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PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 30 @ 4:41 PM ET
I know Eklund's credibility for rumors is eh... But I believe there is something to Yandle and Vermette.
- Santo_44


I would do that trade too.......Kadri and Gardiner for Yandle and Vermette. No draft picks involved, however. Kadri is a decent centre, but we already have Bozak as a good number 2. Yandle would help stabilize the defense and give the powerplay a boost. We still, however, need a good first line centre and jumbo Joe, or Eric Staal isn't the answer, for what they are asking.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 30 @ 4:42 PM ET
Too bad Nonis doesn't know how. Raymond and Franson last deadline
- Aaron_85


To be fair we were in a good spot at the deadline. If he traded Franson and Raymond at the deadline we would all be sitting here blaming Nonis for missing the playoffs because he traded Raymond and Franson.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
(frank)in Dion.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
(frank)in Dion.
- Woderwick


Who is that? Gardiner getting mentored by Dion, Franson and Robidas?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
I would do that trade too.......Kadri and Gardiner for Yandle and Vermette. No draft picks involved, however. Kadri is a decent centre, but we already have Bozak as a good number 2. Yandle would help stabilize the defense and give the powerplay a boost. We still, however, need a good first line centre and jumbo Joe, or Eric Staal isn't the answer, for what they are asking.
- PrinceLH


I agree I would have no hesitation trading for that package of Vermette and Yandle. Arizona would love to get Kadri.

Part of me wants us to go out and get Thornton or Staal but another part of me dosnt. If they were both 26 them again I would have no hesitation.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Oct 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
I would do that trade too.......Kadri and Gardiner for Yandle and Vermette. No draft picks involved, however. Kadri is a decent centre, but we already have Bozak as a good number 2. Yandle would help stabilize the defense and give the powerplay a boost. We still, however, need a good first line centre and jumbo Joe, or Eric Staal isn't the answer, for what they are asking.
- PrinceLH

Don't trade Kadri. Yandle would be nice but not at that cost. Kadri played well last game and overall he probably played better than people expected him to so far in his career. Bozak isn't as good as Kadri so they'd be downgrading the second line.. (frank) that.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 30 @ 4:46 PM ET
Who is that? Gardiner getting mentored by Dion, Franson and Robidas?
- PrinceLH


Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 30 @ 4:48 PM ET
Who is that? Gardiner getting mentored by Dion, Franson and Robidas?
- PrinceLH

There are so many options.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 30 @ 4:50 PM ET
Don't trade Kadri. Yandle would be nice but not at that cost. Kadri played well last game and overall he probably played better than people expected him to so far in his career. Bozak isn't as good as Kadri so they'd be downgrading the second line.. (frank) that.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


Kadri has a lot of potential. There is no doubt about that. I think his ceiling is a skilled number 1/2 center. Vermette can be a 50 pt player easily. Not only that but he can win faceoffs and play well defensively. Yandle is a great Defensmen. I don't think he gets enough credit for his defensive work.

I would do it.
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Oct 30 @ 4:50 PM ET
Why did we recall Percy? Back to 7D?
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Oct 30 @ 4:51 PM ET
Kadri has a lot of potential. There is no doubt about that. I think his ceiling is a skilled number 1/2 center. Vermette can be a 50 pt player easily. Not only that but he can win faceoffs and play well defensively. Yandle is a great Defensmen. I don't think he gets enough credit for his defensive work.

I would do it.

- Santo_44



I would as well, but AZ prob not. How much longer is Yandle locked in for?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 30 @ 4:51 PM ET
Why did we recall Percy? Back to 7D?
- iTOLDu


I don't think so. I think He will go in and either Robidas or Polak will sit. I would say sit Franson but we shouldn't do anything to bring down his value.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 30 @ 4:53 PM ET
Eric Staal will not waive his NTC.

He had discussions with Peter Karmanos, Ron Francis and Don Waddell over the summer and discussed his future as well as the future of the club.

He has publicly said that unless there is new ownership that wants to change the direction of the team, he doesn't want to leave.

Peter Karmanos wants him on the team. Francis wants him on the team (we think), Eric Staal wants to stay on the team.

He's not being traded.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Oct 30 @ 4:53 PM ET
I would do that trade too.......Kadri and Gardiner for Yandle and Vermette. No draft picks involved, however. Kadri is a decent centre, but we already have Bozak as a good number 2. Yandle would help stabilize the defense and give the powerplay a boost. We still, however, need a good first line centre and jumbo Joe, or Eric Staal isn't the answer, for what they are asking.
- PrinceLH


If the deal could be done like this...

Vermette+Yandle for Kadri, Franson and 2016 2nd rounder

Thornton for Gardiner+Holland and 2015 first rounder (protected top 10)

I'd be all over it. Doubt those deals get done so easily though.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 30 @ 4:53 PM ET
I would as well, but AZ prob not. How much longer is Yandle locked in for?
- iTOLDu


He's a UFA in 2016-2017. I think Arizona would do Kadri and a pick for that package. They are desperate for a young skilled player like Kadri.
Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You're the fukin best Bellows!
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 30 @ 4:53 PM ET
Kadri has a lot of potential. There is no doubt about that. I think his ceiling is a skilled number 1/2 center. Vermette can be a 50 pt player easily. Not only that but he can win faceoffs and play well defensively. Yandle is a great Defensmen. I don't think he gets enough credit for his defensive work.

I would do it.

- Santo_44


his defense would go to shiit under randy just like everyone else
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Oct 30 @ 4:54 PM ET
Kadri has a lot of potential. There is no doubt about that. I think his ceiling is a skilled number 1/2 center. Vermette can be a 50 pt player easily. Not only that but he can win faceoffs and play well defensively. Yandle is a great Defensmen. I don't think he gets enough credit for his defensive work.

I would do it.

- Santo_44

People always talk about the Detroit model.

There's some truth to the theory that holding onto your homegrown talent pays off. Leaf have none because everytime someone starts to get good they (frank)ing trade him. So no. Let's grow out draftees. Don't touch any of them.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 30 @ 4:54 PM ET
I don't think so. I think He will go in and either Robidas or Polak will sit. I would say sit Franson but we shouldn't do anything to bring down his value.
- Santo_44

Franson was the bomb against Buffalo (the good kind).

Let's see if he'll be the bomb against Columbus (the bad kind).
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 30 @ 4:54 PM ET
I would as well, but AZ prob not. How much longer is Yandle locked in for?
- iTOLDu


They still have OEL.....so maybe they see it as a salary dump. Kadri's bridge contract ends this year, so we have to pay him! Gardiner? He could turn out to be really good, but he could turn out to be one dimensional. So the odds are, one up and one down. One of the two will probably not reach their potential. You know what you get with Yandle and Vermette. Besides? If things go bad, Yandle is a great bargaining chip for a future trade, if need be.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 30 @ 4:54 PM ET
his defense would go to shiit under randy just like everyone else
- Sammich


Vermette is who would help us the most defensively. IMO
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Oct 30 @ 4:55 PM ET
Eric Staal will not waive his NTC.

He had discussions with Peter Karmanos, Ron Francis and Don Waddell over the summer and discussed his future as well as the future of the club.

He has publicly said that unless there is new ownership that wants to change the direction of the team, he doesn't want to leave.

Peter Karmanos wants him on the team. Francis wants him on the team (we think), Eric Staal wants to stay on the team.

He's not being traded.

- BINGO!

Ya well, a lot of people say a lot of things.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Oct 30 @ 4:56 PM ET
To be fair we were in a good spot at the deadline. If he traded Franson and Raymond at the deadline we would all be sitting here blaming Nonis for missing the playoffs because he traded Raymond and Franson.
- Santo_44


We were in a good spot at the deadline. However as a GM you should properly assess your team. Were/are the Leafs an actual cup contender? No. So selling off assets like Raymond and Franson (Or at least one of them) can be sold to the fan base as continue to stock the cupboards as we are building for a contender not the playoff bubble.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 30 @ 4:57 PM ET
Vermette is who would help us the most defensively. IMO
- Santo_44

He would, until he realizes what Randy wants them to do...by the way, what does Randy want them to do?
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Oct 30 @ 4:57 PM ET
If the deal could be done like this...

Vermette+Yandle for Kadri, Franson and 2016 2nd rounder

Thornton for Gardiner+Holland and 2015 first rounder (protected top 10)

I'd be all over it. Doubt those deals get done so easily though.

- Aaron_85



That take Leafs straight to contender?

Kessel-Thorton-JVR
Lupul-Bozak-Clarkson
Santo-Vermette-Leivo
Komagod-Carrick-Winnik

Phaneuf-Yandle
Rielly-Robidas
Percy-? (Granberg)

hmmm..still not there
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 30 @ 4:58 PM ET
Ya well, a lot of people say a lot of things.
- Arctic_AARDVARK



And a lot of people don't get paid $9 million dollars to live and play hockey in North Carolina.
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