I get it and I am not coming at you by any means just pretty bored. I think though you would be better off keeping Gormely and Murphy and moving Yandle for what ever kid Edmonton gives up on. Or move a bigger piece like yandle for something bigger from the flyers. I really want us to move on from Larsson for how we have abused him but I know we would never trade with the flyers, Any team who gets Larsson from us will surely win the trade because of what we have done to his value and he really just seems like he needs a change of scenery at this point. I actually think us Devils fans and Flames fans have pretty much agreed on Larsson for Baertschi lol
- blizzzard

Larsson is a mystery, I don't know why he hasn't done better. Or maybe he's just Aki Berg? I used to think trading Yandle was a good idea, but he is so underrated across the league. He really is a legit #1 guy and his D is way stronger than people think.

Also, him and OEL on the PP is insane. They can't break that up, IMO.

I agree philly and AZ would be great partners for a trade.
I think Connor Murphy is underrated and would be a good get for philly, and i would certainly be willing to trade schenn, as philly has laughton in the minors.
i think philly would need to get a second rounder at least to make the deal worth while for the flyers, simply because of the experience factor.

i could also see flyers trading schenn for a player like cody franson on toronto if philly could magically get the cap to work lol.

What would you guys estimate the trade value of gormley? or is he a total untouchable?
im clearly no pro scout over here as i thought rundblad was going to be a stud d man.
- flyguy1911

Moving Schenn becuase we have Laughton doesn't make sense.

Schenn is strictly a LW for us. Laughton is a Center who has almost no experience ever playing the wing.

When Coots starts being put in offensive situations I'll start worrying about his ability to score.

He has 5 points right now. With the amount of D Zone starts he gets I'm okay with that for right now.
- hereticpride

I agree he has only recently been put in a position to put up more points so this year is his first test. He is 21 and way to early to give up on just like Larsson. Lets be fair though Yandle is a solid defense man and I dont see why he wouldnt be the best on the flyers team so a hefty price would be likely but he is also likely the best defense man who has the best chance of being moved. If I where the Flyers I wouldnt trade Schenn for Murphy but I might consider Yandle for Coots but again you would likely be a better judge of what Coots will be or should be then me so I could see why you might not want to but I believe he is more valuable to the flyers then he is to another team looking at him so they will try to offer low.

You're talking about being Michalek actually being a #2 or a 2nd pair type of guy? Cause that's what Michalek is now, a 2nd pair defensemen, or #3 at best.

The cost? Matt Fraser, Jordan Caron(Maybe) and a conditional 3rd.
- tomburton99

Were you suggesting Kelly was worth more than Michalek? Many BOS fans wanted to unload Kelly's cap hit for a bag of pucks this summer.

I agree philly and AZ would be great partners for a trade.
I think Connor Murphy is underrated and would be a good get for philly, and i would certainly be willing to trade schenn, as philly has laughton in the minors.
i think philly would need to get a second rounder at least to make the deal worth while for the flyers, simply because of the experience factor.

i could also see flyers trading schenn for a player like cody franson on toronto if philly could magically get the cap to work lol.

What would you guys estimate the trade value of gormley? or is he a total untouchable?
im clearly no pro scout over here as i thought rundblad was going to be a stud d man.
- flyguy1911

None of us are pro scouts lol, we're just having some fun. I don't think Gormely is untouchable at all. The only real untouchable the Coyotes have is OEL. Gormely could be really good and he's the reason I would consider moving Murphy if I was in charge. Murphy is a great players, everyone calling me an idiot has NO CLUE how good he is. But it's cool, it might be a laughable proposal, I mean, how would I know how Philly values Schenn - but to my mind it works.

Were you suggesting Kelly was worth more than Michalek? Many BOS fans wanted to unload Kelly's cap hit for a bag of pucks this summer.
- Nucker101

That was before he scored 7 points in the first 9 games!

Why would the flyers trade Schenn for murphy? If they move him it will be for Yandle or Michalek. Someone who is a proven NHL talent and a legit number 2-3 guy. They have a 50pt player in Schenn right now and he still has upside to get better so I dont think it would be smart to give that up for such an unproven defense man when they could just call up Ghost or one of their own guys.
- blizzzard

Totally agree. JT does not know Schenn's value or is over rating Murphy. Yandle is closer to a deal getting done. Taking Schenn's younger age into consideration and his potential to grow makes this doable, but unlikely.

Geezzz, the site must have been desperate for a Coyote's blogger when they brought you on. Although it was Eklund's decision after all... Real fair trade proposals there Jamesy boy lol.
- dwoo33

Geez dude, sorry the free entertainment doesn't meet your high standards. Admittedly I was only the second choice for Coyotes blogger after Elliot Friedman turned them down.

Larsson is a mystery, I don't know why he hasn't done better. Or maybe he's just Aki Berg? I used to think trading Yandle was a good idea, but he is so underrated across the league. He really is a legit #1 guy and his D is way stronger than people think.

Also, him and OEL on the PP is insane. They can't break that up, IMO.
- James_Tanner

I am starting to feel like a crazy person when I speak about Larsson becomes nobody believes he is good. I think every team has at least one situation that is hard for any other team to understand or another teams fan base. Njs is Larsson and how he has played more then well enough the last two camps to earn a spot but is the first to be pulled out if he makes any mistakes. No other defense man on the team gets the treatment Larsson does, Gelinas would be a close second as Merril and Severson seem to be the coach favs. Zidlicky tossed the puck up directly up the front of the net when we had a 3-2 lead against the rangers causing us to blow the lead on that play and lost in o.t and he didnt miss a beat after that and neither does sal when he is on the ice for like 6 of our 9 goals scored against us on the pk.

None of us are pro scouts lol, we're just having some fun. I don't think Gormely is untouchable at all. The only real untouchable the Coyotes have is OEL. Gormely could be really good and he's the reason I would consider moving Murphy if I was in charge. Murphy is a great players, everyone calling me an idiot has NO CLUE how good he is. But it's cool, it might be a laughable proposal, I mean, how would I know how Philly values Schenn - but to my mind it works.
- James_Tanner

Murphy for Schenn is a proposal that could be nurtured into something.

The trouble is, the Flyers have good young defensemen who can probably step in and provide what Murphy is providing. The Flyers need a proven, reliable defenseman, because they don't want to rush the kids.

I like Murphy, and Gormley for that matter, but for the Flyers to trade Schenn (even if it's a Schenn led package) they need a more proven guy.

If it involves either young player then it would have to involve atleast Yandle....Murphy is young and green....that doesn't help the Flyers today. They have there own young and green d men they can play.
They may be desperate for D help....but they need experience....
- landros 2

Serious question, why is trading one prospect for another ridiculous, but trading one of the NHL's elite Offensive Defensemen for a prospect is supposedly fair?

None of us are pro scouts lol, we're just having some fun. I don't think Gormely is untouchable at all. The only real untouchable the Coyotes have is OEL. Gormely could be really good and he's the reason I would consider moving Murphy if I was in charge. Murphy is a great players, everyone calling me an idiot has NO CLUE how good he is. But it's cool, it might be a laughable proposal, I mean, how would I know how Philly values Schenn - but to my mind it works.
- James_Tanner

They would consider trading Schenn, but it wouldn't be for Murphy. I don't think they'd be interested in Yandle either. They'd probably take Yandle for Schenn straight up, but I don't think they'd be putting together a package to acquire him. They have Streit, MDZ and now Ghost playing regular minutes. All of those guys are offensive defenseman. They need more two-way guys; at forward and defense.

Were you suggesting Kelly was worth more than Michalek? Many BOS fans wanted to unload Kelly's cap hit for a bag of pucks this summer.
- Nucker101

I think both have relatively similar value. Kelly has played well this year. Kelly also has another year on his contract. So Tanner is suggesting a signed player, a decent prospect a 1st round pick for a player that is way beyond his prime and could be a potential UFA in 6 months. No GM in the world, other than Bob Gainey, would make that deal

No, sorry. And children really ought to refer to me as Mr. Tanner.

Thanks in advance.
- James_Tanner

Best burn I've ever seen you make Tanner!

Moving Schenn becuase we have Laughton doesn't make sense.

Schenn is strictly a LW for us. Laughton is a Center who has almost no experience ever playing the wing.
- hereticpride

It actually does make sense because Schenn really is and wants to play center but is on the wing because of numbers at center. Laughton will be on the team for sure next year and Schenn has a good chance of being moved.

Murphy for Schenn is a proposal that could be nurtured into something.

The trouble is, the Flyers have good young defensemen who can probably step in and provide what Murphy is providing. The Flyers need a proven, reliable defenseman, because they don't want to rush the kids.

I like Murphy, and Gormley for that matter, but for the Flyers to trade Schenn (even if it's a Schenn led package) they need a more proven guy.
- Jsaquella

Well, that is certainly a reasonable, well thought out response. I hear you. I will say this though, if anyone wants Yandle, it's gonna take a lot more than just Schenn.

Best burn I've ever seen you make Tanner!

- IRON.MAIDEN

Yes!

It actually does make sense because Schenn really is and wants to play center but is on the wing because of numbers at center. Laughton will be on the team for sure next year and Schenn has a good chance of being moved.
- flyerdude17

I think they'd rather move Schenn for a mid-late first round pick than Murphy tbh.

Murphy for Schenn is a proposal that could be nurtured into something.

The trouble is, the Flyers have good young defensemen who can probably step in and provide what Murphy is providing. The Flyers need a proven, reliable defenseman, because they don't want to rush the kids.

I like Murphy, and Gormley for that matter, but for the Flyers to trade Schenn (even if it's a Schenn led package) they need a more proven guy.
- Jsaquella

Schenn for Yandle does get it done!

Well, that is certainly a reasonable, well thought out response. I hear you. I will say this though, if anyone wants Yandle, it's gonna take a lot more than just Schenn.
- James_Tanner

Agreed there. If I was the 'Yotes I'd want more than Schenn for Yandle.

If the Flyers were still helmed by Paul Holmgren, I think they'd be more apt to make that kind of deal. I think under Hextall, they want to be competitive now, but not at the cost of the future.

Interesting thoughts, though.

That was before he scored 7 points in the first 9 games!
- PhillySportsGuy

Now if goes pointless in his next 9 they'll want to waive him.

I think both have relatively similar value. Kelly has played well this year. Kelly also has another year on his contract. So Tanner is suggesting a signed player, a decent prospect a 1st round pick for a player that is way beyond his prime and could be a potential UFA in 6 months. No GM in the world, other than Bob Gainey, would make that deal
- tomburton99

Fair enough. I do agree that BOS would be laughed at if they gave up that much for Michalek.

Agreed there. If I was the 'Yotes I'd want more than Schenn for Yandle.

If the Flyers were still helmed by Paul Holmgren, I think they'd be more apt to make that kind of deal. I think under Hextall, they want to be competitive now, but not at the cost of the future.

Interesting thoughts, though.
- Jsaquella

Yea I cant see Hextall looking for a quick fix, especially at the cost of a good piece. You guys will be best suited to wait it out and try and chip away worst comes to worse you land a guy who will be that star to play with G and if everything works out you stay within a play off spot and dont lose any pieces you need for the future

Well, that is certainly a reasonable, well thought out response. I hear you. I will say this though, if anyone wants Yandle, it's gonna take a lot more than just Schenn.
- James_Tanner

I think you may be overvaluing Yandle a bit. He's an elite offensive player, but he's not a #1 you build a defense around.

It actually does make sense because Schenn really is and wants to play center but is on the wing because of numbers at center. Laughton will be on the team for sure next year and Schenn has a good chance of being moved.
- flyerdude17

Again, the two have little to do with one another. Schenn as a LW(that is what he is regardless of what he wants) getting moved does not get Laughton( a Center) in the NHL any faster.