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Biggus Dickus
Montreal Canadiens
Location: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
Joined: 02.13.2010

Oct 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
There are other ways to improve our club besides making desperate trades and knee jerk reactions.
- Jeropotato

I agree with this
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Oct 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
It was sarcasm....the humour is that Yak has been just as good as Galchenyuk (or at least very close) in the Longview and currently, yet Gally has 'sky's the limit' potential and Yak is a bust according to the national media. If you watch Yak play everyday you would know how lame the bias is.
- Jeropotato


Up until last season, I would agree with you. They were =.
Have you seen Galchenyuk play this season? He made a huge step! Huge! That's why people are saying Gal>Yak.
And yes, I saw Yak play this season.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
It was sarcasm....the humour is that Yak has been just as good as Galchenyuk (or at least very close) in the Longview and currently, yet Gally has 'sky's the limit' potential and Yak is a bust according to the national media. If you watch Yak play everyday you would know how lame the bias is.
- Jeropotato

Yakupov is also a gym nut and a first-on, last-off guy at practice. He's got extraordinary character.

He's started the year as a positive possession player after being one of the most defensively maligned forwards in NHL history.

He's terribly underappreciated.
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Oct 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
for who?
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
no. Just no.

You still keep praising offensive stats only.

- soad_live

Relax boys, I'm not slamming Galchenyuk, I think he's gonna be great, I'm just illustrating that the media is all up on his nuts all the while saying Yak is garbage when that simply isn't true.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Oct 23 @ 11:19 AM ET
Yeah but at 24 years old, you know what Eberle will give you. At 20, you don't even know Galchenyuk's ceiling. And from what i'v seen to date this year, i have no problem to state that Galchenyuk is already has good has Eberle. To cite Bobby MacK :

Sky is the limit as far as what Galchenyuk's might do

Plus, he is a big forward who can play wing and center.

I think you would have to add a lot to Eberle to get your hands on Galchenyuk. Like Habs would have to add to Plekanec to get Eberle.

- soad_live


good to know it only takes 7 games
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:20 AM ET
Up until last season, I would agree with you. Have you seen Galchenyuk play this season? He made a huge step! Huge! That's why people are saying this.
And yes, I saw Yak play this season.

- fidopro


And your point is what? That Gally > Yak? Okay, sure. But the difference is not future superstar and Bust like many are eluding to.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Oct 23 @ 11:20 AM ET
Galchenyuk played on a third line with zero PP time.

Yakupov was -33 last year.

- Biggus Richardus



Holy (frank)- u didnt just go there???
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
So it's settled. Edmonton has all the stars in place. Their D corp will be stars in the next 2-3 years, and their goalie is pretty good.

Enough of these trade talks!
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
Galchenyuk played on a third line with zero PP time.

Yakupov was -33 last year.

- Biggus Richardus

Both Yakupov and Galchenyuk played on a third line and got 2+ minutes of PP time a game.

possession stats give an edge to Gally
soad_live
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Québec, QC
Joined: 10.23.2008

Oct 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
Relax boys, I'm not slamming Galchenyuk, I think he's gonna be great, I'm just illustrating that the media is all up on his nuts all the while saying Yak is garbage when that simply isn't true.
- Jeropotato


Not garbage but not as good as Galchenyuk, far from it.
Joel_Eh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Panel member of L'Antichambre, ON
Joined: 01.26.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
why do they need to rid of these guys? because a guy on the internet said so?

MTL wouldn't be doing EDM a favour by taking on Eberle. This is a made up rumour by Eklund. Jesus

- TheNugeIsHuge


I dont think anyone is saying you absolutely need to trade one of these players - they're saying that the kind of players you are looking for are generally coveted by their respective teams. They arent readily available and for the most part these teams arent intent on trading the player. So you may not get fair market value for Yak or Eberle IF oilers mgmt decides to trade them. The fans of other teams aren't the ones writing the articles and swirling trade rumours. If and its a big if Yak or Eb gets traded i'm not certain it will be for fair market value because the oilers are trading from a position of weakness. They are the ones losing and desperately trying to find a solution (not saying that letting them mature isnt a solution - just going with the media hype here).

As for the Galchenyuk debate i wouldnt trade him straight up for Eberle. Just like the Avs likely wouldnt trade Mack, the Lightning wouldnt trade Drouin...these are all players that have extremely high ceilings whereas I think we've got a fairly good idea of the type of player Eberle is (not saying he couldnt get much better just saying he is more of a known commodity then Galchenyuk). Personally, i think Galchenyuk will mature into a better player which is why i'd keep him - not saying its a guarantee or that he's better right this moment but thats just my opinion.
soad_live
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Québec, QC
Joined: 10.23.2008

Oct 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
good to know it only takes 7 games
- sensarmy_11


Yeah but i watch him play, and i guarantee you it will be the same in december and march.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Oct 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
Not garbage but not as good as Galchenyuk, far from it.
- soad_live



Time will tell buddy.... I will wait til they play similar minutes before making a final conclusion...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
I can't detect sarcasm through the screen, so frankly I can't help but think your an idiot
- Biggus Richardus

you're
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Oct 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
And your point is what? That Gally > Yak? Okay, sure. But the difference is not future superstar and Bust like many are eluding to.
- Jeropotato


Of course not. I would take Yak anytime if he's available.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Oct 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
Yeah but i watch him play, and i guarantee you it will be the same in december and march.
- soad_live



Holy poop- a real hockey psychic!! Who is winning the cup this year???
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:25 AM ET
So it's settled. Edmonton has all the stars in place. Their D corp will be stars in the next 2-3 years, and their goalie is pretty good.

Enough of these trade talks!

- l3ig_l2ecl

As far as young pieces in place on the organizational chart I would say they are close. Big challenge now is finding the right stop gap players to fill spots, mentor, and shelter as these guys develop.

I might be alone but I have no problem trading prospect depth, and future picks.

And for the record, I think the Oilers should continue to draft/release a goalie every year until we have someone there.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:25 AM ET
Eberle for Brad Marchand + Malcolm Subban


Marchand is exactly the type of player the Oilers need. I just watched the Oilers "play" earlier... what a boring game. I'd hate to see them live.

- RazzDazzle



It was no barn burner like teh TB - Calgary game for sure
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Oct 23 @ 11:25 AM ET
Time will tell buddy.... I will wait til they play similar minutes before making a final conclusion...
- saskoil21


Funny you say that, because if Gally plays more minutes per game than Yak this year, he played the same last year, and less the year before...

Gally 12 - 14 - 16
Yak 14 - 14 - 13
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 23 @ 11:26 AM ET
Holy poop- a real hockey psychic!! Who is winning the cup this year???
- saskoil21

Edmonton coincidentally
soad_live
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Québec, QC
Joined: 10.23.2008

Oct 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
Holy poop- a real hockey psychic!! Who is winning the cup this year???
- saskoil21


Edmonton
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:28 AM ET
Funny you say that, because if Gally plays more minutes per game than Yak this year, he played the same last year, and less the year before...

Gally 12 - 14 - 16
Yak 14 - 14 - 13

- fidopro


Not sure if it were you that compared their plus/minus, but I can garauntee that Yak would have a better result had he been a Hab. That's a useless stat anyway, but I thought I bring it up.
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:29 AM ET
Andrew Ferrence does blow, but between Petry, Marincin, Fayne and to a lesser degree Schultz we have plenty of 2nd pairing D. Top 2 D is what we need, not just another pretender.
- Jeropotato


Well, my point was that you couldn't ask for a 2C + a top 2 D for Eberle. And by top 4 D i mean Boychuk-esque a proven one not a fringe 2nd pairing like Fayne or Petry.
soad_live
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Québec, QC
Joined: 10.23.2008

Oct 23 @ 11:29 AM ET
Not sure if it were you that compared their plus/minus, but I can garauntee that Yak would have a better result had he been a Hab. That's a useless stat anyway, but I thought I bring it up.
- Jeropotato


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