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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:32 AM ET
Horrible 3rd goal. Pulled. 4th goal was Labarbara and it was bad too
- wilsonecho91


he almost got the williams goal. nothing wrong with that one. he was very fortunate that kopitar hit him with the final SO shot. he went poke check with him at the hash marks. loved his celebration.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:33 AM ET
A ridiculous game
- wilsonecho91


i bet you feel like you just watched the flyers lose that game. don't you?
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:34 AM ET
i bet you feel like you just watched the flyers lose that game. don't you?
- hammarby31

Neigh - pulling for the ducks after 5-3. Was hoping for exactly that result
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:35 AM ET
he almost got the williams goal. nothing wrong with that one. he was very fortunate that kopitar hit him with the final SO shot. he went poke check with him at the hash marks. loved his celebration.
- hammarby31


Right out. I was talking about the Gaborik goal.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:35 AM ET
Neigh - pulling for the ducks after 5-3. Was hoping for exactly that result
- wilsonecho91


no, i just meant that's exactly the kind of game the flyers would lose. go up by 2 with under 10 to go and lose in the SO.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:36 AM ET
Right out. I was talking about the Gaborik goal.
- wilsonecho91


i know. i was just saying the next one was good.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:38 AM ET
i know. i was just saying the next one was good.
- hammarby31


Sorry - I didn't pick up on either comment. My doll is disconnected
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:42 AM ET
Sorry - I didn't pick up on either comment. My doll is disconnected
- wilsonecho91


jc, gary.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:49 AM ET
jc, gary.
- hammarby31

You flatter me... I'm coming to the horrendous realization that I'm Al(e), not Gary.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 13 @ 7:42 AM ET
what a goal by kessler. yeah, he's so done.
- hammarby31


He looks like a new man since he left Vancouver, good for him.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 13 @ 8:50 AM ET
He looks like a new man since he left Vancouver, good for him.
- Jsaquella


Are we still trying to trade VLC, Umberger and Rinaldo for Mike Richards this morning?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM ET
Really depressing stuff happening to Nathan Horton

http://bluejacketsxtra.di...-blue-jackets-horton.html

He has a degenerative back problem that's keeping him from standing without pain let alone playing NHL hockey. He can either get surgery to fix it but also end any chance at playing in the NHL again or keep trying other remedies that haven't worked at all yet. And he's only 29.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 13 @ 9:20 AM ET
Really depressing stuff happening to Nathan Horton

http://bluejacketsxtra.di...-blue-jackets-horton.html

He has a degenerative back problem that's keeping him from standing without pain let alone playing NHL hockey. He can either get surgery to fix it but also end any chance at playing in the NHL again or keep trying other remedies that haven't worked at all yet. And he's only 29.

- NickTheKid87


That does suck.

I remember when he came out of junior thinking he was going to be an absolute beast.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM ET
Really depressing stuff happening to Nathan Horton

http://bluejacketsxtra.di...-blue-jackets-horton.html

He has a degenerative back problem that's keeping him from standing without pain let alone playing NHL hockey. He can either get surgery to fix it but also end any chance at playing in the NHL again or keep trying other remedies that haven't worked at all yet. And he's only 29.

- NickTheKid87

The decision is easy, IMO.

Time to hang it up. You want to play with your grandkids, right?

Absolute shame
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Nov 13 @ 9:26 AM ET
The decision is easy, IMO.

Time to hang it up. You want to play with your grandkids, right?

Absolute shame

- Giroux_Is_God


The decision in theory is easy, but we're talking about a guy not only giving up his job but his passion too. Plus all these doctors and medical professions are telling him they can fix him so it's kind of a conflicting thing going on. I'm sure he'll exhaust all options and then if he's not better, get the surgery.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 13 @ 9:26 AM ET
The decision is easy, IMO.

Time to hang it up. You want to play with your grandkids, right?

Absolute shame

- Giroux_Is_God


Yeah, pretty much. Very sad
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 13 @ 9:28 AM ET
The decision in theory is easy, but we're talking about a guy not only giving up his job but his passion too. Plus all these doctors and medical professions are telling him they can fix him so it's kind of a conflicting thing going on. I'm sure he'll exhaust all options and then if he's not better, get the surgery.
- NickTheKid87

I have degenerative discs in my back as well. His career is over. People kept telling me I could get better with rehab but I didn't feel any better after 4 months of it. My doctors have told me I can't play competitive sports anymore let alone a rough game like hockey. Even if he does work his way back, he won't be an effective player. Sad but true
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 13 @ 9:30 AM ET
The decision in theory is easy, but we're talking about a guy not only giving up his job but his passion too. Plus all these doctors and medical professions are telling him they can fix him so it's kind of a conflicting thing going on. I'm sure he'll exhaust all options and then if he's not better, get the surgery.
- NickTheKid87

The last quote is not good. It seems like he's in a bit of a delusion.

Degenerative bac problems don't just "get better". It's in the name. Degenerative. No one can "fix" his issue.

He's done.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 13 @ 9:30 AM ET
Yeah, pretty much. Very sad
- BiggE


A similar injury killed the career of my childhood hero Don Mattingly. He ended up getting his discs fused.

Its a hard decision. But in the end I think he hangs it up and gets the surgery. Its a choice between being bed ridden in pain and watching your kids grow up from the window, or being able to go out with them.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 13 @ 9:30 AM ET
I have degenerative discs in my back as well. His career is over. People kept telling me I could get better with rehab but I didn't feel any better after 4 months of it. My doctors have told me I can't play competitive sports anymore let alone a rough game like hockey. Even if he does work his way back, he won't be an effective player. Sad but true
- PhillySportsGuy


I'm in the same boat, it sucks.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 13 @ 9:33 AM ET
I'm in the same boat, it sucks.
- BiggE

It's always nice when you meet with a doctor and he says "you don't need surgery, yet"
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 13 @ 9:35 AM ET
It's always nice when you meet with a doctor and he says "you don't need surgery, yet"
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm worried this is going to happen to my girlfriend.

"Your back isn't completely eaten away by your immune system yet". Let's not go down that road please.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 13 @ 9:36 AM ET
I'm worried this is going to happen to my girlfriend.

"Your back isn't completely eaten away by your immune system yet". Let's not go down that road please.

- Giroux_Is_God

Glass is half full kind of doctor
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Nov 13 @ 9:39 AM ET
I have degenerative discs in my back as well. His career is over. People kept telling me I could get better with rehab but I didn't feel any better after 4 months of it. My doctors have told me I can't play competitive sports anymore let alone a rough game like hockey. Even if he does work his way back, he won't be an effective player. Sad but true
- PhillySportsGuy


That's a shame and also means that CBJ would have to do the Pronger Dance until 2020
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Nov 13 @ 9:40 AM ET
The last quote is not good. It seems like he's in a bit of a delusion.

Degenerative bac problems don't just "get better". It's in the name. Degenerative. No one can "fix" his issue.

He's done.

- Giroux_Is_God


Chase Utley has dengerative knees and is still an effective player. I guess it depends on the location and severity too. From what he says, that he can't stand, get out of the car, sleep, etc. without pain, it sounds like he's in a really bad spot.
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