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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 11 @ 12:39 PM ET
Stempniak in, duclair out
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 11 @ 12:49 PM ET
Playing around with armchair GM for next year with the cap staying the same. Being able to have 5 guys on the back end who make a Mil or less helps this team out immensely. I did this with giving healthy raises to all FAs signed as well.

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Patric Hornqvist ($4.250m)
Kasperi Kapanen ($0.925m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Jiri Tlusty ($3.750m)
Beau Bennett ($1.250m) / Brandon Sutter ($3.300m) / Pascal Dupuis ($3.750m)
Blake Comeau ($1.000m) / Oskar Sundqvist ($0.701m) / Nick Spaling ($2.200m)
Jayson Megna ($0.900m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($5.500m)
Simon Despres ($0.900m) / Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
Scott Harrington ($0.589m) / Derrick Pouliot ($0.863m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($1.000m) /
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.750m)
Matthew Murray ($0.620m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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(estimations for 2015-16)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,442,500; BONUSES: $1,230,833
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,557,500
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Nov 11 @ 1:03 PM ET
I just can't wait for kap amd sund to play with sid and malkin..
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 11 @ 1:07 PM ET
I just can't wait for kap amd sund to play with sid and malkin..
- nh4442


You think they are both here next year?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Nov 11 @ 1:16 PM ET
I am glad I am not making this decision. Its tough because Martin is a low key elite d man in this league, so any time you have a chance to lock down a guy like that you take it. On the other hand, our depth at D is stupid ridiculous and we are a team that's against the cap, so that creates a two sided problem: 1) We should be utilizing our cheap contracts at D to alleviate our cap situation, and 2) We have to start playing our youth or their development will be retarded. Couple that with the fact that Martin is not young and had some issues staying healthy last season and there is a serious predicament. Bottom line: with our depth, even if Scuds goes, we only have room for one older vet not named Letang: Martin or Ehrhoff.

One of Martin or Ehrhoff needs to be signed, and preferably at 5 mil 3 years. I like Ehrhoff a lot. He's looked solid this season and would be even more solid next season after spending a full year on this team and system. However, Martin is obviously the superior player and that won't change in 3 years, I don't think. While Ehrhoff is loads more likely to sign for 5mil/3years, I'd much rather that contract go to Paul Martin.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Nov 11 @ 1:18 PM ET
I just can't wait for kap amd sund to play with sid and malkin..
- nh4442


I have a pipe dream that Sundqvist can be converted into a powerforward top 6 winger, but at the end of the day he is a bottom 6 center. He has tremendous upside, but upside for a 3C roll. He will not play alongside Sid or Geno.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Nov 11 @ 1:18 PM ET
Not so surprising timing on the Martin change of heart... This paragraph jumped out at me in the New York Times piece on the Pens the other day:



The story this summer was that Martin was close to Bylsma/Reirdon and wasn't happy with the change. Funny what a little bit of time and winning will do. Interesting that he basically took a shot at the old system too.

- rival22


Martin might have been close to Bylsma and Reirdon, but I guess what I never understood about that sentiment is what was so attractive about losing in spectacular fashion every spring? If ever there was a team that screamed of needed change, it was this team......I'm glad Martin is finally on board. That said, I'd be happy about only one of Martin or Hoff. Certainly not both.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 11 @ 1:20 PM ET
Wow, Gonchar to the Habs
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Nov 11 @ 1:21 PM ET
I have a pipe dream that Sundqvist can be converted into a powerforward top 6 winger, but at the end of the day he is a bottom 6 center. He has tremendous upside, but upside for a 3C roll. He will not play alongside Sid or Geno.
- Victoro311


I dream of top six! Sound the trumpets! He shoots, he scores!!!!
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 11 @ 1:30 PM ET
Wow, Gonchar to the Habs
- cap1681


Back with Therrien....

I thought the Stars were already thin on defence?
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 11 @ 1:31 PM ET
Back with Therrien....

I thought the Stars were already thin on defence?

- rival22


Unless they are making room for something bigger
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Nov 11 @ 1:33 PM ET
Unless they are making room for something bigger
- cap1681


I mean, it wouldn't be surprising. Gonchar at 5 mil isn't exactly solid value these days. If they have something in hand for a better valued d man, I would absolutely try to move Gonchar to make room for him.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 11 @ 1:34 PM ET
Unless they are making room for something bigger
- cap1681


That was my first thought as well.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 11 @ 1:40 PM ET
That was my first thought as well.
- rival22


Martin to Dallas for Brett Ritchie and a 3rd
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Nov 11 @ 1:40 PM ET
The Pens should send a message to Staal tonight. I hope they will.

I don't know why the Stars gave Gonchar that kind of deal in the first place.

Also I could care less how many goals Jagr scores.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Nov 11 @ 1:41 PM ET
Its official: Sweet Beau is back, baby!
Palmer117
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Bridgeville , PA
Joined: 06.10.2014

Nov 11 @ 1:41 PM ET
Martin to Dallas for a first jagr to the pens for a 2nd
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Nov 11 @ 1:50 PM ET
Its official: Sweet Beau is back, baby!
- Victoro311


Let's see if they jump him right in at right wing with Geno. Should be an easy choice.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 11 @ 1:51 PM ET
Its official: Sweet Beau is back, baby!
- Victoro311


Who moves to the 4th line? Spaling, Comeau, or Downie?
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Nov 11 @ 1:51 PM ET
The Pens should send a message to Staal tonight. I hope they will.

I don't know why the Stars gave Gonchar that kind of deal in the first place.

Also I could care less how many goals Jagr scores.

- acdc1206


How about not creating a crap storm and just win.

Jagrbombs for life
tbassett
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Northern Cambria, PA
Joined: 07.02.2014

Nov 11 @ 1:59 PM ET
Man I wonder what type of deal Martin would be willing to do with the Penguins. JR number one priority should be trading Scuderi. By any means necessary. If the cap really doesn't go up next year Scuderi's cap space will be very valuable.

I really think we could solve our winger problem by taking advantage of Boston or Chicago's cap situation. Try to sign R. Smith from Boston or Saad from Chicago. Those teams will have so many issues with the cap I don't see how they would get out of it.

Our D would have LeTang, Martin/Ehroff, Matta on the last year of his entry deal, Despres on a pretty friendly contract, plus either Bortuzzo or Harrington or Puliout.

They need to make something happen and get one more top six winger for Malkin
all-pgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.14.2014

Nov 11 @ 2:03 PM ET
Its official: Sweet Beau is back, baby!
- Victoro311

ill put the over/under at twenty and ill say under. prove me wrong beau
ScienceJesus
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.03.2013

Nov 11 @ 2:04 PM ET
Who moves to the 4th line? Spaling, Comeau, or Downie?
- cap1681


IMO, Comeau. He can add some hands/grit to that line, while Spaling & Downie have fit in perfectly alongside Sutter. I don't want to mess with that line. He's a more talented Sill and can definitely fit in that role well. He might even help make Adams look like a serviceable player.

Goc/Adams/Comeau isn't a bad 4th line.
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Nov 11 @ 2:04 PM ET
Man I wonder what type of deal Martin would be willing to do with the Penguins. JR number one priority should be trading Scuderi. By any means necessary. If the cap really doesn't go up next year Scuderi's cap space will be very valuable.

I really think we could solve our winger problem by taking advantage of Boston or Chicago's cap situation. Try to sign R. Smith from Boston or Saad from Chicago. Those teams will have so many issues with the cap I don't see how they would get out of it.

Our D would have LeTang, Martin/Ehroff, Matta on the last year of his entry deal, Despres on a pretty friendly contract, plus either Bortuzzo or Harrington or Puliout.

They need to make something happen and get one more top six winger for Malkin

- tbassett

I agree trade Scuds, but he has value and there is no rush to move him... wait for the right deal even if its the deadline. No possibility of Saad or Reilly getting moved.. they ll move Sharp or Erickson first...
cory7321
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 04.01.2009

Nov 11 @ 2:07 PM ET
I'm sorry but Martin is expendable right now with depth of D.
- nh4442

Name one of those guys that could step in and replace Martin. Better yet, name one of those guys that's played more than 10 NHL games.
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