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TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Oct 24 @ 4:15 PM ET
doesnt maata now
- PhillaBully


Hey! What's the maata with you
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 24 @ 4:16 PM ET
Hey! What's the maata with you
- TheGreat28

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 24 @ 4:17 PM ET
Okay. Coots for Maata and Malkin.
- jmatchett383


you wouldnt want malkin. he doesnt backcheck.
dmleip
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.04.2009

Oct 24 @ 4:18 PM ET
Nobody is trading such players when they have them, unfortunately.

If Flyers hadn't been so cap-constrained, they no doubt would have interest in Boychuk and Leddy when the Bruins and Blackhawks were forced to trade those players.

- bmeltzer



Boychuk sure would have been nice!
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Oct 24 @ 4:18 PM ET

- PhillaBully


ok, back to our regularly scheduled panic and fear over possible GM actions
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 24 @ 4:19 PM ET
One step closer to LeCavalier and Macdonald on LTIR for the next 5 years.

Looking at the positives.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 24 @ 4:19 PM ET
What do you think happened with Coburn? Did he break his foot while rehabbing? Or was the initial diagnosis wrong? You work in the medical field, you would know better than I would.
- PLindbergh31

It could be a number of things..

Sometimes something as seamless as a normal ankle sprain (2 weeks) turns into a high ankle sprain (6+ weeks).. A bone bruise which was negative on x-rays for a fx (which is very common) presents itself as a true fracture a few weeks later.

I cant speak for the current situation, however, I can tell you that McCrossin has absolutely nothing to do with that.
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Oct 24 @ 4:20 PM ET
Your probably right. We're in a serious position of weakness.
- dmleip


The way I see it, you can really only look to the teams who are pretty much guaranteed to tank this year: Buffalo, Carolina, maybe Florida, since they're the ones most likely to sell, right? As poor as Edmonton has been so far, I think they're going to turn it around.

So that's really only Buffalo and Carolina. The only guys you might be able to get from Carolina are Liles, Hainsey, Sekera, Harrison and Gleason. Only guy I'd really be interested in is Sekera.

As for Buffalo, the only guy who I might be interested in who is available is Tyler Myers.

Not sure what it would cost to land either of them, but I'm not entirely sure it would be worthwhile
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 24 @ 4:22 PM ET
Hey! What's the maata with you
- TheGreat28

we'd trade for Maatta and end up with a Schmatte instead
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 24 @ 4:22 PM ET
We should trade for Kindl

- PhillySportsGuy


All kidding aside, he'd be a pretty decent add. 6'3, 220, mobile, puck skills. He'd probably step in and be their 2nd/3rd best dman right now, lol.

(hell, Grossmann/Schultz/Schenn wish they could flip a puck like that)
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 24 @ 4:23 PM ET
you wouldnt want malkin. he doesnt backcheck.
- stayinthefnnet


he lookchecks.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 24 @ 4:27 PM ET
he lookchecks.
- hammarby31


i see what you did there
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 24 @ 4:29 PM ET
i see what you did there
- stayinthefnnet


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 24 @ 4:31 PM ET
you wouldnt want malkin. he doesnt backcheck.
- stayinthefnnet


HIM NO FIGHT! HIM USELESS!
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 24 @ 4:31 PM ET
I felt really bad for Modry. He was playing with a heavy heart with his grandfather on his mind every game but...man, he just wasn't good at all.
- jmatchett383



But in true flyers fan fashion, some people kept defending Modry as not being at fault for any of the goals he was on the ice for. That he was a better defenseman than his stats indicated. It is only years later that everyone can agree that he sucked.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 24 @ 4:33 PM ET
All kidding aside, he'd be a pretty decent add. 6'3, 220, mobile, puck skills. He'd probably step in and be their 2nd/3rd best dman right now, lol.

(hell, Grossmann/Schultz/Schenn wish they could flip a puck like that)

- Tomahawk


I mean, right over the glove and under the bar.

Does it get any better than that?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 24 @ 4:34 PM ET
It could be a number of things..

Sometimes something as seamless as a normal ankle sprain (2 weeks) turns into a high ankle sprain (6+ weeks).. A bone bruise which was negative on x-rays for a fx (which is very common) presents itself as a true fracture a few weeks later.

I cant speak for the current situation, however, I can tell you that McCrossin has absolutely nothing to do with that.

- jak521


Fair enough. It seems like this happens repeatedly with the Flyers. I certainly think it's fair to question their medical staff.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 24 @ 4:34 PM ET
All kidding aside, he'd be a pretty decent add. 6'3, 220, mobile, puck skills. He'd probably step in and be their 2nd/3rd best dman right now, lol.

(hell, Grossmann/Schultz/Schenn wish they could flip a puck like that)

- Tomahawk

Wings fans hate him
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 24 @ 4:34 PM ET
One step closer to LeCavalier and Macdonald on LTIR for the next 5 years.

Looking at the positives.

- flyer_nutter




Lecavalier skated today. Which means in Flyers Universe he'll be back in December.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 24 @ 4:35 PM ET
But in true flyers fan fashion, some people kept defending Modry as not being at fault for any of the goals he was on the ice for. That he was a better defenseman than his stats indicated. It is only years later that everyone can agree that he sucked.
- Flyers_01


Flyers acquired him a few years too late, unfortunately. Ditto Kubina (whose legs were gone and who had a shoulder injury even before he got here).
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 24 @ 4:38 PM ET
Flyers acquired him a few years too late, unfortunately. Ditto Kubina (whose legs were gone and who had a shoulder injury even before he got here).
- bmeltzer


That's a common problem when acquiring older players. Fans and GMs that remember what players used to be able to do, not what they are able to do going forward.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 24 @ 4:39 PM ET
Wings fans hate him
- PhillySportsGuy


Most fanbases have a segment who hate most (or all) of their defensemen; seeing only the flaws and not the assets or at least a balance. Former first round picks get judged especially harshly.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 24 @ 4:41 PM ET
That's a common problem when acquiring older players. Fans and GMs that remember what players used to be able to do, not what they are able to do going forward.
- Flyers_01


Very true. In the case of GMs, they cross their fingers that the guy has one last run left in him.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 24 @ 4:42 PM ET
HIM NO FIGHT! HIM USELESS!
- jmatchett383


hey you said it not me.

im fresh off an argument the other day with someone in a bar that the flyers have been bad ever since they let carcillo go, and the fellow was of the mind that it wasnt too much of a coincidence....

but. serious question. i know how you feel the pens should trade malkin. i disagree, but i understand that framework is not without a logical foundation.

that being said. if you could acquire malkin for nothing, would you? the only condition is you cannot immediately turn and hawk him for assets. (i think thats a fairly obvious precursor, but you never know) and 2. what would you do from a flyers perspective then with your roster? because then wouldnt they be in close to the same boat the pens are in currently to you?

i have ten minutes before i shuffle off to the gym. they have been devoted to you. do not let me down.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 24 @ 4:47 PM ET
Wings fans hate him
- PhillySportsGuy


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