Good, the real you is back

Disagree about LSCHENN

Pair him with Amac and see

I like MDZ but the pairing with Luke is a best a work in progress and at worst good for a major F-up once or twice a game
- Marc D

L. Schenn was a top 5 draft pick, it's his 7th year in the NHL, and the Flyers traded a 30 goal power forward for him.

We have to worry about sheltering him? At this stage shouldn't he be at the very least anchoring a second pairing? He's last in icetime on a patchwork defense core that has been playing without Coburn all year, and no Timonen. It's sink or swim time.

It grates me just to see Luke Schenn on the ice at this point, but I think you have to keep running him out there on the off chance that he finds his game.

I'd give it another couple of weeks before I start asking "should I bench Luke Schenn", but I don't know if Berube will. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Schenn was scratched when Coburn said he was ready to be back in the lineup.
- johndewar

Hextall may have missed his opportunity to trade him.

Yea but overall handsomeness of his line is down
- PhillySportsGuy

They let him play more with Christopher Letang to make up for this though, so it's a wash

Did you survive renal?
I saw the Mudpiles you posted the other day and laughed
- Marc D

Test on Tuesday!

Another one is indications for dialysis. AEIOU

Met acidosis, electrolyte abnormalities (K and Mg), Intoxication, Fluid Overload, and Uremia

Acronyms

L. Schenn was a top 5 draft pick, it's his 7th year in the NHL, and the Flyers traded a 30 goal power forward for him.

We have to worry about sheltering him? At this stage shouldn't he be at the very least anchoring a second pairing? He's last in icetime on a patchwork defense core that has been playing without Coburn all year, and no Timonen. It's sink or swim time.
- PLindbergh31

All true and the trade was not good value for them.
I still think LS is an ok defenseman especially if with the right partner.

He is a second pair D man with AMac on this team and also think the way MDZ plays has made Luke's stats worse.

I wouldn't trade him for a 2nd rounder but that is probably his current value. You are selling low I think, only getting a 2nd back.
Maybe I'm drinking the Orange koolaide here.

I wouldn't trade him for a 2nd rounder but that is probably his current value. You are selling low I think, only getting a 2nd back.
- Marc D

2015 2nd > LS

And I'm not a Luke hater, either.

2015 2nd > LS

And I'm not a Luke hater, either.
- Tomahawk

For Edmontons 2nd!

2015 2nd > LS

And I'm not a Luke hater, either.
- Tomahawk

Agree here, I think at the TDL maybe a 2nd, but not right now. I think he is a 3rd pair Dman, maybe a 2nd pair with the right player, unfortunately playing with MDZ has not worked. I wonder how long it will take chief to try something different

Agreed. Players like Claude Giroux and Shea Weber are only available with top-end lottery picks.
- jmatchett383

Yeah I would rather have them than Toews and Doughty and their multiple Stanley Cups.

Fun fact their has only be two cup winners since 1995 that didn't have a top 5 pick key contributor on their roster, Detroit 2008 and Boston 2011 (if you don't count Seguin). So 2 in 19 but high picks don't matter.

All true and the trade was not good value for them.
I still think LS is an ok defenseman especially if with the right partner.

He is a second pair D man with AMac on this team and also think the way MDZ plays has made Luke's stats worse.

I wouldn't trade him for a 2nd rounder but that is probably his current value. You are selling low I think, only getting a 2nd back.
Maybe I'm drinking the Orange koolaide here.
- Marc D

I don't think you are drinking kool-aid Marc. I respect your opinion. I just feel Schenn is what he is at this point.

2015 2nd > LS

And I'm not a Luke hater, either.
- Tomahawk

I know everyone is high on this year's draft but there is a chance the pick becomes a bust. I personally would rather get a prospect back, someone who is at least close to being an NHL player. I can see both sides of the argument

They let him play more with Christopher Letang to make up for this though, so it's a wash
- Marc D

Letang is not handsome. Not sure why he gets thrown into the handsome category by so many. He's grimy as (frank)

I know everyone is high on this year's draft but there is a chance the pick becomes a bust. I personally would rather get a prospect back, someone who is at least close to being an NHL player. I can see both sides of the argument
- Marc D

It's runs pretty deep this year... good chance of getting a Bergeron/Backes/Weber/Eriksson with a top-60 pick. With the Flyers draft acumen, I like the odds.

Getting Coburn back should be a big help. Also, any word on Lecavalier's return?
edit: nvm I can't read.

On a side note, this Kuemper kid for the Wild is, well, wild....4 games, 3 shutouts
- Streit2ThePoint

So glad I grabbed him for my fantasy team. Might end up being my saving grace

Yeah I would rather have them than Toews and Doughty and their multiple Stanley Cups.

Fun fact their has only be two cup winners since 1995 that didn't have a top 5 pick key contributor on their roster, Detroit 2008 and Boston 2011 (if you don't count Seguin). So 2 in 19 but high picks don't matter.
- psuhockey

So if the Flyers win the Cup this year, you can count Luke Schenn as a top contributor since he was 5th overall?

Please no goalie controversies

So glad I grabbed him for my fantasy team. Might end up being my saving grace
- mcefalu

I really thought about taking him too, wish I did. Hell I wish I remembered to be online for the draft time ended up with Bob and Howard

Yeah I would rather have them than Toews and Doughty and their multiple Stanley Cups.

Fun fact their has only be two cup winners since 1995 that didn't have a top 5 pick key contributor on their roster, Detroit 2008 and Boston 2011 (if you don't count Seguin). So 2 in 19 but high picks don't matter.
- psuhockey

Curious how you're counting this... because ANA didn't have a self-picked lottery guy in '07. Why wouldn't you count Seguin? 7pts in 13 games that run.

If it's just top-5 picks period, the Flyers actually have 3 on the active roster, and 6 top-10 picks. Of course, only Couturier was an in-house pick.

It grates me just to see Luke Schenn on the ice at this point, but I think you have to keep running him out there on the off chance that he finds his game.

I'd give it another couple of weeks before I start asking "should I bench Luke Schenn", but I don't know if Berube will. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Schenn was scratched when Coburn said he was ready to be back in the lineup.
- johndewar

The off-chance that he becomes a better skater, improves his hockey sense and stops overthinking everything on the ice?

It's runs pretty deep this year... good chance of getting a Bergeron/Backes/Weber/Eriksson with a top-60 pick. With the Flyers draft acumen, I like the odds.
- Tomahawk

2nd rounders for the Flyers used to be a black hole.
When they even kept the pick!
Hopefully they are turning it around.

2nd rounders for the Flyers used to be a black hole.
When they even kept the pick!
Hopefully they are turning it around.
- Marc D

Stolarz, Hagg and Aube-Kubel seem to have much more hype than guys in years past

Stolarz, Hagg and Aube-Kubel seem to have much more hype than guys in years past
- PhillySportsGuy

Recency bias?

So if the Flyers win the Cup this year, you can count Luke Schenn as a top contributor since he was 5th overall?
- jmatchett383

Sure because he is definitely on the same level of the likes of Yzerman, Neidermayer, Crosby or even Lecavalier and E.staal. I could also point out that there has only been 1 cup winner, the 2008 Detroit, since the Rangers in 1994 to win a cup without finishing bottom 10 in the league twice 6 years prior to their first cup, but I am sure you think that is some random meaningless coincidence because all those picks didn't play for the winning team. Even though a lot times those pieces were used in important trades. But hey the Flyers commitment to being competitive has payed of with multiple cup wins in the last 30+ years... Oh wait.

I do have an edit though in that Peter Forsberg was taken 6th overall and not top 5 although one could say he wouldn't even be on the Aves without #1 overall Lindros.

For Edmontons 2nd!
- 3flyerkids

In. A. Heartbeat.

Recency bias?
- bradleyc4

Who else? They haven't had many 2nd round picks in the last 10 years really. Nodl? Marshall? Ratchuk? Were those guys hyped like these current guys?