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CreepyPasta
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ghost of HA's liver. #shutupJB
Joined: 10.05.2014

Oct 31 @ 11:00 AM ET

- ChetManly

Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 31 @ 11:01 AM ET
The positive thing is the Oilers have put some wins up; the pressure is off for the time being. Adding D right now is too expensive unless you put together a creative deal which is not easy either right now. A 20 min plus D will throw you into a bidding process and you will overpay. Keep on winning and wait for that right deal.
- VanHockeyGuy

This, I don't think there is reason to rush a deal. Let this team find itself. If a deal with petry could be made, do it if not try and make a trade for another dman on an expiring contract.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 31 @ 11:01 AM ET
A top dman for Edmonton doesn't necessarily meaning a top dman for the top 15 teams either. Trading for a number 2 on a solid team or even a number 3 on a REALLY deep defensive team might suit just well enough. It would have to be a solid stay at home defenseman who plays like Chelios or similar did, gritty, shutdown, checking, keep the (frank) out of my zone type guy.

Getting a Doughty, Pietrangelo, Kronwall, Chara, Keith, is not going to happen, but several teams have players like Ericsson, Hjarlmasson, Shattenkirk, Voynov (at some point), etc.. that could be had realistically with a top six player and a mix of roster players/prospects/picks.

- CreepyPasta

Yeah, I agree with that. In part, it's about perceiving which #2 guy is ready to strike out onto his own and nabbing him. It's tricky to make that evaluation though...
CreepyPasta
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ghost of HA's liver. #shutupJB
Joined: 10.05.2014

Oct 31 @ 11:02 AM ET
That would never happen. The Oilers don't need Myers, they need a solid D that you can get for a fair price. Not what you're suggesting, that's why he will remain a Sabre until the price gets workable.
- VanHockeyGuy

100% agreed. He is a second pairing dman on most team's and will be a #2 overall on most teams when he hits his prime. Not worth exactly a Mantha+ or Draisatle+
CreepyPasta
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ghost of HA's liver. #shutupJB
Joined: 10.05.2014

Oct 31 @ 11:03 AM ET
Yeah, I agree with that. In part, it's about perceiving which #2 guy is ready to strike out onto his own and nabbing him. It's tricky to make that evaluation though...
- Morris

Agreed. You guys can have Ericsson for Perron.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 31 @ 11:03 AM ET
Funny thing I am not kidding by much. Too many people are like well Myers sucks I will give you a 4th and a 7th round for him but want him to be there #1 Defensemen. No one is walking away without paying a premium for Myers. That means a Eberle, or Mantha, or A top end Prospect and a First round pick. Too many people think Myers will get sold for Peanuts and he will not be. Some 3rd liner and a 4th or 5th defensemen will not get you Myers and too many people think so.
- danwest58

too stupid to respond to.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 31 @ 11:04 AM ET
Funny thing I am not kidding by much. Too many people are like well Myers sucks I will give you a 4th and a 7th round for him but want him to be there #1 Defensemen. No one is walking away without paying a premium for Myers. That means a Eberle, or Mantha, or A top end Prospect and a First round pick. Too many people think Myers will get sold for Peanuts and he will not be. Some 3rd liner and a 4th or 5th defensemen will not get you Myers and too many people think so.
- danwest58

You wouldnt get Eberle alone for him! You can make your point without being an idiot.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:04 AM ET
Funny thing I am not kidding by much. Too many people are like well Myers sucks I will give you a 4th and a 7th round for him but want him to be there #1 Defensemen. No one is walking away without paying a premium for Myers. That means a Eberle, or Mantha, or A top end Prospect and a First round pick. Too many people think Myers will get sold for Peanuts and he will not be. Some 3rd liner and a 4th or 5th defensemen will not get you Myers and too many people think so.
- danwest58

He won't be cheap, that's why he won't get traded. I can't see anyone trading a top end Prospect and a First rounder. Especially in this draft.
danwest58
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.27.2009

Oct 31 @ 11:04 AM ET
I think you need adult supervision
- Matt_Henderson


And you are not getting Myers for a 4th 5th defensemen and a 3rd line player. You are going to pay in Top Prospects and or a 1st round draft pick like it or not. The Wings called about Myers, Buffalo said the starting point is either Nyquist, or Mantha. Wings said no. Buffalo then said well what about Larkin which is another good prospect and they didnt like that either. Why? Because they dont want to part with what it will take to get Myers. Too many teams are smoking crack if you think Myers is not going to come with 1 or 2 really good young pieces.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 31 @ 11:05 AM ET
100% agreed. He is a second pairing dman on most team's and will be a #2 overall on most teams when he hits his prime. Not worth exactly a Mantha+ or Draisatle+
- CreepyPasta

Spell Draisaitl correctly.

Myers would be our #1 dman right away.

But seriously, what does it take to get the Jet's BBC dman?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:05 AM ET
How about that Klefbom scoring at ppg pace

Iro Pakarinen is a pleasant surprise
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 31 @ 11:05 AM ET
This, I don't think there is reason to rush a deal. Let this team find itself. If a deal with petry could be made, do it if not try and make a trade for another dman on an expiring contract.
- Oilfan19

Yep, see where the team is at 20 games. Get an older D at a reasonable price that you can get 2 years out of while the prospects develop.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 31 @ 11:06 AM ET
And you are not getting Myers for a 4th 5th defensemen and a 3rd line player. You are going to pay in Top Prospects and or a 1st round draft pick like it or not. The Wings called about Myers, Buffalo said the starting point is either Nyquist, or Mantha. Wings said no. Buffalo then said well what about Larkin which is another good prospect and they didnt like that either. Why? Because they dont want to part with what it will take to get Myers. Too many teams are smoking crack if you think Myers is not going to come with 1 or 2 really good young pieces.
- danwest58

If Myer's is only available for high pieces, then he isn't going to be moved. It's pretty simple. So don't come in here with your crazy expectations that the Oilers will feed you whatever, just because they require a top pairing dman.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 31 @ 11:06 AM ET
How about that Klefbom scoring at ppg pace

Iro Pakarinen is a pleasant surprise

- ystoil

Is he really? Way to be Kleffer!
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Oct 31 @ 11:07 AM ET
I would be very open to trading Perron for a quality defenseman. Perron + Petry =???

NOTE: I like Petry, so obviously the ask would be an upgrade

- Matt_Henderson


Not a bad package, Petry is an UFA to be though. As an Habs fan, i would like to see Perron coming our way since we are still looking for a RW to play with Patches and DD. Eller Emelin for Perron Petry?
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 31 @ 11:07 AM ET
Yep, see where the team is at 20 games. Get an older D at a reasonable price that you can get 2 years out of while the prospects develop.
- VanHockeyGuy

That kind of intelligence and patience is not welcomed around these parts. That's the kind of poop that'll get you fired!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 31 @ 11:07 AM ET
And you are not getting Myers for a 4th 5th defensemen and a 3rd line player. You are going to pay in Top Prospects and or a 1st round draft pick like it or not. The Wings called about Myers, Buffalo said the starting point is either Nyquist, or Mantha. Wings said no. Buffalo then said well what about Larkin which is another good prospect and they didnt like that either. Why? Because they dont want to part with what it will take to get Myers. Too many teams are smoking crack if you think Myers is not going to come with 1 or 2 really good young pieces.
- danwest58

How about Myers for McDavid?.......hang on that won't work! LOL
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Oct 31 @ 11:07 AM ET
So what under 25 year old D would be available in a trade that may make the oilers better in the future?

Only have two that come to mind and its hard to put value on them.
Myers and Larsson
CreepyPasta
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ghost of HA's liver. #shutupJB
Joined: 10.05.2014

Oct 31 @ 11:08 AM ET
Spell Draisaitl correctly.

Myers would be our #1 dman right away.

But seriously, what does it take to get the Jet's BBC dman?

- ChetManly

Buff? Way too much. He's a defenseman and a winger who is big, gritty, smart, has a great shot, and is in the same (frank)ing division. Realistically, it'd be Draisaitl, Eberle, a top prospect and some picks.
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Oct 31 @ 11:08 AM ET
This is something with bite- should be able to fetch a decent return and we are selling high with both players for the most part- if we had a signed petry it should even sweeten the deal... If Philly is offering I would try and pry B. Schenn and Coburn with that above package and or even take just both Schenns- that way you dont have to add much... for the Coburn deal you have to add a 1st or some form of sweetener
- saskoil21

That's not a good trade for us.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 31 @ 11:08 AM ET
How about Myers for McDavid?.......hang on that won't work! LOL
- VanHockeyGuy

Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Oct 31 @ 11:09 AM ET
100% agreed. He is a second pairing dman on most team's and will be a #2 overall on most teams when he hits his prime. Not worth exactly a Mantha+ or Draisatle+
- CreepyPasta


The kid is a legit top pairing D, he just isn't playing with a top pairing partner. Buffalo never surrounded him and now he looks lost on a clueless team.
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Oct 31 @ 11:09 AM ET
If Myer's is only available for high pieces, then he isn't going to be moved. It's pretty simple. So don't come in here with your crazy expectations that the Oilers will feed you whatever, just because they require a top pairing dman.
- ChetManly


But Buffalo doesn't have to move myers so anyone getting him will have to overpay or he stays a saber. So your choice is stay bad and keep your pick and keep drafting high or make a trade in which you will overpay in any situation because everyone knows the oilers are desperate.
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Oct 31 @ 11:09 AM ET
Klefbom, Draisaitl, Petry and this year's 1st for Myers, Hodgson and Pysyk


Myers is going to be expensive. No one cares that you dont want to pay the high price for him you will have to. If you are not going to trade Eberle then you are going to pay a high price in young talent.

So that means Draisaitl and a 1st for Myers. We can throw in a 2nd line center Hodgson for Klefbom and to add a young Defensemen we will send Pysyk. Petry is a throw in.

- danwest58

Lol.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 31 @ 11:09 AM ET
Buff? Way too much. He's a defenseman and a winger who is big, gritty, smart, has a great shot, and is in the same (frank)ing division. Realistically, it'd be Draisaitl, Eberle, a top prospect and some picks.
- CreepyPasta

Perron + 2nd + rights to Horak + JB's mom (top prospect).
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