Rene Bourque on waivers.

$4M though...

edit -- $3.3 cap hit
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Look at his stats last few years

Look at his stats last few years



- TheGame316

But look at his playoff stats haha. I'd prob take him over Scuderi but really not that interested.

On a weekly basis you take a subtle shots at Ryan and his style. Not to mention the time you told me "I offer absolutely nothing to this board".....completely unprovoked. Charm...not so much. Snark and condescension.....um yes.

If your wisdom lead you to conclude that Dan Bylsma was a great coach and Simone Despres is not an NHL player (two of your points), I think we'll need to debate the word wise too.
- madmike71

Hey I think you missed my Despres post earlier this week. I admit when I'm wrong. Only time I ever took a shot at you was in return for a shot at me. "completely unprovoked" is history rewritten. I'll continue to take subtle shots as you put them (I see them as friendly jabs) at our esteemed blogger's blogs or ideas. Never took a shot at the man personally. I find it almost unreal that your posts, at least towards myslef, are about as condescending as can be... and often unprovoked, and yopu have the nerve to accuse me of said traits. wow

ps. at least we agree on my freakish good looks.

Bingo!

Just dont understand how anyone would think he doesn't deserve the first crack on Geno's line. As if somehow he hasnt earned it but Comeau has.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

bennett malkin duper. if bb can stay healthy it would be wonderful. I'd actually prefer to see PH-crosby-duper and kunitz-malkin-bb. I know how hot that 1st line has been but I think this deserves a look

bennett malkin duper. if bb can stay healthy it would be wonderful. I'd actually prefer to see PH-crosby-duper and kunitz-malkin-bb. I know how hot that 1st line has been but I think this deserves a look
- ChrisMS

I think that totally makes sense. Duper has always been great with Sid, not so much with Geno. And it makes things more equitable.

Dear wins it in ot for wbs

I think that totally makes sense. Duper has always been great with Sid, not so much with Geno. And it makes things more equitable.
- hardnosed

and kunitz let malkin be the beast he can be. worth a shot in my mind.

and kunitz let malkin be the beast he can be. worth a shot in my mind.
- ChrisMS

They haven't shown much of an inkling for tinkering so far, even dating back to the preseason. Malkin at wing, a little shuffling here and there, but they've generally stuck with things.

I always wanted to see Neal get an extended look with Sid, now I want to see Horny get an extended look with Malkin, just to see what it looks like.

Unlikely to happen right now.

If I have to guess, I'd say Sutter/Bennett/Spaling is the third line to start, 2nd stays the same.

They haven't shown much of an inkling for tinkering so far, even dating back to the preseason. Malkin at wing, a little shuffling here and there, but they've generally stuck with things.

I always wanted to see Neal get an extended look with Sid, now I want to see Horny get an extended look with Malkin, just to see what it looks like.

Unlikely to happen right now.

If I have to guess, I'd say Sutter/Bennett/Spaling is the third line to start, 2nd stays the same.
- hardnosed

its early yet... injuries will likely force some tinkering. i'd think downie or comeau may have earned the third spot over spaling

What you really need to do is take all of those stats and percentages and see if they are significantly different. That 9% versus 8% may look slightly different, but with the sample size, it may not mean anything. We compare all of these stats and percentages, but gathering the data is half the battle. The other half would be to actually compare them with each other

What you really need to do is take all of those stats and percentages and see if they are significantly different. That 9% versus 8% may look slightly different, but with the sample size, it may not mean anything. We compare all of these stats and percentages, but gathering the data is half the battle. The other half would be to actually compare them with each other
- drummer829

That is the process of determining statistical significance. That would involve using a statistic and seeing if there is a direct causal relationship. Not just a coincidence, that there is a direct relationship to the statistic and goal production, for example. That is how they figured that puck possession was better than dumping for producing scoring chances and goals.

I like analytics because my brain just kind of works that way. But I also enjoy the emotional stuff and work ethic and all those intangibles. However, when push comes to shove the proof is in the results and really that goes for all of us at our jobs.

bennett malkin duper. if bb can stay healthy it would be wonderful. I'd actually prefer to see PH-crosby-duper and kunitz-malkin-bb. I know how hot that 1st line has been but I think this deserves a look
- ChrisMS

This is exactly what I want. Both Geno and Sid get a net front presence, and Malkin gets his set up guy. Would like to see Sid get a legit sniper to feed the rock to, but we just don't have that guy right now and I'm tired of speculating trades. Sid and Horny are too lightning in a bottle to separate right now, so I'd bump Kunitz down to Malkin.

This is exactly what I want. Both Geno and Sid get a net front presence, and Malkin gets his set up guy. Would like to see Sid get a legit sniper to feed the rock to, but we just don't have that guy right now and I'm tired of speculating trades. Sid and Horny are too lightning in a bottle to separate right now, so I'd bump Kunitz down to Malkin.
- Victoro311

Really? I just had a good one haha. I'll keep it in my back pocket.

I like the 9-87-72, 14-71-19 lines as well. MJ, please don't put Beau on the third. I've liked what youve done so far, dont mess this up!

Beau is ready to go. Can't wait to see him with Malkin.

This also means the end of Sill's run up with the big club. I wouldn't mind giving Megna a shot sometime soon. Seems he is having a bit of a good run.

Watched about half of the PGH hockey analytics conference, I should have went. Most of it would have been over my head, but the stuff that isn't it actually pretty impressive.

Man.. it's gonna be awesome having another crosby caliber player in the league. Can't wait for this kid to come in and start tearing it up.

Just took a look at the WBS box score for 11/9 to see how Bennett was doing.

Megna w/ 2G's, Dumoulin w/ 2A's and Benntt w/ 4A's. Hope all 3 are up with the Big club in the near future.

Pouliet w/ a PP G, but also a +/- of -2. The kid could use some time in WBS to hone his game and to build himself up physically for the grind of a 82 NHL game season plus the playoffs.

I've seen more than one article about how in demand Dmen are at the moment. If there is ANY possible way to move Scuderi for ANY pick or prospect, i really hope the Penguins pull the trigger. I know you need 8 NHL Dmen, but (1) Letang, (2) Martin, (3) Ehrhoff, (4) Maatta, (5) Despres, (6) Bortuzzo, (7) Harrington, and (8) Dumoulin more than do it for me. I didn't even include Pouliet on that list & its a solid.

Just took a look at the WBS box score for 11/9 to see how Bennett was doing.

Megna w/ 2G's, Dumoulin w/ 2A's and Benntt w/ 4A's. Hope all 3 are up with the Big club in the near future.

Pouliet w/ a PP G, but also a +/- of -2. The kid could use some time in WBS to hone his game and to build himself up physically for the grind of a 82 NHL game season plus the playoffs.

I've seen more than one article about how in demand Dmen are at the moment. If there is ANY possible way to move Scuderi for ANY pick or prospect, i really hope the Penguins pull the trigger. I know you need 8 NHL Dmen, but (1) Letang, (2) Martin, (3) Ehrhoff, (4) Maatta, (5) Despres, (6) Bortuzzo, (7) Harrington, and (8) Dumoulin more than do it for me. I didn't even include Pouliet on that list & its a solid.
- s0rcerer1984

Don't use -2 as a stand alone. Pouliot does everthing he needs to on the ice. From watching a few streams of WBS games he is a talent above the rest. If he were to come to Pittsburgh I wouldn't expect him to play more than 15 minutes a night anyway so fatigue is not going to be a factor.

Pouliot looks to be the real deal. Harrington as well. Dumo, in my opinion, is the one who needs work. He still does not know how to use his frame defensively.

Don't use -2 as a stand alone. Pouliot does everthing he needs to on the ice. From watching a few streams of WBS games he is a talent above the rest. If he were to come to Pittsburgh I wouldn't expect him to play more than 15 minutes a night anyway so fatigue is not going to be a factor.

Pouliot looks to be the real deal. Harrington as well. Dumo, in my opinion, is the one who needs work. He still does not know how to use his frame defensively.
- usethe1-2-2

I'm not saying that +/- is everything, but I do tend to think very few prospects are ready to play at the NHL level in their first year at a Cup contending caliber. And fewer still that are Dmen. Also, its not like the Penguins are bereft of NHL level Dmen in their system w/ Harrington and Dumoulin seemingly ready to go. Just saying a single season in WBS would not be the worst thing in the word for either Pouliet or the Penguins.

Also, Pouliet is unlikely to get significant PP time w/ the 1st PP unit killing it & Ehrhoff/Marting being a more reliable option on the 2nd PP unit.

Just took a look at the WBS box score for 11/9 to see how Bennett was doing.

Megna w/ 2G's, Dumoulin w/ 2A's and Benntt w/ 4A's. Hope all 3 are up with the Big club in the near future.

Pouliet w/ a PP G, but also a +/- of -2. The kid could use some time in WBS to hone his game and to build himself up physically for the grind of a 82 NHL game season plus the playoffs.

I've seen more than one article about how in demand Dmen are at the moment. If there is ANY possible way to move Scuderi for ANY pick or prospect, i really hope the Penguins pull the trigger. I know you need 8 NHL Dmen, but (1) Letang, (2) Martin, (3) Ehrhoff, (4) Maatta, (5) Despres, (6) Bortuzzo, (7) Harrington, and (8) Dumoulin more than do it for me. I didn't even include Pouliet on that list & its a solid.
- s0rcerer1984

It will be interesting to see what happens the rest of the month... I've seen comments attributed to a few GM's saying that nothing really happens until like the 20-25 game mark as far as trades... until you really know what you have/what you need. That gets you about until Thanksgiving.

I've also seen from hockey "insiders" that prices for d-men are sky high right now... maybe in the next couple of weeks, the few teams like the Pens with blueline depth will make a move.

I can't see why they wouldn't move Scuderi... Cap flexibility alone seems worth it.

It will be interesting to see what happens the rest of the month... I've seen comments attributed to a few GM's saying that nothing really happens until like the 20-25 game mark as far as trades... until you really know what you have/what you need. That gets you about until Thanksgiving.

I've also seen from hockey "insiders" that prices for d-men are sky high right now... maybe in the next couple of weeks, the few teams like the Pens with blueline depth will make a move.

I can't see why they wouldn't move Scuderi... Cap flexibility alone seems worth it.
- rival22

You have to find someone willing to take that contract. He's playing descent right now but theres still a scary amount of term left.

You have to find someone willing to take that contract. He's playing descent right now but theres still a scary amount of term left.
- dbell646

details... details...

I'm not saying that +/- is everything, but I do tend to think very few prospects are ready to play at the NHL level in their first year at a Cup contending caliber. And fewer still that are Dmen. Also, its not like the Penguins are bereft of NHL level Dmen in their system w/ Harrington and Dumoulin seemingly ready to go. Just saying a single season in WBS would not be the worst thing in the word for either Pouliet or the Penguins.

Also, Pouliet is unlikely to get significant PP time w/ the 1st PP unit killing it & Ehrhoff/Marting being a more reliable option on the 2nd PP unit.
- s0rcerer1984

Oh no doubt he would benefit greatly from time spent down there. He also would have to be lights out to jump Harrington.

The thing with Pouliot is that when he comes up to the big club he will likely be given the Krug treatment, minus the power play time. He will get a lot of offensive zone starts to showcase his offensive prowess and hide any defensive shortcomings.

You have to find someone willing to take that contract. He's playing descent right now but theres still a scary amount of term left.
- dbell646

Scuderi is playing better & if the price is truly that high, maybe (*emphasis on maybe*) some team is willing to take Scuderi for a 5th/6th rounder than pay a 1st, two 2nd's or an abover average prospect for a below average Dman.

Not saying it would happen, but given that the Penguins can ice a solid 8-10 Dman without Scuderi, they'd likley be willing to move him for far less a return that most as the cap space alone would be valuable.

Scuderi is playing better & if the price is truly that high, maybe (*emphasis on maybe*) some team is willing to take Scuderi for a 5th/6th rounder than pay a 1st, two 2nd's or an abover average prospect for a below average Dman.

Not saying it would happen, but given that the Penguins can ice a solid 8-10 Dman without Scuderi, they'd likley be willing to move him for far less a return that most as the cap space alone would be valuable.
- s0rcerer1984

I can't find the article, and I don't even know if it was credible, but I remember seeing something about Scuderi's partial no trade clause, that he only has to name 5 teams that he'd accept a trade to... If that's the case, then he's not going anywhere.

You'd guess the 5 teams would be LA, and probably the close NY teams (that's 4 if you count NJ), so it's not much of a market, and I'd guess the Islanders have no interest with their earlier moves. Maybe LA if the Voynov thing ends really bad and they can get out of that contract, but that's a big ?. Depending on Staal negotiations, Rangers likely aren't going to take on multi years of another d-man who costs more than he's worth.