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jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Oct 31 @ 1:46 PM ET
Bogosian would be good
- Oilfan19


Idk if he is strong enough on the puck for what the oilers need is he?
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 31 @ 1:47 PM ET
Myers is a very good dman. He is still very young and will only get better. It takes alot longer for dman to become great players especially 6'8 players ( Chara perfect example). Sabres a very young team and could easily keep myers. But the sabres also have alot of high quality dman coming up so if the right deals comes they will trade him.

Edm is still young but most of their players a year two from their primes so if they were to get myers they would reach their primes together.

To get Myers they would need a trade like

Myers, Stewart and second for Yak, Kelfdom, and 1st.

It works for both teams Stewart helps bring size and consistency to wing and myers brings size and top dman they desperately need. The picks just even things out.

Sabres get young winger that is big risk but high ceiling and another young dmen.

- hanleyaj

PLease dont start this again.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 31 @ 1:48 PM ET
Idk if he is strong enough on the puck for what the oilers need is he?
- jake24242

Meh, idk its a huge upgrade on what we have (as long as he stays healthy as stated by others)
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 31 @ 1:48 PM ET
So does LA move guys this year or dump guys in the summer? Martinez, Toffoli, Pearson all set to get big raises. Williams, Stoll and Regher UFA's, but I assume they don't really want to lose those guys either.

Could be some interesting names moving there

- Lahey

Williams and Stoll are really interesting looks. Not cheap, and spending Williams money on a winger seems frivolous. In practice, it'd be the beginning of the end of one of our existing guys. And because Perron is closest to UFA, it'd likely be him. Dunno if I want to lose Perron.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 31 @ 1:48 PM ET
Here you go has a good description suppose to be in the top 5 so far this year.

http://www.draftsite.com/...r/oliver-kylington/21011/
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- jake24242

Seems decent
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Oct 31 @ 1:49 PM ET
I have a better idea. Don't talk to us at all
- ghostofRC



"not being a non bias tool" so is that like a double negative? would that not mean, the same as "talk to be when you're being a bias tool"
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 31 @ 1:49 PM ET
Myers is a very good dman. He is still very young and will only get better. It takes alot longer for dman to become great players especially 6'8 players ( Chara perfect example). Sabres a very young team and could easily keep myers. But the sabres also have alot of high quality dman coming up so if the right deals comes they will trade him.

Edm is still young but most of their players a year two from their primes so if they were to get myers they would reach their primes together.

To get Myers they would need a trade like

Myers, Stewart and second for Yak, Kelfdom, and 1st.

It works for both teams Stewart helps bring size and consistency to wing and myers brings size and top dman they desperately need. The picks just even things out.

Sabres get young winger that is big risk but high ceiling and another young dmen.

- hanleyaj

I literally just deleted you as my location. Congrats on being a complete moron.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 31 @ 1:49 PM ET
"not being a non bias tool" so is that like a double negative? would that not mean, the same as "talk to be when you're being a bias tool"
- SpoiledByOil

Drop it, its over now. Thanks for the back up though guys
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 31 @ 1:50 PM ET
Myers could be had I'd wager.
But as this convo has went, the price is too much at present.

Yandle can move the puck, qb the pp, and even tho he has some defensive flaws, he closes gaps wel and likes to engage physically.
He'd be a huge help.

Buff has his defensive warts too. Not sure if he's available.

I'd love any 1 of those. probably myers the most tho

- hugefemale dog77

I'd take all three as they are upgrades for sure, but none of them are really the ideal solution which is fine.

I do wonder if you bring Yandle in if you potential look at moving Schultz in the future?
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 31 @ 1:50 PM ET
Myers is a very good dman. He is still very young and will only get better. It takes alot longer for dman to become great players especially 6'8 players ( Chara perfect example). Sabres a very young team and could easily keep myers. But the sabres also have alot of high quality dman coming up so if the right deals comes they will trade him.

Edm is still young but most of their players a year two from their primes so if they were to get myers they would reach their primes together.

To get Myers they would need a trade like

Myers, Stewart and second for Yak, Kelfdom, and 1st.

It works for both teams Stewart helps bring size and consistency to wing and myers brings size and top dman they desperately need. The picks just even things out.

Sabres get young winger that is big risk but high ceiling and another young dmen.

- hanleyaj

Consistency is literally the biggest knock against Stewart.

I don't want Myers at that price.

If you conclude from that that we "must be just happy tanking and being losing losers until the end of time", then so be it.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 31 @ 1:51 PM ET
I would love Stolly back. Pearson is going no where but I would love him here too.
- Oilfan19

I just can't see Stoll and LA breaking up. Then again I said the samething about Brad and Jen
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 31 @ 1:51 PM ET
They probably aren't worried about loosing Regher. I still think we can get Richards at a decent price.
- ChetManly

I think we can get him for free to be honest. Not now, but after the year. The problem is will be come here?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 31 @ 1:52 PM ET
Myers is a very good dman. He is still very young and will only get better. It takes alot longer for dman to become great players especially 6'8 players ( Chara perfect example). Sabres a very young team and could easily keep myers. But the sabres also have alot of high quality dman coming up so if the right deals comes they will trade him.

Edm is still young but most of their players a year two from their primes so if they were to get myers they would reach their primes together.

To get Myers they would need a trade like

Myers, Stewart and second for Yak, Kelfdom, and 1st.

It works for both teams Stewart helps bring size and consistency to wing and myers brings size and top dman they desperately need. The picks just even things out.

Sabres get young winger that is big risk but high ceiling and another young dmen.

- hanleyaj


Lets call Myers/Yakupov a wash both have been playing good lately without the desired results

Stewart for Klef + 1st? No.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Oct 31 @ 1:52 PM ET
Consistency is literally the biggest knock against Stewart.

I don't want Myers at that price.

If you conclude from that that we "must be just happy tanking and being losing losers until the end of time", then so be it.

- Morris


Yak, Kelfbom, and 1st can get you a hell of a lot better Dman that Myers, and a pending UFA in Stewart has no value to this trade.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 31 @ 1:53 PM ET
I'd take all three as they are upgrades for sure, but none of them are really the ideal solution which is fine.

I do wonder if you bring Yandle in if you potential look at moving Schultz in the future?

- Lahey

Well, in my opinion "choosing" Schultz over Petry is the wrong choice. So if we let Petry go and somehow manage to get Yandle and Schultz, then I agree there's a bit of a multi-dimensionality problem there.

My perhaps pie in the sky preference would be to keep Petry and Schultz, get Yandle, and ditch Nikitin/Ference in favour of bringing up Klef/Nurse. Maybe we'd get pushed around too much though.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 31 @ 1:54 PM ET
Myers is a very good dman. He is still very young and will only get better. It takes alot longer for dman to become great players especially 6'8 players ( Chara perfect example). Sabres a very young team and could easily keep myers. But the sabres also have alot of high quality dman coming up so if the right deals comes they will trade him.

Edm is still young but most of their players a year two from their primes so if they were to get myers they would reach their primes together.

To get Myers they would need a trade like

Myers, Stewart and second for Yak, Kelfdom, and 1st.

It works for both teams Stewart helps bring size and consistency to wing and myers brings size and top dman they desperately need. The picks just even things out.

Sabres get young winger that is big risk but high ceiling and another young dmen.

- hanleyaj
If I'm Buffalo and I move Myers because we have kids coming up, you better get some legit proven players. All the struggles that were there with Myers aren't just not going to be there with the new crop of kids.

I wouldn't do that deal. Have no use for Stewart and that type of package especially a 2015 1st should bring us a d-man that has no questions with whether or not he can be a top d-man.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 31 @ 1:54 PM ET
I just can't see Stoll and LA breaking up. Then again I said the samething about Brad and Jen
- Lahey

ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 31 @ 1:56 PM ET
I think we can get him for free to be honest. Not now, but after the year. The problem is will be come here?
- Lahey

Well Hemsky won't be crying about it.

Who knows, all depends on the offers he is getting from other clubs.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Oct 31 @ 1:56 PM ET
Drop it, its over now. Thanks for the back up though guys
- Oilfan19



I'm genuinely asking haha
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 31 @ 1:56 PM ET
Well, in my opinion "choosing" Schultz over Petry is the wrong choice. So if we let Petry go and somehow manage to get Yandle and Schultz, then I agree there's a bit of a multi-dimensionality problem there.

My perhaps pie in the sky preference would be to keep Petry and Schultz, get Yandle, and ditch Nikitin/Ference in favour of bringing up Klef/Nurse. Maybe we'd get pushed around too much though.

- Morris

It's not that I disagree with you, but literally nothing suggests we'd keep Petry. I don't mind Niktin, overpaid but I think he can be good.

As for Ference, I want to do him for Kelly. Good way to save face,.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 31 @ 1:57 PM ET
I think we can get him for free to be honest. Not now, but after the year. The problem is will be come here?
- Lahey

If I am Edmonton, I look at Nikitin for Richards at the end of the year

1) Nikitin for one year at 4.5 is manageable even for an against the cap team.
2) Nikitin isn't bad, but he's the most moveable given the Oilers interest in Schultz, Ference and long-term signing of Fayne.
3) Assuming Petry, Schultz, Ference, Fayne and Marincin figure into the NHL future, we've got pretty decent options in the AHL to cover one of the last two spots.
4) I'd be willing to kick in a pick as a sweetener.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 31 @ 1:57 PM ET
It's not that I disagree with you, but literally nothing suggests we'd keep Petry. I don't mind Niktin, overpaid but I think he can be good.

As for Ference, I want to do him for Kelly. Good way to save face,.

- Lahey

Is this even remotely possible?
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 31 @ 1:58 PM ET
If I am Edmonton, I look at Nikitin for Richards at the end of the year

1) Nikitin for one year at 4.5 is manageable even for an against the cap team.
2) Nikitin isn't bad, but he's the most moveable given the Oilers interest in Schultz, Ference and long-term signing of Fayne.
3) Assuming Petry, Schultz, Ference, Fayne and Marincin figure into the NHL future, we've got pretty decent options in the AHL to cover one of the last two spots.
4) I'd be willing to kick in a pick as a sweetener.

- Morris

(frank) I would do it, I don't think LA would though
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 31 @ 1:59 PM ET
It's not that I disagree with you, but literally nothing suggests we'd keep Petry. I don't mind Niktin, overpaid but I think he can be good.

As for Ference, I want to do him for Kelly. Good way to save face,.

- Lahey

Yeah, there's what the fans on capgeek are mastrubating about, and then there's what the club is into.

And it seems to me the club is into ditching Petry, giving a raise to Schultz, keeping the dmen they acquired in the past two offseasons, bringing up Klefbom or Nurse, and then if I had to guess, throwing 5.25 million at Marc Staal in FA.

I'd do that Ference deal. 3C is more valuable to us right now than a (good) bottom pairing D.
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Oct 31 @ 1:59 PM ET
I'd take all three as they are upgrades for sure, but none of them are really the ideal solution which is fine.

I do wonder if you bring Yandle in if you potential look at moving Schultz in the future?

- Lahey

All 3 would be good to have. But the price for all 3 is ridiculous. Unless we get them significantly cheaper I pass.
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