Nice stretch for the Leafs before the next Buffalo game. This should be interesting. Varying mix of opponents.
Jackets
Hawks
Coyotes
Avalanche
Rangers
Senators
Bruins
Penguins
- Woderwick

And they wont win 2 of the 8 Book It !!! ...

And they wont win 2 of the 8 Book It !!! ...
- toneez

D-

Back to troll school

Colin for goodness sakes it was the Amerks , that Buffalo sent out there barely any real NHL' ers , there is no silver lining Colin, the Leafs are a bad team have been for the last decade or so and really, being a person who is supposed to know a little about hockey, do you think that will change with the players they have now , they have no heart and no pride to wear that jersey or they would be trying to win games instead of giving excuses and being fat and out of shape ...
- toneez

Never go full stupid

Never go full stupid
- Feeling Glucky?

He's just a troll and you know how I treat trolls.

He's just a troll and you know how I treat trolls.
- LeafMan

IS this the general consensus from around the league by most fans?

From Mike Zeisberger of the Toronto Sun: "In order not to enrage our friends on the other side of the Peace Bridge, let’s make one thing clear — we have far too much respect for the Buffalo organization to suggest that they are losing on purpose.

"But man, the optics surrounding this once-proud franchise certainly are so bad, there surely will be allegations from the outside that, yes, that’s exactly what they are doing.

IS this the general consensus from around the league by most fans?

From Mike Zeisberger of the Toronto Sun: "In order not to enrage our friends on the other side of the Peace Bridge, let’s make one thing clear — we have far too much respect for the Buffalo organization to suggest that they are losing on purpose.

"But man, the optics surrounding this once-proud franchise certainly are so bad, there surely will be allegations from the outside that, yes, that’s exactly what they are doing.
- ImThatGuy

I don't think the players are losing on purpose. I think management just assembled a roster that is so bad that its just not possible to win.

The players are demoralized.

IS this the general consensus from around the league by most fans?

From Mike Zeisberger of the Toronto Sun: "In order not to enrage our friends on the other side of the Peace Bridge, let’s make one thing clear — we have far too much respect for the Buffalo organization to suggest that they are losing on purpose.

"But man, the optics surrounding this once-proud franchise certainly are so bad, there surely will be allegations from the outside that, yes, that’s exactly what they are doing.
- ImThatGuy

They sure sucked at losing on purpose to SJ on the weekend. Is it not possible they just plain suck - look at that roster - Moulson and Ennis are the biggest offensive threats. If Buff is losing on purpose, what's Carolina doing?

IS this the general consensus from around the league by most fans?

From Mike Zeisberger of the Toronto Sun: "In order not to enrage our friends on the other side of the Peace Bridge, let’s make one thing clear — we have far too much respect for the Buffalo organization to suggest that they are losing on purpose.

"But man, the optics surrounding this once-proud franchise certainly are so bad, there surely will be allegations from the outside that, yes, that’s exactly what they are doing.
- ImThatGuy

Like he said the optics look really bad. Again to avoid this the NHL must give equal chance at the top pick for all non playoff teams, no one team should have an advantage in the draft lottery. Each pick is randomly drawn.

I don't think the players are losing on purpose. I think management just assembled a roster that is so bad that its just not possible to win.

The players are demoralized.
- twiztedmike

Furthermore I'd like to add that constant losing in Buffalo will creating a losing culture. That is hard to shake. See the Leafs. The roster has improved so much on paper but sometimes you have to shake your head at the ways they manage to lose.

See Edmonton too. So many talented players yet they can't win.

Buffalo should be concerned about their youth development and they need to shelter their young players with veterans and real professionals

Furthermore I'd like to add that constant losing in Buffalo will creating a losing culture. That is hard to shake. See the Leafs. The roster has improved so much on paper but sometimes you have to shake your head at the ways they manage to lose.

See Edmonton too. So many talented players yet they can't win.

Buffalo should be concerned about their youth development and they need to shelter their young players with veterans and real professionals
- twiztedmike

Most of the players that are on this roster currently are fill-ins while the prospects mature in Rochester. My only wish is guys like Zadorov and Reinhart could go down and play in the AHL, but cannot with this stupid CHL transfer rule.

Furthermore I'd like to add that constant losing in Buffalo will creating a losing culture. That is hard to shake. See the Leafs. The roster has improved so much on paper but sometimes you have to shake your head at the ways they manage to lose.

See Edmonton too. So many talented players yet they can't win.

Buffalo should be concerned about their youth development and they need to shelter their young players with veterans and real professionals
- twiztedmike

I don't follow Buffalo at all, but are they not keeping many of their top prospects down in the AHL...I will be very surprised if Reinhart sticks, last night was likely his last NHL game this year.

I don't think the players are losing on purpose. I think management just assembled a roster that is so bad that its just not possible to win.

The players are demoralized.
- twiztedmike

thats right..players dont lose games on purpose

Murray just puts a team out there that just cant win most night. moves like acquiring Jorges .. you know toughness and leadership moves that optically look like you are trying....but doesnt help you win

thats right..players dont lose games on purpose

Murray just puts a team out there that just cant win most night. moves like acquiring Jorges .. you know toughness and leadership moves that optically look like you are trying....but doesnt help you win
- senstroll

nice of them to potentially destroy a veteran player's career...good luck finding the needed veteran depth down the road when needed.

Most of the players that are on this roster currently are fill-ins while the prospects mature in Rochester. My only wish is guys like Zadorov and Reinhart could go down and play in the AHL, but cannot with this stupid CHL transfer rule.
- ImThatGuy

Grigs too, even though he's a bit older. Agreed that they should let 19 year olds play in the AHL.

nice of them to potentially destroy a veteran player's career...good luck finding the needed veteran depth down the road when needed.
- vermie22

Gorges could have had his career ruined here instead, but refused. He can lie in the bed he made.

Hey Leafman - is it safe to come in here?

Furthermore I'd like to add that constant losing in Buffalo will creating a losing culture. That is hard to shake. See the Leafs. The roster has improved so much on paper but sometimes you have to shake your head at the ways they manage to lose.

See Edmonton too. So many talented players yet they can't win.

Buffalo should be concerned about their youth development and they need to shelter their young players with veterans and real professionals
- twiztedmike

I thinks thats crap... draft an elite talent like Crosby or Mcdavid and that all goes away
Pittsburgh had 4 seasons in a row of total points of 69 65 58 58
they were fine

so far Buffalo will be 89, 82, 52 and 35-40?

nice of them to potentially destroy a veteran player's career...good luck finding the needed veteran depth down the road when needed.
- vermie22

I am sure he will be fine with his millions he makes

Buffalo will be fine once they get pick #1 or #2 this draft

So I bench Bernier he gets a shutout?

(frank) this.

Gorges could have had his career ruined here instead, but refused. He can lie in the bed he made.
- 1979AD

oh, I don't feel sorry for him, just the optics it creates to the rest of the league. Might cause problems for them later when trying to sign UFA's or get players to waive NTC etc. But if they do get McDavid, and he lives up the hype..he might be a big enough draw to those same players.. so who knows. I just sucks for fans of Buffalo and their nightly opponents to watch that crap.

So I bench Bernier he gets a shutout?

(frank) this.
- Scabeh

You bench a goalie playing the Sabres. Real smart.

So I bench Bernier he gets a shutout?

(frank) this.
- Scabeh

benched vs buff? cmon you should know better than that.

I thinks thats crap... draft an elite talent like Crosby or Mcdavid and that all goes away
Pittsburgh had 4 seasons in a row of total points of 69 65 58 58
they were fine

so far Buffalo will be 89, 82, 52 and 35-40?
- senstroll

A change in management can shake things up as well.

Habs really benefited from the coach/GM changes because it wasn't just about hockey move, but the way the organization acted and saw things was completely different.

I thinks thats crap... draft an elite talent like Crosby or Mcdavid and that all goes away
Pittsburgh had 4 seasons in a row of total points of 69 65 58 58
they were fine

so far Buffalo will be 89, 82, 52 and 35-40?
- senstroll

Drafting a generational talent obviously helps move things along, that said, teams the draft or assemble through the middle of the ice (centres) are the teams that have the greatest success.

Obviously you need goaltending and defence but that depth up the middle is the only way to go.