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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 26 @ 5:21 PM ET
nice pick there, gilbert...

a #3 d-man at $5.5m/year isn't all that bad, especially if he has upside, which I believe he has

- Michael Pachla



couldn't tell if it was meant as 3rd pairing, or #3 d-man.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Oct 26 @ 5:25 PM ET
Straight up dumbassery.
- jochfr

methinks it'll be something he learns from...not sure I see a T.O./Ochocinco-type player in him
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 26 @ 5:27 PM ET
couldn't tell if it was meant as 3rd pairing, or #3 d-man.
- Sabresfan-365


When I first read it I wasn't sure either but then safely assumed #3 D because he's no Weber
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 26 @ 5:30 PM ET
When I first read it I wasn't sure either but then safely assumed #3 D because he's no Weber
- GilPerreault11


Does make more sense doesn't it.


I know the Myers talks been going in circles but love him or hate him I think you gotta back Murray's play to ask big.

Just looked back at the Dion Phaneuf trade, he didn't turn into a #1 but he became good enough to make calgary look hilariously bad in that trade. I suspect that the same would be possible for Myers on a team like Anaheim/Detroit/Dallas, even if you believe he's not a top pairing guy.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 26 @ 5:33 PM ET
nice pick there, gilbert...

a #3 d-man at $5.5m/year isn't all that bad, especially if he has upside, which I believe he has

- Michael Pachla


No too bad and he will be #1 on Buffalo for another couple more years if he's not dealt.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Oct 26 @ 5:43 PM ET
No too bad and he will be #1 on Buffalo for another couple more years if he's not dealt.
- GilPerreault11


can't understand why there's all this talk of trading him...imo, he'll be the eldest of our young d-corps (gorges being the vet,) and if he tops out as a #3/2, his cap-hit's pretty good/great deal moving forward
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 26 @ 6:08 PM ET
can't understand why there's all this talk of trading him...imo, he'll be the eldest of our young d-corps (gorges being the vet,) and if he tops out as a #3/2, his cap-hit's pretty good/great deal moving forward
- Michael Pachla


If Myers continues to play like he did on the West Coast trip then don't deal him.

I don't know, maybe TM thinks he can get a nice haul for him while he has a deep young D corp to build with. Also, he might think that his value will go down next year, the year before his NTC kicks in. Teams will know that if the Sabres want to deal him they will have to deal him then.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 26 @ 6:09 PM ET
can't understand why there's all this talk of trading him...imo, he'll be the eldest of our young d-corps (gorges being the vet,) and if he tops out as a #3/2, his cap-hit's pretty good/great deal moving forward
- Michael Pachla


Agreed, no NEED to trade him unless the return dictates it.
Keep him and lock him in with a solid defender and they themselves a very solid pairing.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:10 PM ET
If Myers continues to play like he did on the West Coast trip then don't deal him.

I don't know, maybe TM thinks he can get a nice haul for him while he has a deep young D corp to build with. Also, he might think that his value will go down next year, the year before his NTC kicks in. Teams will know that if the Sabres want to deal him they will have to deal him then.

- GilPerreault11

is it murray?...or is it fans who have him on the trading block?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:14 PM ET
Prospects and picks should not come back in a deal involving Myers, it should be NHL ready players, we have enough picks and prospects
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 26 @ 6:15 PM ET
is it murray?...or is it fans who have him on the trading block?
- Michael Pachla


Well, I think it was Bob MacKenzie or Dregger who said TM "quietly" put Myers on the market months ago and then all these reports and rumors just came regularly.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:19 PM ET
Well, I think it was Bob MacKenzie or Dregger who said TM "quietly" put Myers on the market months ago and then all these reports and rumors just came regularly.
- GilPerreault11


things can change in a few months...imo, myers is playing as well as I've seen him play since his rookie season...the only thing missing is points, which can be attributed to any number of things
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:28 PM ET
things can change in a few months...imo, myers is playing as well as I've seen him play since his rookie season...the only thing missing is points, which can be attributed to any number of things
- Michael Pachla


On the flip side, it could be that because he's playing this way, his value may never be any higher than it is now.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 26 @ 6:29 PM ET
Prospects and picks should not come back in a deal involving Myers, it should be NHL ready players, we have enough picks and prospects
- SABRES 89



Probably depends on the prospect/pick. I mean if carolina wanted to give up lindholm and their 1st, it'd be pretty tough to say no.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 26 @ 6:37 PM ET
Prospects and picks should not come back in a deal involving Myers, it should be NHL ready players, we have enough picks and prospects
- SABRES 89


But this team isn't going to make the playoffs let alone contend at least for the next 3 years. If they get NHL ready players they should be young ready ones like 22-23. Older ones and they'll be close to UFA depending on their contract status by the time they make the playoffs.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 26 @ 6:40 PM ET
On the flip side, it could be that because he's playing this way, his value may never be any higher than it is now.
- buffalofan19

On the worst team in hockey? I highly doubt that being on a better team wouldn't increase his value
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Oct 26 @ 6:48 PM ET
Just saw this and thought it interesting. Of course it's only one NHL scout's opinion, I assume.

‏@DennisTFP 1h1 hour ago
NHL scout on Sabres Myers "when he came in looked like future Norris winner. now he's a 3D. Don't know what happened maybe it's the losing"

- GilPerreault11


This one scout must be with a team that wants him and is trying to drive his value down . He is even getting a little nasty . I love his game right now and he only seems to be getting better every game.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:49 PM ET
On the worst team in hockey? I highly doubt that being on a better team wouldn't increase his value
- sbroads24



By the time this team is any good, he's going to have a no-trade clause that kicks in. That factors in.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 26 @ 6:50 PM ET
Watkins on pace for 76 catches and 1180 yards...

I'll forgive the showboating incident because he will learn from it. But this play calling has been horrendous...

The score could have easily been in the 60's
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:50 PM ET
On the flip side, it could be that because he's playing this way, his value may never be any higher than it is now.
- buffalofan19


yup...possible...but there comes a time when you need to start keeping players to build with
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 26 @ 6:51 PM ET
By the time this team is any good, he's going to have a no-trade clause that kicks in. That factors in.
- buffalofan19

I would buy the NTC thing if Murray didn't just hand them to underachieving veterans because they wanted to be here.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:55 PM ET
I would buy the NTC thing if Murray didn't just hand them to underachieving veterans because they wanted to be here.
- sbroads24



Fair enough, but, at the same time, if Myers doesn't ultimately fit into the long-term plan, the options of where you can send him after 2016.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Oct 26 @ 6:55 PM ET






This is definitely one of you guys isn't it

- Sabresfan-365


Pumpkin foul!

The slug?
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 26 @ 6:55 PM ET
This one scout must be with a team that wants him and is trying to drive his value down . He is even getting a little nasty . I love his game right now and he only seems to be getting better every game.
- Maximum Signal


On a good to great team Myers would still fall into the 3D range until he starts to pick up his offensive production. He had a very good West Coast trip, let's see if he keeps it up.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:56 PM ET
Well thank god for the third down pass play . We should have thrown on first and caught them cheating . This game should have been over long ago if not for the play calling. Thank god for the defense and all the turnovers.. The stats for this game are not going to be pretty in spite of the score . Sorry for the rant . Just so frustrating watching Hackett tie the hands of the offense . Let them play coach !
- Maximum Signal



Implying that you're smarter than the coaching staff. How dare you!
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