It was supposed to be Schroeder stepping into the hole Hodgson left according to Gillis. More bullpoop.
- boonerbuck

Very true...good point there

Amazing national anthem tonight. Best ever for Canada
- VANTEL

National anthem?

Edit: never mind, u probably talking CBC Leaf hockey which I never/refuse to watch.

We have a couple of guys who play bigger than they are - Richardson, Higgins, Dorsett, just very hard working guys who give us some backbone. Hansen was the same type of player but I just don't know what is wrong with him. Kassian and Matthias are two players with size that don't play a heavy game and it is too bad because as you said we could use some of that
- bezz44

The Jim Sandlak Syndrome.

We have a couple of guys who play bigger than they are - Richardson, Higgins, Dorsett, just very hard working guys who give us some backbone. Hansen was the same type of player but I just don't know what is wrong with him. Kassian and Matthias are two players with size that don't play a heavy game and it is too bad because as you said we could use some of that
- bezz44

I find it disappointing when you see the other team go out of their way to finish checks to the point they are borderline late and then you see Kassian or whoever on the next shift turn away from a perfect opportunity.

I get frustrated enough when the Sedins don't hit, although I have noticed them be a bit more engaged at times this year, but you know their game is putting up points and they will contribute... Hansen, Kassian, and Matthias don't have any excuses for not being more engaged.

National anthem?

Edit: never mind, u probably talking CBC Leaf hockey which I never/refuse to watch.
- LeftCoaster

It was done in unison from Ottawa Toronto and Montreal honouring the soldiers ,sun in Ottawa and all three arenas did the anthem with the crowds singing. Soldiers were at attention holding back tears. NJ and Ott lined up in a circle together

I find it disappointing when you see the other team go out of their way to finish checks to the point they are borderline late and then you see Kassian or whoever on the next shift turn away from a perfect opportunity.

I get frustrated enough when the Sedins don't hit, although I have noticed them be a bit more engaged at times this year, but you know their game is putting up points and they will contribute... Hansen, Kassian, and Matthias don't have any excuses for not being more engaged.
- hillbillydeluxe

It has been the style of the Canucks for years . Very passive

It was done in unison from Ottawa Toronto and Montreal honouring the soldiers ,sun in Ottawa and all three arenas did the anthem with the crowds singing. Soldiers were at attention holding back tears. NJ and Ott lined up in a circle together
- VANTEL

Oh - hopefully I can see it online somehow, very cool on their part!!

“Cody’s Dad made him go through 3 agents til they finally found one that antagonized MG (Mike Gillis) enough that Cody (was) moved.”

Winter (@hockeyagentdad) responded with this:

“Third time luck they say.”

That's not a carnival to you?

Not sure who the gullible one is here.

Look I'm not condoning the majority of what Gillis has done effectively dismantling a pretty good team in less than three seasons.

But when Rich Winter and Hodgson's old man started in on Gillis and AV it was on. Here you have a ROOKIE basically demanding 'play me or trade me'...maybe in not so many words in his meeting with AV but you know damn well that was what was implied. So what happens next is that it filters through the room so guys like Hank and Kes say "wow..this kid is unproven and he is trying to pry ice time away from us"? It doesn't fly and you can bet your next paycheck that AV had a meeting with a certain few players after the Hodgson meeting and asked if they have a problem with this kid. Sure the rest can be subject to speculation but man I've been around hockey long enough to realise when this kind of stuff is happening...it's not rocket science.

Bottom line is Hodgson had been blacklisted a whiner by mngt and coaching. Doesn't matter whether you agree with it or not or whether you believe Gillis or AV or whatever...what you can believe is that that trade started MINUTES after that meeting with AV. If he was a problem then Coho would be a problem now. So i have absolutely no issues with him being gone regardless of how well he performs in Buffalo.



- LordHumungous

First of all... whats going on totally privately between a GM and player agent cannot be considered a Carnival. It doesnt hurt the dressing room like you are accusing. I cant imagine any team could stay stable for any length of time if it's affecting the team like you say.

This is just one big speculative post. Nothing but rumors and assumptions. After posting these assumptions you continue on about the facts going on behind closed doors lol.

Who's the first quote from? ...and because I don't believe what Gillis said does not make me gullible. It makes me reasonable. If Cody had actually said anything about it for me to believe then maybe you could suggest it but he stayed professional about the whole thing what ever it may have been unlike Kesler and Lu. *Cody the Cancer* did not drag his team through any public bullpoop whats so ever.

You assume you know the details of a conversation and that lead to his trade because of the timing.... management says its working on the Kassian deal for over a year... the trade goes down on the deadline.... but none of that factors in this conversation you imagined with AV?

You cant talk about all this like its fact. Who cares about rumor tweets and the timing of a conversation. Cody just played 2 games on the 4rth line right after he played a strong game on the 3rd and already scored from the 4rth. The team was suffering miserably offensively... its not uncommon for a player to go talk to the coach for some more ice time. Henrik is on record saying he done it with AV a number of times when he was coming up in the league... Do you think you are basing way too much on media rumors...apparently not.

I bet Sbisa would clear waivers.
- thundachunk

Eklund says he's worth a 1st and roster player.

It has been the style of the Canucks for years . Very passive
- VANTEL

Can't argue with that.

Eklund says he's worth a 1st and roster player.
- Scooby_Doo

Make it so.

Oh - hopefully I can see it online somehow, very cool on their part!!
- LeftCoaster

I don't want to get too political. But I hate all this posturing and bs.

I find it terribly disturbing that Cpl Cirillo was shot and killed while basically just performing honour guard duties at the war memorial. But even worse is all the talk and rhetoric that we will not be intimidated and then the solution is to send our soldiers off to whatever conflict, don't equip them as well as they should and then when they come back- appearing battered or not, but the scars are there, the government turns away as they fall through the cracks.

And then whatever the Conservatives do, taking a tough stand on terrorism, people applaud and re-elect them. And all of the damage done to the soldiers turns out to be collateral damage to political success.

Make it so.
- hillbillydeluxe

Hopefully with buffalo or Carolina.

Eklund says he's worth a 1st and roster player.
- Scooby_Doo

I'm new to the blogs but I have been reading for awhile...has anything Eklund has said around trades ever come true?

Hopefully with buffalo or Carolina.
- Scooby_Doo

Picks please.

But don't see these guys, Buffalo or Carolina, trading or trying to improve with the loser winning McDavid.

oops, we are talking Pizza so maybe we can get a good package back for him, he could aid in the tanking.

Hopefully with buffalo or Carolina.
- Scooby_Doo

Who is our trade target on Carolina?

Who is our trade target on Carolina?
- LordHumungous

Connor Mcdavid

I'm new to the blogs but I have been reading for awhile...has anything Eklund has said around trades ever come true?

- LordHumungous

It's pretty much the opposite of what he says happens.

First of all... whats going on totally privately between a GM and player agent cannot be considered a Carnival. It doesnt hurt the dressing room like you are accusing. I cant imagine any team could stay stable for any length of time if it's affecting the team like you say.

This is just one big speculative post. Nothing but rumors and assumptions. After posting these assumptions you continue on about the facts going on behind closed doors lol.

Who's the first quote from? ...and because I don't believe what Gillis said does not make me gullible. It makes me reasonable. If Cody had actually said anything about it for me to believe then maybe you could suggest it but he stayed professional about the whole thing what ever it may have been unlike Kesler and Lu. *Cody the Cancer* did not drag his team through any public bullpoop whats so ever.

You assume you know the details of a conversation and that lead to his trade because of the timing.... management says its working on the Kassian deal for over a year... the trade goes down on the deadline.... but none of that factors in this conversation you imagined with AV?

You cant talk about all this like its fact. Who cares about rumor tweets and the timing of a conversation. Cody just played 2 games on the 4rth line right after he played a strong game on the 3rd and already scored from the 4rth. The team was suffering miserably offensively... its not uncommon for a player to go talk to the coach for some more ice time. Henrik is on record saying he done it with AV a number of times when he was coming up in the league... Do you think you are basing way too much on media rumors...apparently not.
- boonerbuck

I don't care that Hodgson was traded, but I do care that he was traded to apparently the only team that Gillis was talking to. As a result, we did not get fair value back. We traded a contributing centre for a prospect with potential that hadn't shown anything at the NHL level.

Pretty much all of our tradable assets have been moved for below market value, and in some cases, significantly below. So now we're left with a roster full of NTCs and dime a dozen bottom sixers.

I don't care that Hodgson was traded, but I do care that he was traded to apparently the only team that Gillis was talking to. As a result, we did not get fair value back. We traded a contributing centre for a prospect with potential that hadn't shown anything at the NHL level.

Pretty much all of our tradable assets have been moved for below market value, and in some cases, significantly below. So now we're left with a roster full of NTCs and dime a dozen bottom sixers.
- CubanBuffet

That was Gillis's idiotic style. Never barter and negotiate with other teams, just make snap decisions like you are are backed into corner.

Gillis was so damn stubborn that he believed he was always in control but never was.

ie. Schnieder, Luongo, Hodgson.

That was Gillis's idiotic style. Never barter and negotiate with other teams, just make snap decisions like you are are backed into corner.

Gillis was so damn stubborn that he believed he was always in control but never was.

ie. Schnieder, Luongo, Hodgson.
- classic321

Yup, just like throwing Grabner into the Ballard deal. He obviously was a throw in, since Tallon immediately waived him.

Mind numbing, as in just thinking about is enough to make me partake in some of Marwood's jazz cigarettes just to numb the mind.

Yup, just like throwing Grabner into the Ballard deal. He obviously was a throw in, since Tallon immediately waived him.

Mind numbing.
- CubanBuffet

Has anyone read that book that came out recently on Gillis and his time in Vancouver? Hopefully there is more to the story than a gm in over his head.

Yup, just like throwing Grabner into the Ballard deal. He obviously was a throw in, since Tallon immediately waived him.

Mind numbing.
- CubanBuffet

My favorite was Bob Mackenzie after the hodsgon trade. Everyone in the NHL was shocked and Bob Mckenzie said he talked with5 GM's who said they called about Hodgson and Gillis said he wasn't available at the deadline then BAM all of a sudden he's gone.

I don't care that Hodgson was traded, but I do care that he was traded to apparently the only team that Gillis was talking to. As a result, we did not get fair value back. We traded a contributing centre for a prospect with potential that hadn't shown anything at the NHL level.

Pretty much all of our tradable assets have been moved for below market value, and in some cases, significantly below. So now we're left with a roster full of NTCs and dime a dozen bottom sixers.
- CubanBuffet

Thats definitely not speculation. Thats the cold hard facts.

The cycle of developing assets from prospect, to bonified NHler, and back to prospects that need to be developed has to end thats for sure... the gap of good prospects being all work and no play(on the Canucks) is killing us.

My favorite was Bob Mackenzie after the hodsgon trade. Everyone in the NHL was shocked and Bob Mckenzie said he talked with5 GM's who said they called about Hodgson and Gillis said he wasn't available at the deadline then BAM all of a sudden he's gone.



- classic321

Gillis said stuff in his defense about it like... "Kassian was only 1 of 5 young players were were willing to make that deal for".

Got to wonder if their was actually four others and if he really even talked to those 4 teams. Not everything leaks in the NHL but if he was working on trades for Coho for a year or more, you'd think something would get out.

Gillis and co definitely over estimated Kaassian. Regardless what he becomes, all the language at the time of the trade was " we go into the playoffs bigger tougher in the top 6" (kassian then played 4rth line and no playoffs, and is on the 4rth line 3 years later) or "young players like this dont become available very often"...