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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 9 @ 6:08 PM ET
He hasn't had a great game yet.

Against the Jets we had a stretch of 7 straight 3 and outs. Good QB's do better

- sbroads24



Like I've said, they don't have a "good" starting quarterback on this roster.
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
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Nov 9 @ 6:09 PM ET
Should have kicked the field goal with over 2 minutes left instead of going for it on 4th and 10 from the 15 . Your defense was playing great and you have a great kicker . Very bad call.

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
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Nov 9 @ 6:11 PM ET
Should have kicked the field goal with over 2 minutes left instead of going for it on 4th and 10 from the 15 . Your defense was playing great and you have a great kicker . Very bad call.


- Maximum Signal



Wouldn't have mattered. This offense couldn't finish today. It was uncharacteristically aggressive of Marrone, and I'm not going to fault him for that. The game shouldn't have even come down to that.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 9 @ 6:13 PM ET
Should have kicked the field goal with over 2 minutes left instead of going for it on 4th and 10 from the 15 . Your defense was playing great and you have a great kicker . Very bad call.


- Maximum Signal

play calling like that should result in a firing. That decision could be the difference between the playoffs and once again missing out.

If we go 8-8 or worse I really hope Pegula gets a new HC and OC. The GM has put together a pretty talented team so I cant really ask for his head yet.
Maximum Signal
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Nov 9 @ 6:16 PM ET
Wouldn't have mattered. This offense couldn't finish today. It was uncharacteristically aggressive of Marrone, and I'm not going to fault him for that. The game shouldn't have even come down to that.
- buffalofan19


all they had to get was another field goal then . Sorry with the time left , the kicker you have and the way your defense was dominating it gave you your best chance to win . It was not aggressive . It was a bad decision.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
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Nov 9 @ 6:26 PM ET
all they had to get was another field goal then . Sorry with the time left , the kicker you have and the way your defense was dominating it gave you your best chance to win . It was not aggressive . It was a bad decision.
- Maximum Signal



It was aggressive, and I highly doubt Kansas City changes their playcalling in that situation. They would have needed to get another 3 and out either way, which they did not get. Not that I'm saying the defense is to blame, but the bottom line is this game came down to execution. When it mattered most, Kansas City got it. Buffalo didn't.
Maximum Signal
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Nov 9 @ 6:33 PM ET
It was aggressive, and I highly doubt Kansas City changes their playcalling in that situation. They would have needed to get another 3 and out either way, which they did not get. Not that I'm saying the defense is to blame, but the bottom line is this game came down to execution. When it mattered most, Kansas City got it. Buffalo didn't.
- buffalofan19


With over 2 minutes left . You look to extend the game so you still have a chance . At 2.23 with not making that first down you threw the game away. It has nothing to do with being aggressive . It was not 4th and 1 or 2 It was fourth and 10. Your defense would be chomping at the bit . Your defense holds worst case you are looking at getting the ball with at least 1 1/2 minutes left. And kicker that routinely kicks field goals over 50 yards . So all your offense has to get you is 30 -35 yards. Defense tightens up in the red zone. the fourth and 10 was 100-1 shot.
Maximum Signal
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Nov 9 @ 6:38 PM ET
play calling like that should result in a firing. That decision could be the difference between the playoffs and once again missing out.

If we go 8-8 or worse I really hope Pegula gets a new HC and OC. The GM has put together a pretty talented team so I cant really ask for his head yet.

- Smittyx36


Don't mind the Head coach but his loyalty to this offensive coordinator is going to cost him his job as well . Hackett is just not an NFL coordinator yet . He needs a few more years in the college game.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Nov 9 @ 6:38 PM ET
With over 2 minutes left . You look to extend the game so you still have a chance . At 2.23 with not making that first down you threw the game away. It has nothing to do with being aggressive . It was not 4th and 1 or 2 It was fourth and 10. Your defense would be chomping at the bit . Your defense holds worst case you are looking at getting the ball with at least 1 1/2 minutes left. And kicker that routinely kicks field goals over 50 yards . So all your offense has to get you is 30 -35 yards. Defense tightens up in the red zone. the fourth and 10 was 100-1 shot.
- Maximum Signal



I didn't mind them going for it on fourth down there, but if that was their plan all along, then understand it is four down territory and run the ball either on 2nd or 3rd down to make fourth down easier to convert.
Maximum Signal
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Nov 9 @ 6:42 PM ET
I didn't mind them going for it on fourth down there, but if that was their plan all along, then understand it is four down territory and run the ball either on 2nd or 3rd down to make fourth down easier to convert.
- rmiethaner


The fourth and 10 in the red zone was a long shot . Like I said 4th and or 2 . Sure go for it . I think the running game was averaging around 5 yards a carry today . You had lots of time still . So you are very correct in your analysis.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 9 @ 6:48 PM ET
With over 2 minutes left . You look to extend the game so you still have a chance . At 2.23 with not making that first down you threw the game away. It has nothing to do with being aggressive . It was not 4th and 1 or 2 It was fourth and 10. Your defense would be chomping at the bit . Your defense holds worst case you are looking at getting the ball with at least 1 1/2 minutes left. And kicker that routinely kicks field goals over 50 yards . So all your offense has to get you is 30 -35 yards. Defense tightens up in the red zone. the fourth and 10 was 100-1 shot.
- Maximum Signal



Bottom line is this: I am not going to fault any coach for going for the win, especially when a field goal doesn't even tie the game. It's more entertaining that way. He should have actually done more of that throughout the game. Teams win championships by being aggressive. Now, if we were talking about a tie with a field goal, it might be a different conversation.
Maximum Signal
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Nov 9 @ 7:01 PM ET
Bottom line is this: I am not going to fault any coach for going for the win, especially when a field goal doesn't even tie the game. It's more entertaining that way. He should have actually done more of that throughout the game. Teams win championships by being aggressive. Now, if we were talking about a tie with a field goal, it might be a different conversation.
- buffalofan19


Teams win championships by making sound decisions more than aggressive ones . The play calling towards the end of that game will shake the confidence of your defense . You are telling them you did not have the confidence in them to get the ball back . Like I said it was not aggressive . It wreaked of desperation which was not needed at all. Perhaps consult an actuary on this and get the odds on both scenarios . The one taken and the alternative . Like someone said before . That sort of decision making gets coaches fired.
buffalofan19
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Nov 9 @ 7:09 PM ET
Teams win championships by making sound decisions more than aggressive ones . The play calling towards the end of that game will shake the confidence of your defense . You are telling them you did not have the confidence in them to get the ball back . Like I said it was not aggressive . It wreaked of desperation which was not needed at all. Perhaps consult an actuary on this and get the odds on both scenarios . The one taken and the alternative . Like someone said before . That sort of decision making gets coaches fired.
- Maximum Signal


Even a three and out doesn't guarantee they get the ball back in enough time to march down for a field goal. It wasn't about confidence in your defense. It was about going for the win because you probably weren't going to get another chance in that position, especially in those conditions. And let's concede for a minute that you're right, and that they should have kicked that field goal, and completely ignore the fact that the defense didn't even make the stop it needed to anyway. That's still not first, second, third, fourth, fifth, or probably even sixth on the list of things the coaching staff should be criticized for that led to them losing that game. They had already put themselves in a bad position already.
Maximum Signal
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Nov 9 @ 7:17 PM ET
Even a three and out doesn't guarantee they get the ball back in enough time to march down for a field goal. It wasn't about confidence in your defense. It was about going for the win because you probably weren't going to get another chance in that position, especially in those conditions. And let's concede for a minute that you're right, and that they should have kicked that field goal, and completely ignore the fact that the defense didn't even make the stop it needed to anyway. That's still not first, second, third, fourth, fifth, or probably even sixth on the list of things the coaching staff should be criticized for that led to them losing that game. They had already put themselves in a bad position already.
- buffalofan19


You extend the game any analyst will tell you that along with 95% of the coaches out there . It was 4th and 10 not 4th and 1 or 2 . Please consider all the other factors I stated as well . In this case you are in the wrong . They have won other games with last second field goals . Could have done that here.
Campbell SpinORama
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 12.02.2006

Nov 9 @ 7:18 PM ET
They had first and ten on the 16 with 3-4 minutes left and they took four shots to the end zone? That's terrible. Work the middle of the field, intermediate plays. Run some clock, get another first down. Then take 4 shots.
Maximum Signal
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Nov 9 @ 7:18 PM ET
They had first and ten on the 16 with 3-4 minutes left and they took four shots to the end zone? That's terrible. Work the middle of the field, intermediate plays. Run some clock, get another first down. Then take 4 shots.
- Campbell SpinORama


Especially since your run game was quite effective today.


zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Nov 9 @ 7:20 PM ET
You extend the game any analyst will tell you that along with 95% of the coaches out there . It was 4th and 10 not 4th and 1 or 2 . Please consider all the other factors I stated as well . In this case you are in the wrong . They have won other games with last second field goals . Could have done that here.
- Maximum Signal

When it comes to you everybody else is always in the wrong.
Maximum Signal
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Nov 9 @ 7:24 PM ET
When it comes to you everybody else is always in the wrong.
- zdp1189


The play calling was bad in this situation . You could have extended the game . Ask some folks that have a football background.
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Nov 9 @ 7:26 PM ET
The play calling was bad in this situation . You could have extended the game . Ask some folks that have a football background.
- Maximum Signal

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Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 9 @ 7:27 PM ET
The Buffalo Sports scene is awesome
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 9 @ 7:29 PM ET
The Buffalo Sports scene is awesome
- Buffalo-Sabres

With the bills remaining schedule its about to get worse
Maximum Signal
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Nov 9 @ 7:30 PM ET
Like you?
- zdp1189


Played four years on a full scholarship . Knee injuries ended my career early . Was a student of the game. Sorry I guess yes . Loved film study and the strategy of the game. 4th and 10 in the red zone is just not a wise gamble with that much time left , the way your defense was playing and your very good field good kicker.
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 9 @ 7:33 PM ET
Played four years on a full scholarship . Knee injuries ended my career early . Was a student of the game. Sorry I guess yes . Loved film study and the strategy of the game. 4th and 10 in the red zone is just not a wise gamble with that much time left , the way your defense was playing and your very good field good kicker.
- Maximum Signal

What im interested in is what happened to your head coaching career? Lemme guess you got belicheck on speed dial? Plenty of ways to handle that situation. None of which however without a doubt better than the other.
Maximum Signal
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Nov 9 @ 7:39 PM ET
What im interested in is what happened to your head coaching career? Lemme guess you got belicheck on speed dial? Plenty of ways to handle that situation. None of which however without a doubt better than the other.
- zdp1189


Went a different direction after I was done playing. Used that degree I got. Could have easily have gone into coaching actually have guys I played with coaching still. But I had other things I wanted to pursue.
Be happy to sit down with you any time and watch a game. I will tell you stuff that happened and why before the announcers get it out. I do love the game still.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 9 @ 7:54 PM ET
That decision was absolutely the wrong call. What made it worse was Moron called time and stuck with the decision. Dumb....go for a low probability play and burn a valuable TO.
With 2:20 and 3 TO's and the D playing the way they were...wow!
As a result, they then HAD TO go for another TD to win if they got the ball back.
Dumb.
That said, fumbling on the 4 yard line as your running in for TD, then fumbling a punt late in the game...Dumb and Dumber.
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