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BuffaJoe
Buffalo Sabres
Location: (frank) Lockouts, Bettman, GA
Joined: 06.24.2011

Nov 3 @ 3:08 PM ET
Ryan Miller leads the NHL with 8 wins in 9 starts.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 3 @ 3:09 PM ET
Ryan Miller leads the NHL with 8 wins in 9 starts.
- BuffaJoe

Amazing what "average" players can do on a semi decent team.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Nov 3 @ 3:10 PM ET
But then, what if our defense is absolutely worthless... Then what? are we trying to trade for Myers or someone like him in 2 years?

I honestly do not think trading Myers makes a difference in getting McDavid. Just put Benoit on the ice, and we are all set.

- thatsapickle

Trade Myers and put weber in. that helps tank.
I don't see Myers as an elite Def. He is good but with the kids I have in the system and don't expect to be good for 2 -3 years why not trade him.
If I can get a stud young winger that's an asset its good
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 3 @ 3:10 PM ET
Honestly is it worth trading Meyers ?
- jaumiller


Who Dat ?


Oh you mean Myers ?


hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Nov 3 @ 3:12 PM ET
He's not a forward. You are right, he is not elite by any stretch. However not one player on this team is or will be. Not with the way we are currently constructed.

People are losing their minds over Girgensons. The guy has 2 freaking goals.

- sbroads24

Its cool u like Myers max does too. If I can get a stud wing for McDavid I have interest
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 3 @ 3:13 PM ET
Trade Myers and put weber in. that helps tank.
I don't see Myers as an elite Def. He is good but with the kids I have in the system and don't expect to be good for 2 -3 years why not trade him.
If I can get a stud young winger that's an asset its good

- hafgod


You can tell me without any doubt Risto, Zadorov, Pysyk, McCabe, Ruhwedel. Are going to be Myers or better.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 3 @ 3:13 PM ET
Its cool u like Myers max does too. If I can get a stud wing for McDavid I have interest
- hafgod



Except, We don't have McDavid yet... Cart before the horse kind of thing.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 3 @ 3:14 PM ET
Its cool u like Myers max does too. If I can get a stud wing for McDavid I have interest
- hafgod

Has nothing to do with liking him. It's the logic behind trading a guy entering his prime. It's the same reason I have no interest in moving Ennis right now. They can be fixtures here when we are good.

Right now, you won't get fair value for roster players on this team. Only ones that should be moved are the ones that are UFA or that are definitely not in the long term plans like Cody Hodgson
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 3 @ 3:15 PM ET
Except, We don't have McDavid yet... Cart before the horse kind of thing.
- ImThatGuy

Our cart is under the horse and aint going no where.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Nov 3 @ 3:15 PM ET
Trade Myers and put weber in. that helps tank.
I don't see Myers as an elite Def. He is good but with the kids I have in the system and don't expect to be good for 2 -3 years why not trade him.
If I can get a stud young winger that's an asset its good

- hafgod



Tanking, my concern.


I have this uneasy feeling that the league is already onto us and despite finishing dead last they are going to pull some crap and say "Too bad you guys pick 6th". Then Toronto gets Mcdavid and we get to spend 8 years getting ourselves out of the hole we dug.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 3 @ 3:17 PM ET
Tanking, my concern.


I have this uneasy feeling that the league is already onto us and despite finishing dead last they are going to pull some crap and say "Too bad you guys pick 6th". Then Toronto gets Mcdavid and we get to spend 8 years getting ourselves out of the hole we dug.

- Buffalo-Sabres


That would start a whole new level of hate on them.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Nov 3 @ 3:19 PM ET
That would start a whole new level of hate on them.
- cabin



YA THINK?


My concern is getting bumped right out of Mceichel by the league. Then how many of these "Sabres fans" clamoring for the tank will still be around?
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Nov 3 @ 3:22 PM ET
Has nothing to do with liking him. It's the logic behind trading a guy entering his prime. It's the same reason I have no interest in moving Ennis right now. They can be fixtures here when we are good.

Right now, you won't get fair value for roster players on this team. Only ones that should be moved are the ones that are UFA or that are definitely not in the long term plans like Cody Hodgson

- sbroads24

Why would u not want to move Ennis.
He is a legit #2 center in this league.
My team has McEichel #1
Grigorenko or Reinhardt #2.
Girgensons is #3. Ennis by any terms will be a winger not a fourth line center.
On Def I have Risto McCabe and Zadorov. I don't have any super young wingers. Sorry armia guys. I need one. Myers for that winger works for me.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Nov 3 @ 3:22 PM ET
Tanking, my concern.


I have this uneasy feeling that the league is already onto us and despite finishing dead last they are going to pull some crap and say "Too bad you guys pick 6th". Then Toronto gets Mcdavid and we get to spend 8 years getting ourselves out of the hole we dug.

- Buffalo-Sabres

No way. We followed the rules signed free agents. Just no talent.
BuffaJoe
Buffalo Sabres
Location: (frank) Lockouts, Bettman, GA
Joined: 06.24.2011

Nov 3 @ 3:23 PM ET
YA THINK?


My concern is getting bumped right out of Mceichel by the league. Then how many of these "Sabres fans" clamoring for the tank will still be around?

- Buffalo-Sabres


We can't possibly be bumped out of both of them. I would not be surprised if we did not pick first, though. Bettman came to Buffalo for the draft announcement and said he was amazed at how many fans showed up even knowing the team was not very competitive. Read: we're a solid market whether we're good or bad that doesn't need 'fixing.' McDavid to Florida E5.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Nov 3 @ 3:28 PM ET
No way. We followed the rules signed free agents. Just no talent.
- hafgod



I hope you're right. Signing those guys at least looked good on paper.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Nov 3 @ 3:29 PM ET
We can't possibly be bumped out of both of them. I would not be surprised if we did not pick first, though. Bettman came to Buffalo for the draft announcement and said he was amazed at how many fans showed up even knowing the team was not very competitive. Read: we're a solid market whether we're good or bad that doesn't need 'fixing.' McDavid to Florida E5.
- BuffaJoe



YUUUUUPPPP


So maybe the fans should start 'tanking' too?
BuffaJoe
Buffalo Sabres
Location: (frank) Lockouts, Bettman, GA
Joined: 06.24.2011

Nov 3 @ 3:36 PM ET
YUUUUUPPPP


So maybe the fans should start 'tanking' too?

- Buffalo-Sabres


Can't. We're buoyed by all those Toronto fans that can't afford to watch a losing team at the ACC.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Nov 3 @ 3:36 PM ET
Its cool u like Myers max does too. If I can get a stud wing for McDavid I have interest
- hafgod


You don't know that he is a stud.. that is the problem.

There is even less to know about Nichuskin than there is about Myers. I would take the guy that has proven more than a guy we are just HOPING pans out.

Moulson, Grigorenko, Girgensons, Armia, Reinhart, and McDavid/Eichel is pretty solid for a top 6. I don't think we need to slash/gash our best D-Man to add another winger that we "hope" is a stud.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Nov 3 @ 3:46 PM ET
You don't know that he is a stud.. that is the problem.

There is even less to know about Nichuskin than there is about Myers. I would take the guy that has proven more than a guy we are just HOPING pans out.

Moulson, Grigorenko, Girgensons, Armia, Reinhart, and McDavid/Eichel is pretty solid for a top 6. I don't think we need to slash/gash our best D-Man to add another winger that we "hope" is a stud.

- JVince11

Grigernko McDavid Reinhart all centers
Not impressed by Armia
Girgensons is a center too
Moulson will be old by the time I am good.\
I have McCabe Risto Zadorov
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Nov 3 @ 3:47 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Sabres raise some eyebrows in beating Detroit, are 2-2-1 in last five
- Michael Pachla

2-2-1 with this pile of manure?
Fire Nolan now , it's all his fault.
Shame on him for coaching this team of garbage into having respect for one another and the organization.
Shame on him!!!!!!!!!!!!
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 3 @ 3:48 PM ET
Grigernko McDavid Reinhart all centers
Not impressed by Armia
Girgensons is a center too
Moulson will be old by the time I am good.\
I have McCabe Risto Zadorov

- hafgod

You should be. He's going to be a good one. 8 points in 8 games so far
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Nov 3 @ 3:51 PM ET
Why would u not want to move Ennis.
He is a legit #2 center in this league.
My team has McEichel #1
Grigorenko or Reinhardt #2.
Girgensons is #3. Ennis by any terms will be a winger not a fourth line center.
On Def I have Risto McCabe and Zadorov. I don't have any super young wingers. Sorry armia guys. I need one. Myers for that winger works for me.

- hafgod


what do you get for ennis if you move him? im sure that a bunch of teams would be happy to take him off of our hands and try him out on the wing, but i have a tough time seeing anybody digging deep to put together a package for him. id keep him, he doesnt take shifts off, creates space for himself- with little to no help, and isnt nearly the defensive liability that hodgson is. in a perfect world, he is nowhere near our best forward, but murray is building this the right way, and im starting to think that tyler ennis might find a spot here when its done.
BuffaJoe
Buffalo Sabres
Location: (frank) Lockouts, Bettman, GA
Joined: 06.24.2011

Nov 3 @ 3:52 PM ET
Grigernko McDavid Reinhart all centers
Not impressed by Armia
Girgensons is a center too
Moulson will be old by the time I am good.\
I have McCabe Risto Zadorov

- hafgod


It's hard to take you seriously when you say things like that. Armia's tied for 2nd on the Amerks in scoring and has looked great with Grigo so far.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Nov 3 @ 3:54 PM ET
It's hard to take you seriously when you say things like that. Armia's tied for 2nd on the Amerks in scoring and has looked great with Grigo so far.
- BuffaJoe

Tim Kennedy and Nathan Gerbe did real good down there too.
No time and space up in the big leagues.
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