I don't think the Flyers deal is bad at all. First, the Flyers are a team in desperation mode, so no one's offering them a totally fair deal. Second, I just don't think people who don't watch too much AZ hockey know all that much about Murphy.

This is a two-way defenseman who can skate and is the total package. Defenseman are generally worth more than forwards. Also, Schenn isn't really developing in the way it was thought he would.

When he was on LA, everyone in the world thought he'd be a star by now.
- James_Tanner

If he's not developing right, then why would you want Schenn?


Look your first mistake is your first assumption here. "The Flyers are in desperation mode." Why? Because they have injuries to a defense that was only suppose to get them through this year, maybe next. Morin, Ghost, Alt, Sanheim, and Hagg are all developing. We have players who are developing, we need established NHL'ers with skill. Honestly if we were going to move Schenn, why would'nt Hexy follow his own mantra and simply wait it out, letting Ghost, Alt & Hagg get a little taste of NHL while Coby and Mac Recover? Over exposing the kids is a bad idea, but giving them a taste? That sounds like developing to me.

And yes, Good Defensemen are rare and valueble. But big Offensive Centers who can score are second on the valued player list. Many teams would covet a Brayden Schenn.

Doesn't Lamoriello seem like the kind of guy who doesn't trade prospects?

He'll let Larsson sit and sit and sit before he does anything -- isn't that his M.O., when you look at guys like Tedenby and Josefson? He just won't do anything?

He is just starting to come around. I am thinking him for my future #2. I could toss you Hodgson for Larsson.
- Mathwil3

Yea not sure he would be an upgrade on Henrique or Zajac so I would have to say no. If where had no one better and he could play on the second line I would do it.

NJ: Yakapov , Musil


EDM: NJ-1st, Larsson, Brunner

Doesn't Lamoriello seem like the kind of guy who doesn't trade prospects?

He'll let Larsson sit and sit and sit before he does anything -- isn't that his M.O., when you look at guys like Tedenby and Josefson? He just won't do anything?
- AllInForFlyers

Yea recently it seems that way. All of them first round picks, all of the Swedes, but You look at guys like Gelinas who was a second round pick who came in and got a lot of leash early and even might of been the reason Larsson never got back in the line up after his injury. Then there is Merril who is another second round pick and he is one of Petes favorites and averaged big minutes last season and now this year you have Severson who has literally been one of if not our best defense man this year, he also was a second round pick. So all these guys have been given way more leash then Larsson and if you watch him play when he has confidence its hard to tell why he is teh clear cut guy to sit of them. I think they all ( Tedenby, JJ,Larsson ) played a style of game that doesnt seem to be in tune with how Pete Deboer wants his players to play. He has just as much talent as those other guys so it has be he does something that pete feels you cant do in his system I really dont know.

NJ: Yakapov , Musil


EDM: NJ-1st, Larsson, Brunner
- dwoo33

There is no way I move our first this year ( And I believe we are a play off team this year ) because in the past three drafts we have managed to draft 2 players and they where selected at #s 29 and 30. Then add on that we would be losing our former fourth over all pick a first in a very good draft that will likely be better then the 29th and 30th we have gotten to pick from recently and Brunner (who I would almost give you for nothing lol ) Bottom line I dont think we should move our first this year but I would move our 2016 first. I also dont think Lou is interested in Yaks after what Kovalchuk did to us. Lastly I dont know if Yaks would get played by pete because of how he plays ( to much talent and not enough defense ).

I'm sorry, but you are high if you think that trade is fair for the bruins.

I'm sorry, but you are high if you think that trade is fair for the bruins.
- dothedougie

Ill be honest. Im pretty high right now.

There is no way I move our first this year ( And I believe we are a play off team this year ) because in the past three drafts we have managed to draft 2 players and they where selected at #s 29 and 30. Then add on that we would be losing our former fourth over all pick a first in a very good draft that will likely be better then the 29th and 30th we have gotten to pick from recently and Brunner (who I would almost give you for nothing lol ) Bottom line I dont think we should move our first this year but I would move our 2016 first. I also dont think Lou is interested in Yaks after what Kovalchuk did to us. Lastly I dont know if Yaks would get played by pete because of how he plays ( to much talent and not enough defense ).
- blizzzard

I could get optimistic over a line like Clowe - Henrique - Yak

I don't think Schenn's potential is a true #1. I can see him being a ~60 pt player though

Yea not sure he would be an upgrade on Henrique or Zajac so I would have to say no. If where had no one better and he could play on the second line I would do it.
- blizzzard

He was playing left wing which I think is his future calling. But I see your point, not what else I have that I would give up right now besides Stewart or Stafford and those are more rentals for you guys

Connor Murphy for Scott Laughton is more in the ball park
- sbroads24

I agree with this, Schenn does have a 20 goal, 40 point season under his belt so far, Murphy hasn't reached a similar level yet, same as Laughton.

There is no way I move our first this year ( And I believe we are a play off team this year ) because in the past three drafts we have managed to draft 2 players and they where selected at #s 29 and 30. Then add on that we would be losing our former fourth over all pick a first in a very good draft that will likely be better then the 29th and 30th we have gotten to pick from recently and Brunner (who I would almost give you for nothing lol ) Bottom line I dont think we should move our first this year but I would move our 2016 first. I also dont think Lou is interested in Yaks after what Kovalchuk did to us. Lastly I dont know if Yaks would get played by pete because of how he plays ( to much talent and not enough defense ).
- blizzzard

That won't work---too early to give up on Yak. In very limited ice-time he's been one of our best players. The Team is just starting to gain a bit of confidence. Yak has been mis-handled by Eakins who doesn't have 2 clues to rub together.
If we're trading Yak or Ebs, it'll be for an impact player now, not a prospect and certainly not a pick.

That won't work---too early to give up on Yak. In very limited ice-time he's been one of our best players. The Team is just starting to gain a bit of confidence. Yak has been mis-handled by Eakins who doesn't have 2 clues to rub together.
If we're trading Yak or Ebs, it'll be for an impact player now, not a prospect and certainly not a pick.
- haymac

Yea I was responding to someone who made a offer, it wasnt my offer lol

Brayden Schenn is big? 6'1 190?

What does that make RNH (6'0 190)?

Adam Larsson for Matt Hackett, Torrey Mitchell, and you choice of Benoit, Mezaros, or Weber. A good goalie prospect, 3rd liner forward, and a 3rd pairing defenseman. Let's start there
- Mathwil3

Rimmer, Gazdic, and Ference for Grigorenko. Let's start there.

Interesting takes. I think Flyers and Bruins are thinking more in the short term. Signing a guy like Derek Morris is probably more likely. You dont give up anything and you can negotiate a reasonable cap number.

I don't think the Flyers deal is bad at all. First, the Flyers are a team in desperation mode, so no one's offering them a totally fair deal. Second, I just don't think people who don't watch too much AZ hockey know all that much about Murphy.

This is a two-way defenseman who can skate and is the total package. Defenseman are generally worth more than forwards. Also, Schenn isn't really developing in the way it was thought he would.

When he was on LA, everyone in the world thought he'd be a star by now.
- James_Tanner

The Flyers have 4-5 dmen in the minors who are scheduled to be the future of the Flyers. They are not desperate, as most see this as a season in transition. They have some young guys they can call up and get through this rash of injuries.

Schenn is more valuable than an unproven, mostly unknown prospect from Arizona. The Flyers could easily trade him for a proven talent, but they are not making panic moves anymore. Homer is upstairs now, and Hextall has preached patience and letting the prospects become ready before playing.

Your trade proposition is not beneficial for the Flyers. If they were to make a trade, which I don't see happening.... at least not a core player being moved and I consider Schenn part of the young core, then it would be for a talent proven player, maybe a grey beard, and it would be minor.

Also..it's spelt Couturier...not the abortion of a spelling you provided.
And I don't see them trading him either.

Nice troll blog

The Flyers have 4-5 dmen in the minors who are scheduled to be the future of the Flyers. They are not desperate, as most see this as a season in transition. They have some young guys they can call up and get through this rash of injuries.

Schenn is more valuable than an unproven, mostly unknown prospect from Arizona. The Flyers could easily trade him for a proven talent, but they are not making panic moves anymore. Homer is upstairs now, and Hextall has preached patience and letting the prospects become ready before playing.

Your trade proposition is not beneficial for the Flyers. If they were to make a trade, which I don't see happening.... at least not a core player being moved and I consider Schenn part of the young core, then it would be for a talent proven player, maybe a grey beard, and it would be minor.

Also..it's spelt Couturier...not the abortion of a spelling you provided.
And I don't see them trading him either.
- meduser

Just a few points:

- Just because you haven't heard of Murphy doesn't make him bad. He is a first round pick, son of a former NHL, he has mobility, speed, a great shot and is - as a rookie - already a decent 2 way player.

He also happens to have massive offensive upside and is 6' 3".

- If you read Eklunds current post, it seems that I may have accurately projected a couple of trade proposals here since teams are apparently asking a first and a roster player for 3rd pairing NHL dmen. Murphy is potentially a top pairing player. He's already a decent second pairing guy.

- At least I admit I am just playing around and having fun. It's amazing to me how many of you guys know exactly what your GMs are thinking and exactly what they would or wouldn't do.

- Thanks for the hot spelling tip. Nothing ruins my day worse than knowing I misspelled the name of a player who realistically was probably 14 before he himself could spell it.

Gotta go watch hockey - love you all.

Nice troll blog
- karlsson

Excellent post however, thanks for contributing and having fun with us. We all appreciate it.

Excellent post however, thanks for contributing and having fun with us. We all appreciate it.
- James_Tanner

You guys miss Vrbs at all?

On what planet, in what universe, is Michalek worth a 1st rd pick, let alone a pretty decent prospect in Spooner?

Nice troll blog
- karlsson

For real!

You guys miss Vrbs at all?
- vancity787

Thought they should have resigned him, Chipchura on the second PP unit?