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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 29 @ 8:57 AM ET
Thompson is a great minor league coach.. Perfect for out prospect
- Dan Petriw

I didnt see anything from him when he was with us that would make me want him coaching our prospects. Worst pk and defense I've seen maybe in my life. What exactly makes him "perfect for our prospects"?
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Oct 29 @ 9:15 AM ET
bailey isn't a first line winger, frankly, his usual play last year didn't even make him an NHL player period.
- Isles_since_6

The question is: would you rather have Bailey or Conacher in the lineup? The lesser of two evils is Bailey. I can't believe I'm writing this, but he might be the best candidate to play with JT and KO. When he gets back they should try it. At least Bailey will give that line someone who can play strong "D". For all their offense, JT and KO play miserably in their own end.

Tough loss last night. I know majors are hard to kill off, but this team's PK is morbidly bad. They can't seem to stop anyone from scoring. I don't know what the answer is right now. Grabs and Bailey coming back will help, but I think its system as much as it is personnel at this point.

Halak has been real pedestrian so far, minus his performance in the Ranger game. I'm not overly concerned about him, as he's proven he can play at a high level in the NHL. But it would be great if it were to show up soon. Until then, we might have to go with Johnson.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Oct 29 @ 9:18 AM ET
If he is let go (which is a big if) Weight or Thompson would get the job. I don't think that's much of an improvement.
- JimmyP

If they change coaches, going to a guy like Weight, with no experience or Thompson, who is at best an AHL coach, would make no sense. This team is ready for a serious coach with a proven track record. There are guys out there looking for work that have won in the NHL. Better to bring someone with a track record of success in than to roll the dice with the internal options.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Oct 29 @ 9:36 AM ET
I didnt see anything from him when he was with us that would make me want him coaching our prospects. Worst pk and defense I've seen maybe in my life. What exactly makes him "perfect for our prospects"?
- Cptmjl



He has been nothing but successful in the minor leagues. Come watch him run a practice.. You would be pleased. I don't want him coaching the big club but I think he is exactly where he should be and should have never been promoted off from bport a few years ago
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 29 @ 9:37 AM ET
0-1 at games attended so far. Hooray.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Oct 29 @ 9:43 AM ET
If they change coaches, going to a guy like Weight, with no experience or Thompson, who is at best an AHL coach, would make no sense. This team is ready for a serious coach with a proven track record. There are guys out there looking for work that have won in the NHL. Better to bring someone with a track record of success in than to roll the dice with the internal options.
- Jethro09



One thing I hope in regards to these new owners is that Wang will see them as equals, and if they have other friends throughout the NHL, and watch this nonsense on the nights it is total nonsense, they might be inclined to make a suggestion or two in terms of hiring a real coach, as opposed to promoting what's already here. The one problem with letting the GM be the only one in the room with the boss is that he (naturally) is going to hire people with whom he is comfortable (specifically, people he doesn't think are going to end up with his job). That kind of management is what got us saddled with Milbury for WAY too long, and it needs to end. If there's one thing these guys change, I hope it's that.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 29 @ 9:44 AM ET
The question is: would you rather have Bailey or Conacher in the lineup? The lesser of two evils is Bailey. I can't believe I'm writing this, but he might be the best candidate to play with JT and KO. When he gets back they should try it. At least Bailey will give that line someone who can play strong "D". For all their offense, JT and KO play miserably in their own end.

Tough loss last night. I know majors are hard to kill off, but this team's PK is morbidly bad. They can't seem to stop anyone from scoring. I don't know what the answer is right now. Grabs and Bailey coming back will help, but I think its system as much as it is personnel at this point.

Halak has been real pedestrian so far, minus his performance in the Ranger game. I'm not overly concerned about him, as he's proven he can play at a high level in the NHL. But it would be great if it were to show up soon. Until then, we might have to go with Johnson.

- Jethro09


That wasn't what I said. I have no problem with Bailey on the third line the way he's played, but he's not a fit for the top line. Drop Conacher, move Bailey back in on the third line and put either Kulemin or grabovski on the top line. Scratch Conacher.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 29 @ 9:45 AM ET
If they change coaches, going to a guy like Weight, with no experience or Thompson, who is at best an AHL coach, would make no sense. This team is ready for a serious coach with a proven track record. There are guys out there looking for work that have won in the NHL. Better to bring someone with a track record of success in than to roll the dice with the internal options.
- Jethro09

Crawford.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 29 @ 9:49 AM ET
If they change coaches, going to a guy like Weight, with no experience or Thompson, who is at best an AHL coach, would make no sense. This team is ready for a serious coach with a proven track record. There are guys out there looking for work that have won in the NHL. Better to bring someone with a track record of success in than to roll the dice with the internal options.
- Jethro09


I agree with you. Everyone here agrees with you. I don't think it will happen this year.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Oct 29 @ 10:06 AM ET
Crawford
- Isles_since_6



I've heard some things about him being a guy who doesn't get along with players as well as one might prefer, but you can't deny his record. To at least bring a guy like him in for a couple of years to establish discipline and sort out the defensive disarray would be a vast improvement.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 29 @ 10:09 AM ET
I agree with you. Everyone here agrees with you. I don't think it will happen this year.
- JimmyP


Snow has made it a point to say many times..."last year was one me"... alluding to the fact that this year is Solely on the coach. If they do not win 3 of 6 on this trip I would wager a lot of money that Cap is gone.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Oct 29 @ 10:09 AM ET
I agree with you. Everyone here agrees with you. I don't think it will happen this year.
- JimmyP



I figure Weight or Cronin will get the job on at least an interim basis, if he is actually fired...as I said, I'm just hoping these new guys start to let Wang know some of their thoughts during this next off-season. Babcock may actually be available, and if he is, it would just be utter stupidity to keep this guy if you could have Babcock instead.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 29 @ 10:19 AM ET
I figure Weight or Cronin will get the job on at least an interim basis, if he is actually fired...as I said, I'm just hoping these new guys start to let Wang know some of their thoughts during this next off-season. Babcock may actually be available, and if he is, it would just be utter stupidity to keep this guy if you could have Babcock instead.
- dcb1

I'm not wild about any of our current coaches being handed the main job. They're all responsible for the crap we've been watching (cronin less so)

I want a respected NHL head coach with experience and a track record of success. Crawford worked well in vancouver, colorado and dallas, all teams that improved under him. Firing capuano to promote weight or cronin to me isn't doing a damn thing differently.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 29 @ 10:34 AM ET
Based on the general sentiment I've seen here and in Dee's Kiddy Blog..it appears I'm going to be in the minority on this, but I saw nothing wrong with Kulemin's hit last night. He didn't catch him in the numbers, he didn't get his head. Stuart was in an unfortunate position but, unless I'm missing something (which is certainly possible), I don't see what was wrong with the hit.

Especially since in his post-game Tavares mentioned that the ref told him "he had to make that call", which leads me to believe that the call was made because Stuart got injured and it was a big hit. It was reactionary. Not because it was a penalty. If that was the case the ref could have easily have told Tavares that "it was a clear cut (boarding, check to the head, etc...)" and to shut up.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 29 @ 10:47 AM ET
He has been nothing but successful in the minor leagues. Come watch him run a practice.. You would be pleased. I don't want him coaching the big club but I think he is exactly where he should be and should have never been promoted off from bport a few years ago
- Dan Petriw

You have a better understanding then I do thats for sure. Im just going from what I've seen with him as our assistant and i wasnt impressed. Its good to hear something positive about thompson from someone with a better handle on bdgpt. Hes got a very important job.
brodydog29
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2011

Oct 29 @ 10:52 AM ET
I wonder if Boychuck and Leddy stand in the back during practice and shake their heads at what Capuano calls defense...
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 29 @ 10:55 AM ET
Snow has made it a point to say many times..."last year was one me"... alluding to the fact that this year is Solely on the coach. If they do not win 3 of 6 on this trip I would wager a lot of money that Cap is gone.
- niteislander


If they go 2-4 they will have a 8-7 record. I don't see Cappy getting fired. I don't think Cappy's job is in jeopardy yet.

The larger point is even if he does get fired the Isles will not be much better off if they promote from within - which I think is likely.
brodydog29
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2011

Oct 29 @ 11:05 AM ET
If they go 2-4 they will have a 8-7 record. I don't see Cappy getting fired. I don't think Cappy's job is in jeopardy yet.

The larger point is even if he does get fired the Isles will not be much better off if they promote from within - which I think is likely.

- JimmyP


I agree. I don't think Cappy is in trouble. IF he were, what we want as a coach and what Snow hires might be two completely different things. Does anyone know who the current Univ. of Maine coach is? If it isn't Weight or Thompson, it may be one of the college boys of Snow's.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 29 @ 11:14 AM ET
If they go 2-4 they will have a 8-7 record. I don't see Cappy getting fired. I don't think Cappy's job is in jeopardy yet.

The larger point is even if he does get fired the Isles will not be much better off if they promote from within - which I think is likely.

- JimmyP

Snow might surprise you. His job is on the line this season. Desperate people do desperate things.He may pull the trigger quicker than any of us think.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 29 @ 11:37 AM ET
Snow might surprise you. His job is on the line this season. Desperate people do desperate things.He may pull the trigger quicker than any of us think.
- Cptmjl



Exactly. I recorded the game last night and got home around 10:30. My son who should have been asleep hours ago was still up. I lay him down in bed and as I'm just about to leave him room he says dad the Jets won. I was so pissed and then I realized I was more pissed they lost to the jets then I was for telling me the outcome. So I watched SOA instead. Halak was that bad last night huh? How was the kid line? I know Nelson had a good game but that was from the PP. I see the PK struggled again. What else did I miss?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 29 @ 11:56 AM ET
Exactly. I recorded the game last night and got home around 10:30. My son who should have been asleep hours ago was still up. I lay him down in bed and as I'm just about to leave him room he says dad the Jets won. I was so pissed and then I realized I was more pissed they lost to the jets then I was for telling me the outcome. So I watched SOA instead. Halak was that bad last night huh? How was the kid line? I know Nelson had a good game but that was from the PP. I see the PK struggled again. What else did I miss?
- Vukota

I'm not particularly worried about Halak. His game hasn't been good enough but I'm confident he'll get up to speed soon.

There are plenty of quality goaltenders having bad starts to the year. Two of the other ones call the tri-state area home actually...
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Oct 29 @ 12:31 PM ET
If they go 2-4 they will have a 8-7 record. I don't see Cappy getting fired. I don't think Cappy's job is in jeopardy yet.

The larger point is even if he does get fired the Isles will not be much better off if they promote from within - which I think is likely.

- JimmyP

they would have to absolutely tank for Cappy to get fired. It would take another 0 for November to get him fired. Snow sticks with his guys. He's patient, sometimes to a fault. I think unless they're is a total collapse in November or December, which I just don't see happening with this team, Cappy is safe this season.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Oct 29 @ 12:31 PM ET
I'm not wild about any of our current coaches being handed the main job. They're all responsible for the crap we've been watching (cronin less so)

I want a respected NHL head coach with experience and a track record of success. Crawford worked well in vancouver, colorado and dallas, all teams that improved under him. Firing capuano to promote weight or cronin to me isn't doing a damn thing differently.

- Isles_since_6



I agree- I want a real coach, too. I'm just saying that I'd be EXTREMELY surprised if they start to slip and Capuano is fired that Snow replaces him with anyone other than a promotion (which I think would be Cronin- I think Weight is also the assistant GM, and is likely moving in that direction). If they miss the dance, I'd not be surprised if the whole lot of them was fired after the season, starting with Garth.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Oct 29 @ 12:33 PM ET
Snow might surprise you. His job is on the line this season. Desperate people do desperate things.He may pull the trigger quicker than any of us think.
- Cptmjl

I think Snow is safe as long as Wang is majority owner. After that, all bets are off.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 29 @ 12:34 PM ET
I agree- I want a real coach, too. I'm just saying that I'd be EXTREMELY surprised if they start to slip and Capuano is fired Snow replaces him with anyone other than a promotion (which I think would be Cronin- I think Weight is also the assistant GM, and is likely moving in that direction). If they miss the dance, I'd not be surprised if the whole lot of them was fired after the season, starting with Garth.
- dcb1

I'd find it very hard to believe that Snow is going to get fired after adding goaltending, replacing 1/3 of our defense with quality defenders, and addressing a major issue in scoring depth.
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