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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 30 @ 10:09 PM ET
As someone who didn't expect a whole lot this season for the Flyers, I'm very happy with a 4-4-2 run through a really rough stretch, and honestly, they have been in every game, except the Chicago game, with a chance to win in the third or OT/Shootout.
- Jsaquella


The injuries have hurt their depth. Their specials teams top units are both very good, but there is a significant fall off after them.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:09 PM ET
As someone who didn't expect a whole lot this season for the Flyers, I'm very happy with a 4-4-2 run through a really rough stretch, and honestly, they have been in every game, except the Chicago game, with a chance to win in the third or OT/Shootout.
- Jsaquella
doubting Thomas
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:09 PM ET
As someone who didn't expect a whole lot this season for the Flyers, I'm very happy with a 4-4-2 run through a really rough stretch, and honestly, they have been in every game, except the Chicago game, with a chance to win in the third or OT/Shootout.
- Jsaquella

Absolutely. The boys came to play this month

That doesn't change the fact that I'm furious though
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:10 PM ET
flyers played well. bummed it was a loss though
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 30 @ 10:10 PM ET
No, it's really not, because that type of change happens 30 times a game
- Giroux_Is_God


It does, but the problem was that Raffl jumped out on the ice early, and gained an advantage by getting open on rush down the wing that would of led to a scoring chance. That's why they called it. Tough call at that time of the game.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:11 PM ET
Absolutely. The boys came to play this month

That doesn't change the fact that I'm furious though

- Giroux_Is_God

They have to play in May.... By the bay... To eat some hay... They just may... Wouldn't you say?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:11 PM ET
Absolutely. The boys came to play this month

That doesn't change the fact that I'm furious though

- Giroux_Is_God


Factor in the injuries and the fact that the PK has been bad and it's pretty impressive
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:11 PM ET
bottom line the Flyers cannot beat the Lightning, Devils or Rangers
- vejim

I feel more confident in beating the Rangers now, as long as we play them at home.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:12 PM ET
The injuries have hurt their depth. Their specials teams top units are both very good, but there is a significant fall off after them.
- PhillySportsGuy


The PK has struggled this season. They're definitely missing the injured guys, badly.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:12 PM ET
I feel more confident in beating the Rangers now, as long as we play them at home.
- JAKEw1234

And as long as they all have bullet wounds?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:12 PM ET
Frank the refs. Disgusting.
- Pixote Andolini


popped on to see if anyone else is as ticked off as i am...

hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:13 PM ET
I feel more confident in beating the Rangers now, as long as we play them at home.
- JAKEw1234

as long as we get the top shelf officiating like we got tonight we'll be fine
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Oct 30 @ 10:13 PM ET
Man, I think back to that 2 on 1 with G and Jake and Vorcek shanked that wide open net. Oh well.

Great effort and aside from the opening minutes of the first, they really battled well and had their chances. Too many men was a BS call but nothing as bad as the G penatly for holding. That was a sure fire 5 on 3 that they could have taken advantage of.

It's bad enough playing on the road, but when you have to play against the refs as well, damn near impossible to get a win.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 30 @ 10:13 PM ET
flyers played well. bummed it was a loss though
- moylander

the first period was ugly, they picked up their game after that
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:14 PM ET
Never change, Joe.
- feelingkettle



or, do


either way
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:14 PM ET
popped on to see if anyone else is as ticked off as i am...


- -davies-

I have said thise plenty times... The refs are like the weather; you can't control it so don't bother getting upset
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 30 @ 10:15 PM ET
The PK has struggled this season. They're definitely missing the injured guys, badly.
- Jsaquella


Yeah and having a 2nd PP unit with Schultz on it is pretty poopty too. The 2nd PP unit is a train wreck right now.

I think one positive to come from this has been the play of MDZ. I wouldn't mind seeing him with Coburn when he returns
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:15 PM ET
Man, I think back to that 2 on 1 with G and Jake and Vorcek shanked that wide open net. Oh well.

Great effort and aside from the opening minutes of the first, they really battled well and had their chances. Too many men was a BS call but nothing as bad as the G penatly for holding. That was a sure fire 5 on 3 that they could have taken advantage of.

It's bad enough playing on the road, but when you have to play against the refs as well, damn near impossible to get a win.

- Pelle31Forever


the rinaldo one was the worst imo

don't you dare gently bump boyle from the side, that's apparently a no no
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:15 PM ET
It does, but the problem was that Raffl jumped out on the ice early, and gained an advantage by getting open on rush down the wing that would of led to a scoring chance. That's why they called it. Tough call at that time of the game.
- MJL

I can see why they called it. I do. PEB was lazy getting off, and Raffl jumped off and generated a potentially damaging rush right away. Was it too many men? Ok, maybe it was.

But here's the thing.

That's a call that's never made. 85% of changes in an NHL game are too many men on the ice penalties. They only really call the penalty when it's completely obvious. As in, we're here watching the TV and see like 16 players hopping over the boards for the other team, and you go "uhmmmmmmmmmmm"....those are the too many men calls that get made. I'll guarantee you no TB fan was yelling for TMM on that play. And that's ignoring the fact that this tick tack call was with 5 minutes left in the game. Kidding me?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 30 @ 10:15 PM ET
The ones by that guy Stamkos?
- feelingkettle

stammer what a piker
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:16 PM ET
Yeah and having a 2nd PP unit with Schultz on it is pretty poopty too. The 2nd PP unit is a train wreck right now.

I think one positive to come from this has been the play of MDZ. I wouldn't mind seeing him with Coburn when he returns

- PhillySportsGuy


he is still lacking confidence to shoot but everything else honestly to me seems to be improving
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:16 PM ET
the first period was ugly, they picked up their game after that
- Marc D

:||
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:17 PM ET
or, do


either way

- -davies-

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 30 @ 10:19 PM ET
I can see why they called it. I do. PEB was lazy getting off, and Raffl jumped off and generated a potentially damaging rush right away. Was it too many men? Ok, maybe it was.

But here's the thing.

That's a call that's never made. 85% of changes in an NHL game are too many men on the ice penalties. They only really call the penalty when it's completely obvious. As in, we're here watching the TV and see like 16 players hopping over the boards for the other team, and you go "uhmmmmmmmmmmm"....those are the too many men calls that get made. I'll guarantee you no TB fan was yelling for TMM on that play. And that's ignoring the fact that this tick tack call was with 5 minutes left in the game. Kidding me?

- Giroux_Is_God


it was (frank)ing GARBAGE. fact.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 30 @ 10:19 PM ET
I can see why they called it. I do. PEB was lazy getting off, and Raffl jumped off and generated a potentially damaging rush right away. Was it too many men? Ok, maybe it was.

But here's the thing.

That's a call that's never made. 85% of changes in an NHL game are too many men on the ice penalties. They only really call the penalty when it's completely obvious. As in, we're here watching the TV and see like 16 players hopping over the boards for the other team, and you go "uhmmmmmmmmmmm"....those are the too many men calls that get made. I'll guarantee you no TB fan was yelling for TMM on that play. And that's ignoring the fact that this tick tack call was with 5 minutes left in the game. Kidding me?

- Giroux_Is_God


If it wouldn't have resulted in a scoring chance, they wouldn't have called it. But they can't allow a scoring chance in a tie game in the 3rd period to come from a player cheating coming off the bench early. If Bellemare had jumped off quicker, maybe they get away with it.
It's a tough call at that time of the game, but I think it was the right call.
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