall on Hartnell: Couldn't wait to get him and his ridiculous contract out of here, guy couldn't even bother coming to camp in shape. Would have preferred to just get a pick for him, but Columbus insisted we take the corpse known as Umberger too.

Hextall on VLC: Hell I even tried trading him to the KHL, but Putin forbade it. Frank you Homer for saddling me with this lovely deal.

Hextall on L Schenn: Am I disappointed?? Homer moved a legit 1st line LW for a guy who is 7th on our D depth chart. No, I'm just friggin tickled pink.

Hextall on Berube: Well he's an ok coach...for now. I'll bring in someone better when I think we can actually contend.

Hextall on the local media: Wouldn't be so bad if I could only talk to Meltzer. JFC, the rest of these idiots couldn't tell a hockey puck from a cantaloupe!
SuperSchennBros
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Nov 13 @ 5:27 PM ET
It'll help if the Flyers haven't got used to days off. We've all seen bad starts after extended periods of no games.

Hartnell's probably in town already and taking some of the boys out tonight. Sly bastard.

- tangent_man

This is a guy who paid for the ice time out of pocket during the lockout so everyone could practice together.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 13 @ 5:27 PM ET
Scott Hartnell signed a deal committing himself to the team. He wanted to be here and he was rejected. Whatever motivates him to win tomorrow, good for him. He had to pack up and move, they didn't. Berube did criticize Hartnell last summer and yesterday through the magic of I don't know what, they're friends?
- SuperSchennBros


You know that just because you sign a contract, doesn't mean that you're guaranteed not to be traded. It's a business.
SuperSchennBros
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Nov 13 @ 5:28 PM ET
GMs rarely, if ever, speak the truth. It's the nature of the business. It would be kinda funny if they did though:

Hextall on Hartnell: Couldn't wait to get him and his ridiculous contract out of here, guy couldn't even bother coming to camp in shape. Would have preferred to just get a pick for him, but Columbus insisted we take the corpse known as Umberger too.

Hextall on VLC: Hell I even tried trading him to the KHL, but Putin forbade it. Frank you Homer for saddling me with this lovely deal.

Hextall on L Schenn: Am I disappointed?? Homer moved a legit 1st line LW for a guy who is 7th on our D depth chart. No, I'm just friggin tickled pink.

Hextall on Berube: Well he's an ok coach...for now. I'll bring in someone better when I think we can actually contend.

Hextall on the local media: Wouldn't be so bad if I could only talk to Meltzer. JFC, the rest of these idiots couldn't tell a hockey puck from a cantaloupe!

- BiggE

Bobby Clarke did all the time.
SuperSchennBros
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Nov 13 @ 5:28 PM ET
You know that just because you sign a contract, doesn't mean that you're guaranteed not to be traded. It's a business.
- MJL

He had a no movement clause.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
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Nov 13 @ 5:33 PM ET
Bobby Clarke did all the time.
- SuperSchennBros


Are you kidding??? Clarke was notorious for saying that they had absolutely no intention of making a trade and then, 10 minutes later, a deal would be announced. Clarke would sometimes let his emotions out, but, like all GMs, he kept most stuff to himself and had no qualms lying to the media.
SuperSchennBros
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Nov 13 @ 5:36 PM ET
Are you kidding??? Clarke was notorious for saying that they had absolutely no intention of making a trade and then, 10 minutes later, a deal would be announced. Clarke would sometimes let his emotions out, but, like all GMs, he kept most stuff to himself and had no qualms lying to the media.
- BiggE

Did Clarke ever lie about his dislike for Eric Lindros? It's one thing to not be open about possible trade scenarios to throw off rival bitters, it's another for our coach and GM to say we're all friends here and then the player to comes out and say they're lying less then 24 hours later.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Nov 13 @ 5:41 PM ET
This is a guy who paid for the ice time out of pocket during the lockout so everyone could practice together.
- SuperSchennBros


And that's great. He's a decent guy who looks out for his teammates. For he's a jolly good fellow.

Did he not waive his NTC to go to Columbus when he was told he wasn't in the future plans? He saw the writing on the wall and, while it might have hurt, he moved on. Now there's bad feelings being aired out, and that's cool. It's his first time back in Philly; I expected some kind of interview to expose that.

It's the game inside the game inside the game. His team's in a rut and maybe they can rally around him. It's just bulletin board material at this point.




MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 13 @ 5:43 PM ET
He had a no movement clause.
- SuperSchennBros


I know he did. He waived it.
SuperSchennBros
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Nov 13 @ 5:45 PM ET
And that's great. He's a decent guy who looks out for his teammates. For he's a jolly good fellow.

Did he not waive his NTC to go to Columbus when he was told he wasn't in the future plans? He saw the writing on the wall and, while it might have hurt, he moved on. Now there's bad feelings being aired out, and that's cool. It's his first time back in Philly; I expected some kind of interview to expose that.

It's the game inside the game inside the game. His team's in a rut and maybe they can rally around him. It's just bulletin board material at this point.

- tangent_man

Clearly he hasn't moved on.

From my standpoint, it was an awful deal. It was an awful deal from day one.

Speaking for myself I have no problem calling a Richard a Richard.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 13 @ 5:45 PM ET
And that's great. He's a decent guy who looks out for his teammates. For he's a jolly good fellow.

Did he not waive his NTC to go to Columbus when he was told he wasn't in the future plans? He saw the writing on the wall and, while it might have hurt, he moved on. Now there's bad feelings being aired out, and that's cool. It's his first time back in Philly; I expected some kind of interview to expose that.

It's the game inside the game inside the game. His team's in a rut and maybe they can rally around him. It's just bulletin board material at this point.

- tangent_man


Interesting way to look at it.
SuperSchennBros
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Nov 13 @ 5:47 PM ET
I know he did. He waived it.
- MJL


They asked him to waive it. What happens after is up to both sides. If Hartnell wants to voice how he feels, he doesn't owe it to Berube not to.
SuperSchennBros
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Nov 13 @ 5:51 PM ET
Interesting way to look at it.
- MJL


Somehow Hartnell doesn't strike me as that calculating.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 13 @ 5:54 PM ET
Somehow Hartnell doesn't strike me as that calculating.
- SuperSchennBros

that doesn't occur to me as a particularly calculating scenario.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 13 @ 5:56 PM ET
They asked him to waive it. What happens after is up to both sides. If Hartnell wants to voice how he feels, he doesn't owe it to Berube not to.
- SuperSchennBros


I'm aware of what happened. I think you're more upset about the trade then Hartnell is.
SuperSchennBros
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Nov 13 @ 5:58 PM ET
I'm aware of what happened. I think you're more upset about the trade then Hartnell is.
- MJL

Well, I guess we'll never know. What we do know is, he's pretty upset with Craig Berube.
SuperSchennBros
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Nov 13 @ 5:59 PM ET
that doesn't occur to me as a particularly calculating scenario.
- BulliesPhan87

Then you've missed the point because Tangent_man laid it on pretty thick.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 13 @ 6:01 PM ET
Then you've missed the point because Tangent_man laid it on pretty thick.
- SuperSchennBros

SuperSchennBros
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Nov 13 @ 6:05 PM ET

- Crimsoninja

Tommy Boy is where I stole the line from, thanks!
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 13 @ 6:06 PM ET
Tommy Boy is where I stole the line from, thanks!
- SuperSchennBros

oh i know
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 13 @ 6:11 PM ET
Then you've missed the point because Tangent_man laid it on pretty thick.
- SuperSchennBros

lol
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 13 @ 6:11 PM ET
So, is Mike Richards a Flyer yet?
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