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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
So in theory, if a team went 0-0-82 they would be .500? They would have 82 out of a possible 164 points.
- PLindbergh31

...and have lost every game and have a losing record. Fact.

I'm only using facts today people. Just facts.

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 29 @ 1:30 PM ET
500
(also known as .500) 50% or even. Refers to points earned. It is a percentage of points earned in relation to the number of points available. Thus, with a record of 1-1-1 (wins-losses-ties/extra time losses) a team is 500, even though they have 1 win and two losses. They have earned 3 of a possible 6 points.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ssary_of_ice_hockey_terms

Irrefutable source.

- jmatchett383

That page is well below .500 as far as terms with sources cited
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 29 @ 1:30 PM ET
To me, a loss is a loss. The NHL has spent a ton of time in the last 10 yrs talking about having a winner in every game. If you have a winner in every game guess what you also have? A Loser.

"Hey, did you guys win?"
"No."
"Oh, sorry you lost"
"We didn't lose."
"I thought you said you didn't win?"
"We didn't but we didn't lose either. It was OT."
"Wait. What was the final score?"
"4-3 for them."
"So you lost?"
"No. we got a point."
"But you lost."
"No! We're .500 man!!!!"
"But you only played one game."
"STFU!!!! I hate you!!!"
"Sorry you lost."

- mayorofangrytown

a loss is a loss no matter how the spin doctors want to try
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 29 @ 1:31 PM ET
...and have lost every game and have a losing record. Fact.

I'm only using facts today people. Just facts.


- mayorofangrytown


Just the facts!

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 29 @ 1:31 PM ET

- PLindbergh31

god theyre cool.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 29 @ 1:31 PM ET
That page is well below .500 as far as terms with sources cited
- BulliesPhan87

You cant even count good because you went to Chichester High
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 29 @ 1:31 PM ET
You are the one who is inaccurate, and we went thru all this last year.

.500 in the NHL refers to Points Percentage.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/te...ointPctg&viewName=summary

- Feanor

We'll go through it again next season so you might want to book mark this page.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 29 @ 1:31 PM ET
So... when are people going to realize that the "T" in OTL doesn't stand for Tie and the "L" actually stands for Loss?

"The Flyers now find themselves one game over .500."

no.

"Somehow, some way, the Flyers (4-3-2) will crawl out of a once-horrifying October riddled with land mines and injuries guaranteed at least a .500 record. They can be as many as two games over even with a victory in Tampa Bay tomorrow night."

no.

Even if you go by pts. they have 10 and have given up 12.

I'm stunned that they're getting out of October with at least 10 pts but accuracy folks, accuracy.

- mayorofangrytown


I would like to agree with this because I agree in principle but the fact that 1 point is given means that it is somewhere between a win and a lose.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 29 @ 1:31 PM ET
You know the Flyers have a win streak going when the usual suspects have to fall back on female doging about how the NHL points system works.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 29 @ 1:32 PM ET
I would disagree with that. NHL standings are based on points. So it only makes sense to look at a team in terms of points. And that's using the same system that the League uses.
- MJL

Well until you show me an NHL, IIHF, or other authoritative hockey organization's rules and regulations specifically defining .500 status, you're arguing the definition of an unofficial descriptor. Pure opinion.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 29 @ 1:32 PM ET
god theyre cool.
- stayinthefnnet


Good players. Can't deny that.

7 unanswered last night? You must have been in a frenzy!
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
god theyre cool.
- stayinthefnnet


Please define 'cool'
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
No lets pick them apart with what we don't like and want changed
- ob18


Really solid effort last night. I was shocked at how well they played. Emery has been hot of late, but the D played well IMO. Grossman, Shultz, Ghost, Schenn.. Voracek was an absolute monster out there. If he can bring that more often, look out.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
You cant even count good because you went to Chichester High
- jak521

(citation needed)

(youarewrong)
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 29 @ 1:36 PM ET
Really solid effort last night. I was shocked at how well they played. Emery has been hot of late, but the D played well IMO. Grossman, Shultz, Ghost, Schenn.. Voracek was an absolute monster out there. If he can bring that more often, look out.
- Hextall271

I'm not going to be able to post Tankadelphia again am I?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 29 @ 1:36 PM ET
If the existence of a points% column on NHL.com definitively proves .500 is based on points, then NHL teams are definitively on a winning streak after one win.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 29 @ 1:36 PM ET
Really solid effort last night. I was shocked at how well they played. Emery has been hot of late, but the D played well IMO. Grossman, Shultz, Ghost, Schenn.. Voracek was an absolute monster out there. If he can bring that more often, look out.
- Hextall271


3rd-period was the most impressive one they've played thus far, IMO. Unlike the first, the Kings were bringing it, and they managed to keep pace w/ them throughout.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 29 @ 1:36 PM ET
Wikipedia is made by people. People are flawed.

FACT.

- mayorofangrytown


Wikipedia is therefore the bible.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 1:37 PM ET
We'll go through it again next season so you might want to book mark this page.

- mayorofangrytown



Now we are in agreement.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 29 @ 1:37 PM ET
Wikipedia is therefore the bible.
- jmatchett383

Also a fact.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 29 @ 1:37 PM ET
Also a fact.
- mayorofangrytown


Jesus was a real person. Fact.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
If the existence of a points% column on NHL.com definitively proves .500 is based on points, then NHL teams are definitively on a winning streak after one win.
- BulliesPhan87

So the Flyers current streak is equivalent to taking two Viagra's, downing a six-pack of 8 hour energies, and then walking around in sweatpants (sans underwear) in a shopping mall?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
Now we are in agreement.
- MJL

Did you know they play on ice. Really. Ice. How about that?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
Well until you show me an NHL, IIHF, or other authoritative hockey organization's rules and regulations specifically defining .500 status, you're arguing the definition of an unofficial descriptor. Pure opinion.
- BulliesPhan87



It's not pure opinion. Rather just arbitrarily choosing whatever I want to choose to determine if a team is at .500 or not. I'm using the official NHL standings to do so.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
Jesus was a real person. Fact.
- jmatchett383

I had a beer with one on Saturday. Fact.
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