The Jim Sandlak Syndrome.
- Marwood

You can throw Neely in there as well - his initial years weren't exactly overly promising either (alas, so much for that @#$!#%#@% theory lol)

You boys going to be watching the caps game tonight?

Just saw the Boston goal, nice defence by Gardiner and Phaneuf

Did I go through a time warp, I guess not the Leafs are still losing.

ohhhh great, what would Vancouver be with-out another controversy.


Lack is playing average at best
+
Markstrom with 3 straight shutouts in the AHL and 1 goal in 4 games
=
Goalie Controversy.

ohhhh great, what would Vancouver be with-out another controversy.


Lack is playing average at best
+
Markstrom with 3 straight shutouts in the AHL and 1 goal in 4 games
=
Goalie Controversy.
- classic321

The battle of the backups
=
Pretty weak goalie controversy.

Where can Bo Horvats AHL face off stats be found? I looked on their site.

Just wondering because in 3 games he hasnt had a shot on net yet.

They are beating the Marlies 4-0 right now.

Markstrom refuses to let pucks in the net.

Watching the Dallas vs Islanders game = fun

Subban has a goal in today's game after a goal + yesterday. He continues to be hot.

McCann had a goal and assist today.

Grenier has 2 goals so far vrs the Marlies.

The Hitmen are playing again tonight. Ill check on Jake later.

Subban has a goal in today's game after a goal + yesterday. He continues to be hot.

McCann had a goal and assist today.

Grenier has 2 goals so far vrs the Marlies.

The Hitmen are playing again tonight. Ill check on Jake later.
- boonerbuck

Love that we now have some kids to watch

Gillis said stuff in his defense about it like... "Kassian was only 1 of 5 young players were were willing to make that deal for".

Got to wonder if their was actually four others and if he really even talked to those 4 teams. Not everything leaks in the NHL but if he was working on trades for Coho for a year or more, you'd think something would get out.

Gillis and co definitely over estimated Kaassian. Regardless what he becomes, all the language at the time of the trade was " we go into the playoffs bigger tougher in the top 6" (kassian then played 4rth line and no playoffs, and is on the 4rth line 3 years later) or "young players like this dont become available very often"...
- boonerbuck

Friedman revealed the list. It included John Carlson( ) and Kyle (frank)ing Clifford ( ). Kings rejected it

Love that we now have some kids to watch
- LeftCoaster

Speak for yourself perv

Speak for yourself perv
- Nucker101

I've got a van that says "free ice-cream" on the side, if your interested?

I've got a van that says "free ice-cream" on the side, if your interested?
- LeftCoaster

What kind of ice cream?

Where can Bo Horvats AHL face off stats be found? I looked on their site.

Just wondering because in 3 games he hasnt had a shot on net yet.

They are beating the Marlies 4-0 right now.

Markstrom refuses to let pucks in the net.
- boonerbuck

Not sure where you are looking

http://theahl.com/stats/g...mmary.php?game_id=1013550

He was 2nd in shots with 4 shots on goal.

Speak for yourself perv
- Nucker101

OMG... lefty is a chickenhawk

Not sure where you are looking

http://theahl.com/stats/g...mmary.php?game_id=1013550

He was 2nd in shots with 4 shots on goal.
- classic321

I looked at the AHL game log moments before posting that and it was 0. That was in the 3rd so he must have shot late or they were slow with updates.

I looked at the AHL game log moments before posting that and it was 0. That was in the 3rd so he must have shot late or they were slow with updates.
- boonerbuck

He had most of them earlier so it was probably a bad link.

He had most of them earlier so it was probably a bad link.
- classic321

I guess so. I clicked the boxscore link from the game tracker at the top of their page.

First of all... whats going on totally privately between a GM and player agent cannot be considered a Carnival. It doesnt hurt the dressing room like you are accusing. I cant imagine any team could stay stable for any length of time if it's affecting the team like you say.

This is just one big speculative post. Nothing but rumors and assumptions. After posting these assumptions you continue on about the facts going on behind closed doors lol.

Who's the first quote from? ...and because I don't believe what Gillis said does not make me gullible. It makes me reasonable. If Cody had actually said anything about it for me to believe then maybe you could suggest it but he stayed professional about the whole thing what ever it may have been unlike Kesler and Lu. *Cody the Cancer* did not drag his team through any public bullpoop whats so ever.

You assume you know the details of a conversation and that lead to his trade because of the timing.... management says its working on the Kassian deal for over a year... the trade goes down on the deadline.... but none of that factors in this conversation you imagined with AV?

You cant talk about all this like its fact. Who cares about rumor tweets and the timing of a conversation. Cody just played 2 games on the 4rth line right after he played a strong game on the 3rd and already scored from the 4rth. The team was suffering miserably offensively... its not uncommon for a player to go talk to the coach for some more ice time. Henrik is on record saying he done it with AV a number of times when he was coming up in the league... Do you think you are basing way too much on media rumors...apparently not.
- boonerbuck

You can't have it both ways. You called him gullible for believing Gillis with no hard evidence that Gillis lied, but you claim that you are just being reasonable for not believing Gillis and speculation. Pretty arbitrary distinction, and since there is no hard evidence available the only thing that can be used to formulate an opinion is speculation, perceived history, and personal judgment. These are all subjective so it isn't really fair to say that your version is reasonable and his is not (for the record I have no opinion on the issue at hand)

OMG... lefty is a chickenhawk
- boonerbuck

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You can't have it both ways. You called him gullible for believing Gillis with no hard evidence that Gillis lied, but you claim that you are just being reasonable for not believing Gillis and speculation. Pretty arbitrary distinction, and since there is no hard evidence available the only thing that can be used to formulate an opinion is speculation, perceived history, and personal judgment. These are all subjective so it isn't really fair to say that your version is reasonable and his is not (for the record I have no opinion on the issue at hand)
- bezz44

Gillis f*cked up. Pretty reasonable opinion no matter what you're talking about.

Jacob Markstrom:

4-0-0, 3 shutouts, .991 save % and 0.26 GAA

Jacob Markstrom:

4-0-0, 3 shutouts, .991 save % and 0.26 GAA



- Nucker101

Really? whos the goalie coach in Utica.

Gillis f*cked up. Pretty reasonable opinion no matter what you're talking about.
- CubanBuffet

poop I just got logicked