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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 5 @ 4:54 PM ET
If anyone is a huge Batman fan like me (1960's show) is it me, or does Berube look like the villain False Face?

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Nov 5 @ 4:57 PM ET
My issue is more using a guy in a role that he's ill-suited for and expecting him to play well in it. People are critical of Akeson's play this season when he's being used in a role that he's not well suited for.

All this season has told me about Jason Akeson is that he's not going to be an effective energy line player. It says absolutely nothing about his ability to be an effective third line player who can bring offense.

- Jsaquella


Yeah that too. I agree, the logic behind a lot of the criticism is suspect.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 5 @ 5:08 PM ET
Yeah that too. I agree, the logic behind a lot of the criticism is suspect.
- NickTheKid87


That's why I don't immediately buy into the whole "player isn't playing well & the coach has no option" school of thought. That's not to say Akeson has played well, because he hasn't. I get that part of it.

But here's the thing, I had a pretty good idea as far back as this summer that Akeson with Rinaldo and a player like Adam Hall or Chris VandeVelde wasn't going to be really effective.

I'd be fine with a decision in this situation where Akeson sat. It'd be to move Bellemare up to the Raffl slot and continue with VandeVelde and Rinaldo-since they have supposedly played so well-and another winger, like Jones or call up from the Phantoms, because Akeson will be ineffective there.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 5 @ 5:11 PM ET
That's why I don't immediately buy into the whole "player isn't playing well & the coach has no option" school of thought. That's not to say Akeson has played well, because he hasn't. I get that part of it.

But here's the thing, I had a pretty good idea as far back as this summer that Akeson with Rinaldo and a player like Adam Hall or Chris VandeVelde wasn't going to be really effective.

I'd be fine with a decision in this situation where Akeson sat. It'd be to move Bellemare up to the Raffl slot and continue with VandeVelde and Rinaldo-since they have supposedly played so well-and another winger, like Jones or call up from the Phantoms, because Akeson will be ineffective there.

- Jsaquella



mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 5 @ 5:20 PM ET

- ob18

He only had one good preseason game.

He could learn bad habits playing in the NHL with top professionals.

Can't play him out of position and Bellemare is the 4th line center.

No one was ever ruint playing extra time in the AHL.

Despite the current season and number of injuries it's better for the "Flyers in the long run" to patch with cast offs than bring up prospects.



shhhhh (tankadelphia)
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 5 @ 5:24 PM ET
i grew up in New Jersey that's nothing new
- 2Real

That hurts
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 5 @ 5:26 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Post-Practice Updates: Michael Raffl Out 6 Weeks, VandeVelde to Top Line
- bmeltzer


Are you (frank)in Serious?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 5 @ 5:28 PM ET
I've been busy all last evening and today, with very little time to deviate from the work I was doing. I only knew the Flyers won last night. Nothing else.

So the first time I got to check anything hockey related was just now, when I came to HB.

So, under that premise, think about what your response would be to seeing the phrase "Vandevelde to the top line."

Yep. I just said "(frank) me," and started laughing out loud
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 5 @ 5:32 PM ET
I've been busy all last evening and today, with very little time to deviate from the work I was doing. I only knew the Flyers won last night. Nothing else.

So the first time I got to check anything hockey related was just now, when I came to HB.

So, under that premise, think about what your response would be to seeing the phrase "Vandevelde to the top line."

Yep. I just said "(frank) me," and started laughing out loud

- AllInForFlyers

We've all come up with 12 players better served on the top line. Some of them Phantoms.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 5 @ 5:37 PM ET
We've all come up with 12 players better served on the top line. Some of them Phantoms.
- mayorofangrytown


WTF? Only 12? And only 12 pages in the thread? You people have absolutely been slacking today

-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Nov 5 @ 5:37 PM ET

blecccchhhhhhhhhhhh
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 5 @ 5:38 PM ET
We've all come up with 12 players better served on the top line. Some of them Phantoms.
- mayorofangrytown


13. You forgot Raffl on one leg.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 5 @ 5:41 PM ET
Love Berube's idea to put a career 4th line/AHL tweener on a line with our 2 best offensive players.

Maybe Pittsburgh can put Craig Adams on a line with Crosby and Kunitz. Or Anaheim can put Tim Jackman on a line with Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf.

- jmatchett383


This is the kind of quality sarcasm I better be reading for the rest of this thread, to the degree where everybody must be sarcasm'd out, because, again, this is the phrase I just read after nearly 19 hours of work and 4 hours of sleep:

"VandeVelde to top line"

You folks had best be making me laugh like that post
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 5 @ 5:43 PM ET
This is the kind of quality sarcasm I better be reading for the rest of this thread, to the degree where everybody must be sarcasm'd out, because, again, this is the phrase I just read after nearly 19 hours of work and 4 hours of sleep:

"VandeVelde to top line"

You folks had best be making me laugh like that post

- AllInForFlyers


.... Fleury signed an extension.

For a raise.

You're welcome.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 5:43 PM ET
13. You forgot Raffl on one leg.
- Jsaquella


That's 12 1/2 sir
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 5 @ 5:43 PM ET
13. You forgot Raffl on one leg.
- Jsaquella

"Get him a splint gods dammit! Get that man a splint and get him out there! He just has to go from point to point. That's all that line needs... a straight line player"

"Tell him to push off with the other leg then!"
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 5 @ 5:45 PM ET
That's 12 1/2 sir
- ob18


Semantics
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 5 @ 5:45 PM ET
.... Fleury signed an extension.

For a raise.

You're welcome.

- stayinthefnnet


Somebody damn well better have posted that HILARIOUS gif with all the beachballs flying past him and Brent Johnson
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 5 @ 5:48 PM ET
Somebody damn well better have posted that HILARIOUS gif with all the beachballs flying past him and Brent Johnson
- AllInForFlyers




Good times at the latest Jim Rutherford Fan Club meeting
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 5:49 PM ET
My issue is more using a guy in a role that he's ill-suited for and expecting him to play well in it. People are critical of Akeson's play this season when he's being used in a role that he's not well suited for.

All this season has told me about Jason Akeson is that he's not going to be an effective energy line player. It says absolutely nothing about his ability to be an effective third line player who can bring offense.

- Jsaquella


Not sure how that can be. Is anyone going to say that a puck battle or a race for a loose puck is different playing on the 4th line versus a scoring line?

As if Akeson is along the wall in a puck battle, and he says to himself, "hmm, I'm not suited for this 4th line role, so therefore, I can't compete for this loose puck"! "However, if I was on the 3rd line, I could get in there and mix it up! "
A puck battle on the 4th line is the same as it is on the 3rd line. Playing competitively is the same on the 4th line as it is on the 3rd line.

And trust me, Akeson is not a healthy scratch because he was expected to bring offense to the 4th line, and failed to do so. He's a healthy scratch because he hasn't competed to the same level he did last season.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 5 @ 5:49 PM ET
Recall Rosehill and put him on the first line! DO IT!
- PLindbergh31


HA!

Totally didn't see that one coming with the fervor PLind brought it with -- this is the early leader in the clubhouse

DO IT
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 5 @ 5:50 PM ET
Would rather have a catheter put in me with no lube.
- flyer_nutter



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 5:51 PM ET
That's why I don't immediately buy into the whole "player isn't playing well & the coach has no option" school of thought. That's not to say Akeson has played well, because he hasn't. I get that part of it.

But here's the thing, I had a pretty good idea as far back as this summer that Akeson with Rinaldo and a player like Adam Hall or Chris VandeVelde wasn't going to be really effective.

I'd be fine with a decision in this situation where Akeson sat. It'd be to move Bellemare up to the Raffl slot and continue with VandeVelde and Rinaldo-since they have supposedly played so well-and another winger, like Jones or call up from the Phantoms, because Akeson will be ineffective there.

- Jsaquella


Akeson isn't a healthy scratch because that line was ineffective. He's a healthy scratch because he was ineffective.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 5 @ 5:51 PM ET
Berube's (frank)ing brain dead... VDV on the top-line full-time. Kill me now.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 5 @ 5:53 PM ET


Good times at the latest Jim Rutherford Fan Club meeting

- Jsaquella



Thing is, that was in the Eastern Conference finals soooooo.... *shrug*
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