Not gonna to argue with that....wouldn't mind trading a major piece to get one either, but there doesn't appear to be many available. We have plenty of 2nd pairing D, adding another won't do much to us.
- Jeropotato

Should target Larsson or a young defenseman that can't play as of now because of depth. Beaulieu is an example of that and I am sure there is a few of them around the league.

Sometimes I wonder if with these trade proposals, posters put any thought into the the other teams perspective?

Like the Oilers would look at this deal and say ' we're making out like gangbusters with this deal'.
- Jeropotato

You have to be a total nhl fan like you and me to know these things. Fans of one team usually get wrapped up in what they have and are totally out to lunch in regards to what is really going on around the league. Not being a Richard here but I watch hockey live nhl style 8 hours a day and do not miss many games, the result of 36 years of keeper league hockey.

It truly is amazing.
- laughs2907

Yeah those people are crazy. Marek Zidlicky and a 2017 3rd rounder for Yakupov?

Emelin is often seen as just a big hitter but he is a very good second pair D. Myers, to me, might be a flash in the pan with his rookie year. He hasn't really matched that level since, but to be fair Buffalo is kind of a train wreck so who knows if he would flourish in a better system/team with a solid Vet or two to help him out. If you go by what Myers has done lately then his contract is basically for his size. He's kind of a risk reward trade, but if Buffalo is asking for a crazy amount then he isn't going anywhere because who knows what player he actually is. Is he the ROTY winner or is he the guy we have seen the last few seasons? I don't know and that's probably why he hasn't moved yet. His value is low, imo.
- SmielmaN

Played 26 minutes again last night with PK on the top pair.

Just a note on Emelin, the Habs are a much better team with a healthy Emelin. He is a fun guy to watch and is always in the middle of the physical stuff. Seems to me when he got injured last year it coincided with Habs having trouble winning.
- flyerdude17

Playing on his wrong side did not help either. Probably the main reason why they traded Gorges.

Should target Larsson or a young defenseman that can't play as of now because of depth. Beaulieu is an example of that and I am sure there is a few of them around the league.
- deadpoulet

Why? If Nurse and Klefbom can't make our team because of depth why would we make an investment in a guy like Larrson? No thanks, we need a top pair D, have plenty of 2nd pair guys like I mentioned, not to mention a wealth of d prospects.

That's a pretty good deal both ways👍
- Jeropotato

Not entirely sure it's solves the long term problem for either team, but id say its definitely fair value.

Yeah those people are crazy. Marek Zidlicky and a 2017 3rd rounder for Yakupov?
- smellmyfinger

Done.








And I am the GM.

Should target Larsson or a young defenseman that can't play as of now because of depth. Beaulieu is an example of that and I am sure there is a few of them around the league.
- deadpoulet

Lol. Depth. Yeah that's why they can't play right now...

Played 26 minutes again last night with PK on the top pair.
- fidopro

I know lol. But if the Habs are looking to pour it on its PK and the General all the way. Emmy is a versatile piece that is great to have. I'm not putting him down, trust me I'm a fan. But when I think top 2 D on the Habs it's PK and Markov.

Yeah those people are crazy. Marek Zidlicky and a 2017 3rd rounder for Yakupov?
- smellmyfinger

2018's supposed to be a good year. Change that 2017 3rd to a 2018 4th, EDM throws in Klefbom and I think we have a deal

I don't think people realize how good Emelin is. I would not trade him straight up for Tyler Myers. Emelin completes hard every shift, hits hard and is good offensively despite playing in the shadows of Subban and Markov.
- flyerdude17

But he does have more brain cramps then he should. He is a tough SOB!

He might upgrade our Defense ever so much, but he won't fix the issues on our backend.
- Jeropotato

He would be a fan favourite and would be the perfect partner for Schultz. Emelin is a physical stay at home dman who can move the puck nicely as well but this would allow Justin to be a little more offensive knowing Emelin would have his back. I like the way the Oil have played the last couple games but I still do not have much faith in them until they get a real coach behind the bench. I saw that Yakupov had a great game and the next game he hardly seen the ice ?? When a guy shows signs of breaking out you have to keep it going but wienerhead just don't get it. (Eakins)

Why? If Nurse and Klefbom can't make our team because of depth why would we make an investment in a guy like Larrson? No thanks, we need a top pair D, have plenty of 2nd pair guys like I mentioned, not to mention a wealth of d prospects.
- Jeropotato

Oilers 2015 5th round pick for Shea Weber

*This was not a serious trade proposal, Jammerz04*

You have to be a total nhl fan like you and me to know these things. Fans of one team usually get wrapped up in what they have and are totally out to lunch in regards to what is really going on around the league. Not being a Richard here but I watch hockey live nhl style 8 hours a day and do not miss many games, the result of 36 years of keeper league hockey.
- flyerdude17

Yeah I don't watch that much, but I have some common sense about me and I at least try to look at the other teams perspective. Not saying my finger is on the pulse of the other 29 teams but the basic principals of value still apply:
Age, contract status, cap space, experience, proven track records , team depth and prospect depth all need to be considered ( FOR BOTH TEAMS) when trying to put together a 'Fair ' trade.

Otherwise I would have traded Ference and Lander to Nashville for Weber months ago.

He would be a fan favourite and would be the perfect partner for Schultz. Emelin is a physical stay at home dman who can move the puck nicely as well but this would allow Justin to be a little more offensive knowing Emelin would have his back. I like the way the Oil have played the last couple games but I still do not have much faith in them until they get a real coach behind the bench. I saw that Yakupov had a great game and the next game he hardly seen the ice ?? When a guy shows signs of breaking out you have to keep it going but wienerhead just don't get it. (Eakins)
- flyerdude17

I think there's 0 chance for that trade to happen (Emelin vs Eberle).
Habs need Emelin much more than they need Eberle.

If EDM dealt for Emelin, they'd have 3 2nd pairing left shot Ds blocking Klefbom and Nurse.

He would be a fan favourite and would be the perfect partner for Schultz. Emelin is a physical stay at home dman who can move the puck nicely as well but this would allow Justin to be a little more offensive knowing Emelin would have his back. I like the way the Oil have played the last couple games but I still do not have much faith in them until they get a real coach behind the bench. I saw that Yakupov had a great game and the next game he hardly seen the ice ?? When a guy shows signs of breaking out you have to keep it going but wienerhead just don't get it. (Eakins)
- flyerdude17

We brought in Nikitin and or Fayne for that role. Emelin is not going to be better than them.

Top pair guy or nothing is all the Oil need on the back end.

He would be a fan favourite and would be the perfect partner for Schultz. Emelin is a physical stay at home dman who can move the puck nicely as well but this would allow Justin to be a little more offensive knowing Emelin would have his back. I like the way the Oil have played the last couple games but I still do not have much faith in them until they get a real coach behind the bench. I saw that Yakupov had a great game and the next game he hardly seen the ice ?? When a guy shows signs of breaking out you have to keep it going but wienerhead just don't get it. (Eakins)
- flyerdude17

Agreed. You want Yak to flourish. And if your trying to trade him you still want him to flourish. With the young team Edm has they should have a veteran coach. I didn't really get the hiring of Eakins at the time. Why put a rookie in with a bunch of rookies? Maybe Carlyle will be available soon! Hahaha

Yeah I don't watch that much, but I have some common sense about me and I at least try to look at the other teams perspective. Not saying my finger is on the pulse of the other 29 teams but the basic principals of value still apply:
Age, contract status, cap space, experience, proven track records , team depth and prospect depth all need to be considered ( FOR BOTH TEAMS) when trying to put together a 'Fair ' trade.

Otherwise I would have traded Ference and Lander to Nashville for Weber months ago.
- Jeropotato

We brought in Nikitin and or Fayne for that role. Emelin is not going to be better than them.

Top pair guy or nothing is all the Oil need on the back end.
- ghostofRC

Emelin is better than both those players. Not being a knob, but that's the truth

Why? If Nurse and Klefbom can't make our team because of depth why would we make an investment in a guy like Larrson? No thanks, we need a top pair D, have plenty of 2nd pair guys like I mentioned, not to mention a wealth of d prospects.
- Jeropotato

You need to trade for a star defenseman, before he is one (Mcdonagh).

You trade for a guy who will be able to be that first pair defenseman in 2 or 3 years.

Agreed. You want Yak to flourish. And if your trying to trade him you still want him to flourish. With the young team Edm has they should have a veteran coach. I didn't really get the hiring of Eakins at the time. Why put a rookie in with a bunch of rookies? Maybe Carlyle will be available soon! Hahaha
- SmielmaN

Well we did win our last 3 games so .....

So if Emelin is the "key piece" there must be a lot of add ons on Montreal's side.
- SmielmaN

There is no fit between the 7-1 Habs and the $6 mil Eberle. He is a small skilled forward that could help a lot of teams but I don't see the fit with Mtl

Emelin is better than both those players. Not being a knob, but that's the truth
- SmielmaN

Definitely better than Nikitin but is he better than Fayne? Both are quality physical shut down D. I'm not attached to Fayne like you would be to Emelin and I think it would be tight