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bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Oct 25 @ 10:51 PM ET
Jacob Markstrom:

4-0-0, 3 shutouts, .991 save % and 0.26 GAA



- Nucker101

(frank)ing sieve
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 25 @ 10:52 PM ET
Really? whos the goalie coach in Utica.
- vancity787


I always thought NHL teams used the same goalie coach for their AHL guys? Regardless, Melanson was the one coaching him the entire time after the Luongo trade.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Oct 25 @ 10:57 PM ET
To everyone in the hockey pool. Its is beyond clear I need more offence. Am absolutely willing to give up a first or second draft pick to get some top six players. three goals is unacceptable at this point.

Make me an offer please
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Oct 25 @ 10:58 PM ET
I always thought NHL teams used the same goalie coach for their AHL guys? Regardless, Melanson was the one coaching him the entire time after the Luongo trade.
- Nucker101

its funny, I turned on an "NHL classic game" on sports net today and Rolly was the Goalie.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 25 @ 10:58 PM ET
To everyone in the hockey pool. Its is beyond clear I need more offence. Am absolutely willing to give up a first or second draft pick to get some top six players. three goals is unacceptable at this point.

Make me an offer please

- vancity787


Maybe we can help each other our. Outside of picks who else is on the block?
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Oct 25 @ 11:01 PM ET
To everyone in the hockey pool. Its is beyond clear I need more offence. Am absolutely willing to give up a first or second draft pick to get some top six players. three goals is unacceptable at this point.

Make me an offer please

- vancity787

Interested in Vermette?
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Oct 25 @ 11:06 PM ET
Virtanen having quite a game. 1 foal and 2 assists tonight
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 25 @ 11:07 PM ET
Virtanen having quite a game. 1 foal and 2 assists tonight
- kneughter

I thought he didn't like passing
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 25 @ 11:08 PM ET
You can't have it both ways. You called him gullible for believing Gillis with no hard evidence that Gillis lied, but you claim that you are just being reasonable for not believing Gillis and speculation. Pretty arbitrary distinction, and since there is no hard evidence available the only thing that can be used to formulate an opinion is speculation, perceived history, and personal judgment. These are all subjective so it isn't really fair to say that your version is reasonable and his is not (for the record I have no opinion on the issue at hand)
- bezz44


Both ways wtf? First of all I didnt say he was flat out wrong but just speculating... and you draw the line between the two(speculation and opinion) like I have been doing all along...how do you miss that only one of us is doing that? I merely am pointing out he's hand picking. I can hand pick to support that Cody wasnt a "sideshow" or a "carnival" in his rookie year... and its speculative... and is the point altogether. You think two people are arguing a version but thats not at all whats been happening. Its one person saying "you dont know that and those are not facts". I merely provide him with contradictory info to support that other poop can be speculated as well... He's firm that those events actually happened. He doesnt express any doubt in Gillis' version whats so ever.

I dont think it's unreasonable to have doubt in Gillis word if its his alone and he's been a snake on other occasions. How is that hypocritical? Im not going to sit here and tell anyone how it actually went down. I dont know...

If our vets were effected by some rookie looking for more ice time then they are the problem.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Oct 25 @ 11:17 PM ET
I thought he didn't like passing
- Nucker101



probably tap in rebounds from his shots on net.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Oct 25 @ 11:18 PM ET
Both ways wtf? First of all I didnt say he was flat out wrong but just speculating... and you draw the line between the two(speculation and opinion) like I have been doing all along...how do you miss that only one of us is doing that? I merely am pointing out he's hand picking. I can hand pick to support that Cody wasnt a "sideshow" or a "carnival" in his rookie year... and its speculative... and is the point altogether. You think two people are arguing a version but thats not at all whats been happening. Its one person saying "you dont know that and those are not facts". I merely provide him with contradictory info to support that other poop can be speculated as well... He's firm that those events actually happened. He doesnt express any doubt in Gillis' version whats so ever.

I dont think it's unreasonable to have doubt in Gillis word if its his alone and he's been a snake on other occasions. How is that hypocritical?

- boonerbuck

I don't think it's unreasonable. It is all speculation and nobody should formulate any concrete opinions. When you called him gullible it seemed more like you were simply attacking the fact that his opinion was different than yours than criticizing the degree to which he was asserting his claim based on rumours and hearsay. If that's all you were doing then fair enough, but when I read your post I got the distinct impression that your problem was with his opinion in its entirety
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 25 @ 11:34 PM ET
Another goal for JV!

2G and 2A tonight
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 25 @ 11:37 PM ET
I don't think it's unreasonable. It is all speculation and nobody should formulate any concrete opinions. When you called him gullible it seemed more like you were simply attacking the fact that his opinion was different than yours than criticizing the degree to which he was asserting his claim based on rumours and hearsay. If that's all you were doing then fair enough, but when I read your post I got the distinct impression that your problem was with his opinion in its entirety
- bezz44


Its simple... he he backed up his opinion that Cody was a cancer with a bunch of speculation and rumors. When I accused him of speculating.... he defended it by speculating harder... which changed nothing.


Im not selling a version. I have my own opinion and I wouldnt dodge that its not fact. I think you were noticing that my opinion was different and *speculating* the reasoning for my "attack".

Look, a day does not go by where I dont read several opinions on here that I strongly dont agree with. Unless its actually backed by some wishy washy stuff, I don't give a poop and wont waste my time. But Ill take the bait if it is... and call it what it is.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Oct 26 @ 12:08 AM ET
Its simple... he he backed up his opinion that Cody was a cancer with a bunch of speculation and rumors. When I accused him of speculating.... he defended it by speculating harder... which changed nothing.


Im not selling a version. I have my own opinion and I wouldnt dodge that its not fact. I think you were noticing that my opinion was different and *speculating* the reasoning for my "attack".

Look, a day does not go by where I dont read several opinions on here that I strongly dont agree with. Unless its actually backed by some wishy washy stuff, I don't give a poop and wont waste my time. But Ill take the bait if it is... and call it what it is.

- boonerbuck


All this stuff on here is speculation. Even if you hear something out of the horse's mouth, you don't know if it is bs or not.

Samuelsson was told he would have a chance on the 2nd line.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Oct 26 @ 12:43 AM ET
Its simple... he he backed up his opinion that Cody was a cancer with a bunch of speculation and rumors. When I accused him of speculating.... he defended it by speculating harder... which changed nothing.


Im not selling a version. I have my own opinion and I wouldnt dodge that its not fact. I think you were noticing that my opinion was different and *speculating* the reasoning for my "attack".

Look, a day does not go by where I dont read several opinions on here that I strongly dont agree with. Unless its actually backed by some wishy washy stuff, I don't give a poop and wont waste my time. But Ill take the bait if it is... and call it what it is.

- boonerbuck


Cody was a cancer. A number of my friends paid to have dinner with Gillis and each time Gillis said it. Those aren't rumours, they are facts. His dad asked for him to be traded over twenty times, he called AV and Gillis nonstop complaining about ice time , linemates etc...
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Oct 26 @ 12:45 AM ET
Interested in Vermette?
- bezz44

yah cuz he's reallly lighting it up
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Oct 26 @ 12:49 AM ET
As a 25 year old. I really should be doing something right now. I hate WCB You literally dont know when you'll get paid...
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Oct 26 @ 12:51 AM ET
anyways, Imm hitting the hay, Probably havent slept in four nights. Talk to everyone in the morning. Peace
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Oct 26 @ 1:31 AM ET
Its simple... he he backed up his opinion that Cody was a cancer with a bunch of speculation and rumors. When I accused him of speculating.... he defended it by speculating harder... which changed nothing.


Im not selling a version. I have my own opinion and I wouldnt dodge that its not fact. I think you were noticing that my opinion was different and *speculating* the reasoning for my "attack".

Look, a day does not go by where I dont read several opinions on here that I strongly dont agree with. Unless its actually backed by some wishy washy stuff, I don't give a poop and wont waste my time. But Ill take the bait if it is... and call it what it is.

- boonerbuck

Fair enough then
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Oct 26 @ 1:32 AM ET
yah cuz he's reallly lighting it up
- vancity787

can't blame a guy for trying
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Oct 26 @ 1:33 AM ET
Cody was a cancer. A number of my friends paid to have dinner with Gillis and each time Gillis said it. Those aren't rumours, they are facts. His dad asked for him to be traded over twenty times, he called AV and Gillis nonstop complaining about ice time , linemates etc...
- Scooby_Doo

Was Gillis moonlighting as a Craigslist escort?
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Oct 26 @ 1:39 AM ET
Was Gillis moonlighting as a Craigslist escort?
- bezz44


The old tug and trade.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 26 @ 2:26 AM ET
All this stuff on here is speculation. Even if you hear something out of the horse's mouth, you don't know if it is bs or not.

Samuelsson was told he would have a chance on the 2nd line.

- hillbillydeluxe


Holy poop. I say that probably 100 times. No need to tell me.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 26 @ 2:38 AM ET
Cody was a cancer. A number of my friends paid to have dinner with Gillis and each time Gillis said it. Those aren't rumours, they are facts. His dad asked for him to be traded over twenty times, he called AV and Gillis nonstop complaining about ice time , linemates etc...
- Scooby_Doo


Here we go. Gillis says... thats fact to you... but not me(like hillbilly just said). It remains questionable unless there is a more creditable source than Gillis at a dinner defending himself.

I have a friend who had dinner with him too... I still handle the info that comes back with a grain of salt. I even believed some of the poop Gillis supposedly was saying about the owner because I also have an uncle who has been close friends with someone in the head office. He also knows the owner... Gillis has said a lot of poop that is pure ass covering and finger pointing. Some of it collaborates. I have no doubt that Gillis would lie and exaggerate like many would.

I love how the Cody's father comments almost mirror the comments he was saying about Luongo's wife at this dinner. Right away I thought... "careful of using that bullpoop line twice to cover your ass... makes it look pretty weak".

If at some point Cody asked to be moved and it was kept completely out of the public with no ripple effects in the dressing room.... is that a cancer? Like I said, people gave Lu a pass for going right to the public and tilting poop for 2 seasons. Strange the way the double standards float around here... Cody was professional about it all *what ever the real story is*. Hardly cancerous....

Cody and his agent both said it was bullpoop that his father was making demands. All that gives us is one group's word vrs the other's. Im not going to say their story is fact. The only thing fact is they both have a different story. It seems like no one is willing to consider that.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Oct 26 @ 3:31 AM ET
I'm new to the blogs but I have been reading for awhile...has anything Eklund has said around trades ever come true?

- LordHumungous


David Booth to Van.
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