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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 26 @ 7:32 PM ET
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 26 @ 7:36 PM ET
Looks like Nick Cousins may be putting it together this year in the AHL like he did his last 2 seasons with the greyhounds

5 games, 2 G's and 6 A's

- Yosimar89


He's started off very well.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 26 @ 7:55 PM ET
The Eagles will be drafting a qb. Foles and his noodle arm arent going to cut it
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 26 @ 7:58 PM ET
Giroux leads the league in SOG.
Voracek is tied for the lead league in assists with 9.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 26 @ 8:01 PM ET
The Eagles will be drafting a qb. Foles and his noodle arm arent going to cut it
- Just5


No Sproles today, which didn't help matters.

But really, you can't give up explosive plays like that and think you are gonna win. That defense just isn't right, even though they shut out the Giants. But that secondary hasn't been right since the middle of the Reid era, when Brown and Sheppard were the corners and Dawkins was at free
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 26 @ 8:13 PM ET
FTW
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 26 @ 8:15 PM ET
No Sproles today, which didn't help matters.

But really, you can't give up explosive plays like that and think you are gonna win. That defense just isn't right, even though they shut out the Giants. But that secondary hasn't been right since the middle of the Reid era, when Brown and Sheppard were the corners and Dawkins was at free

- AllInForFlyers


They missed Sproles. The defense was fine today. On the road they pitched several 3 and outs. They gave the offense all kinds of opportunity to put this game away with short fields. With an above average starting qb the eagles win this. I was a Foles backer, but it seems everyone has adjusted. His arm strength combined with him holding the ball is a recipe for a disaster, with all these interceptions (and they are awful ones) is proving it.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:17 PM ET
The Eagles will be drafting a qb. Foles and his noodle arm arent going to cut it
- Just5


Agreed. His arm did a horrible job of covering the single guy on the game winning TD for the Cardinals.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:55 PM ET
Agreed. His arm did a horrible job of covering the single guy on the game winning TD for the Cardinals.
- opeth_pa

This is happening right now on my facebook. Some guy female doges about how Foles should be benched, and then I commented saying exactly what you said.

His reaction? "I mean Nick Foles".

My reaction? "I know who you meant bro"

Oh dear
consig
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: madison, CT
Joined: 06.26.2006

Oct 26 @ 9:09 PM ET
It's not a one size fits all proposition. Seth Jones stepped in and played great. Luke Schenn stepped in and has been inconsistent for six seasons.

If it was as simple as looking at film, then there'd be zero reason for juniors, the AHL or any developmental leagues.

Bad habits can certainly be coached out, but once they get ingrained they are harder to fix. That's why you can focus on development at the AHL and junior levels. Gostisbehere has a lot of work to do on his game away from the puck and in his own end. He could stand to get stronger.

If you want short term fixes, why not re-hire Holmgren, trade Gostisbehere and Morin for Tyler Myers and keep going on the path they followed since the Pronger injury-plugging leaks with overpriced veterans and dumping draft picks away on short term fixes.


Also, say they keep Gostisbehere and they fire Berube. Isn't the new coach going to feel the same pressure to win now that Berube does? Is a new guy going to come in and say, hey I'm going to give the developmental aspect of this kid's game priority over winning now? Probably not.

- Jsaquella



The difference for Jones and Hamilton and even Pronger after his trade to St. Louis, was that they have Weber, Chara and Macinnis as their mentors. Something that Schenn, Sbisa and Larsson don't have
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 26 @ 9:12 PM ET
The difference for Jones and Hamilton and even Pronger after his trade to St. Louis, was that they have Weber, Chara and Macinnis as their mentors. Something that Schenn, Sbisa and Larsson don't have
- consig


That's a factor as well.

The Flyers don't have a Pronger or Timonen, at least in an active capacity. They have a Coburn, a MacDonald and a Streit.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 26 @ 9:16 PM ET
That's a factor as well.

The Flyers don't have a Pronger or Timonen, at least in an active capacity. They have a Coburn, a MacDonald and a Streit.

- Jsaquella


Which right now is just a Streit
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 26 @ 9:21 PM ET
Without back reading I assume you guys have already touched on the Petry rumors from the Oilers blog? I don't think it's worth trading assets for him right now. I was under the assumption that we just spent all these draft picks on D men so we wouldn't have to make moves like this. Don't get me wrong, Petry could come in and help this team over the next couple years but I'm not trading Schenn for him. And I'm certianly not even going to entertain the thought of giving them Coots.

I just don't see a fair value trade for Petry that makes sense for either team here.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 26 @ 9:23 PM ET
So ESPN reports Cards' star prospect Oscar Taveras died in a car crash back home in the Dominican Republic

That's not cool man. (frank). He was my age.

EDIT: His girlfriend too

http://espn.go.com/mlb/st...ash?ex_cid=sportscenterFB
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 26 @ 9:23 PM ET
Without back reading I assume you guys have already touched on the Petry rumors from the Oilers blog? I don't think it's worth trading assets for him right now. I was under the assumption that we just spent all these draft picks on D men so we wouldn't have to make moves like this. Don't get me wrong, Petry could come in and help this team over the next couple years but I'm not trading Schenn for him. And I'm certianly not even going to entertain the thought of giving them Coots.

I just don't see a fair value trade for Petry that makes sense for either team here.

- hereticpride


Petry only makes sense as part of a larger deal, despite being an upgrade on the bottom 3 guys(when everyone is healthy).

Petry is a solid defenseman, leans offensive, righty shot. He's probably comparable to MacDonald in terms of how he would slot in with the Flyers. The trouble is, he's a pending UFA and due a sizeable raise.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 26 @ 9:32 PM ET
So ESPN reports Cards' star prospect Oscar Taveras died in a car crash back home in the Dominican Republic

That's not cool man. (frank). He was my age.

EDIT: His girlfriend too

http://espn.go.com/mlb/st...ash?ex_cid=sportscenterFB

- Giroux_Is_God


Yeah thats pretty crazy. He was one of the top prospects in baseball before being brought up this year.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 26 @ 9:33 PM ET
Yeah thats pretty crazy. He was one of the top prospects in baseball before being brought up this year.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yeah..
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Oct 26 @ 9:57 PM ET
Petry only makes sense as part of a larger deal, despite being an upgrade on the bottom 3 guys(when everyone is healthy).

Petry is a solid defenseman, leans offensive, righty shot. He's probably comparable to MacDonald in terms of how he would slot in with the Flyers. The trouble is, he's a pending UFA and due a sizeable raise.

- Jsaquella


I really have minimal interest in Petry because he is basically going to get paid as a UFA if acquired. Considering the cap probably isn't going to go up that much, I think he'll probably get a yearly average somewhere between Grossmann and AMac. I would rather pass honestly.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 10:04 PM ET
I really have minimal interest in Petry because he is basically going to get paid as a UFA if acquired. Considering the cap probably isn't going to go up that much, I think he'll probably get a yearly average somewhere between Grossmann and AMac. I would rather pass honestly.
- ravishingone


I don't disagree about Petry, because of his pending UFA status. But the cap is going to go up a considerable amount.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 26 @ 10:12 PM ET
I don't disagree about Petry, because of his pending UFA status. But the cap is going to go up a considerable amount.
- MJL


you think? UFA dollars will only get more bananas then, but our already locked up stars will provide better value.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 10:16 PM ET
you think? UFA dollars will only get more bananas then, but our already locked up stars will provide better value.
- stayinthefnnet


UFA dollars are always bananas. League will probably bring in record HRR again.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 26 @ 10:25 PM ET
I really have minimal interest in Petry because he is basically going to get paid as a UFA if acquired. Considering the cap probably isn't going to go up that much, I think he'll probably get a yearly average somewhere between Grossmann and AMac. I would rather pass honestly.
- ravishingone


I think he will get AMac or above, that's the issue.

I like Petry, but he's more of the same. Got to stop paying top dollar for mid corps defensemen
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 26 @ 10:38 PM ET
Petry only makes sense as part of a larger deal, despite being an upgrade on the bottom 3 guys(when everyone is healthy).

Petry is a solid defenseman, leans offensive, righty shot. He's probably comparable to MacDonald in terms of how he would slot in with the Flyers. The trouble is, he's a pending UFA and due a sizeable raise.

- Jsaquella

I was actually thinking that Petry would basically be this year's MacDonald given his impending UFA status. I really dont want to see the Flyers throw out another market value contract for another good, not great defenseman.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 26 @ 10:40 PM ET
I was actually thinking that Petry would basically be this year's MacDonald given his impending UFA status. I really dont want to see the Flyers throw out another market value contract for another good, not great defenseman.
- hereticpride


Yep. That's exactly how I see it. Not to mention they'll have to go at least 4 or 5 years, which muddies the waters when the kids are ready to step in
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 26 @ 10:40 PM ET
UFA dollars are always bananas. League will probably bring in record HRR again.
- MJL


true. i guess everything is best evaluated through a relativity scale anyway.
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