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SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Oct 23 @ 8:04 PM ET
You can stop right there. My rule of thumb for post deletions and banning only happen when the arguments start being about the posters and not the points being made about the game/players. And keep in mind that refs delete posts AND any posts that quote the post that gets deleted, so that's why sometimes there are big gashes made in post count.
- stashu


Right, but when it comes to little jabs back and forth between posters there is too much grey area in judging what is truly offensive and what isn't. Too many different people out there in the world. Its never going to work itself out. The only way to assure you account for everyone's sensitivities is to take it to such an extreme level that it completely takes the enjoyment out of the website for the reader, mainly those who like to comment and debate. If someone is overly sensitive to the point where they feel like they must continuously argue at a rapid pace, or resort to using egregious language, then IMO thats when authority should step in. But other than that most of the poster vs poster arguing should just be left alone, have everyone act as if it didnt happen. Have the adults move on and not have to carry on like children. Not worth the trouble if you ask me. Id rather have a crowded house that might get somewhat rowdy from time to time than an empty one thats PG rated . It should all be fun in the end, no need to take this so seriously. Not trying to argue, just felt like i should explain further.

Now enough of this. Its game time.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 23 @ 8:05 PM ET
You quoted his post and bold his last sentence. Then said stop right there.
- Elbows15


That's not where he stopped though
jhawk159
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 10.13.2009

Oct 23 @ 8:17 PM ET
You guys catch the swipe Edzo took at Stalberg about the fourth line being where he belongs. Not that he's wrong........

BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Oct 23 @ 8:19 PM ET
Well it's nice to see that VERSTEEG is still playing with head up his A!$
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Oct 23 @ 8:20 PM ET
I think its okay to have refs to ban people who are clearly going out of bounds with their comments.

But the problem lies in defining what "clearly out of bounds" is.

I think for a hockey fan site this site has become a tad too "anal" so to speak when trying to define what is or isnt out of bounds.

I've seen far too many warnings or references to posts that, for anyone who is truly an adult, should not be taken as seriously as they are, or in no way should be found offensive to the point that it needs to be addressed by a form of authority.

IMO, unless someone is dumb enough to do something like using the "N" word, or threatening a family member, or bringing up personal info, or if they're some sort of non stop spamming troll, then there shouldn't be any consequences or even warnings of any kind that fuel what becomes an ongoing debate. There should be nothing, just get on with the hockey conversation. The more and more you try to further restrict what can be said, the more and more controversy there will be, and all readers will see will be non hockey related BS stemming from conversations about breaking rules or what not(like this very post). And they wont return. It seems like at least every other blog now there will be a debate about a post that went out of bounds(allegedly), or someone who got banned, and then it snowballs from there, then all of a sudden the place dies down and the hockey talk stops.

So, do u really wanna work that hard to nail down every little thing that could possibly be considered offensive ? Good luck. Thats hard enough to do in person, let alone online reading text. Or would you rather let the adults handle themselves, police what is only TRULY offensive and out of bounds, and thus allow for far more readers and fans?

I still like it here, and im not blaming this recent downspell on anyone in particular, but it really isn't the right way you should run the place. The standards for the code of conduct on the message boards of a hockey fan site should not be that strict. This site should be a source of entertainment and information for fans above all else, and with the recent times i fear its a bit too dull, and as a result there isn't nearly as much information. Wish everyone would just loosen up, make up, get along, and remember that we're all here for the same reason in the first place. GO HAWKS!

- SimpleJack


Well written. Great post SJ! Hopefully no one has taken offense to your well reasoned point.

southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Oct 23 @ 8:28 PM ET
Carcillo selling out to block a Webber shot...BALLS!!
Glenman12
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake County, IL
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 23 @ 8:29 PM ET
You guys catch the swipe Edzo took at Stalberg about the fourth line being where he belongs. Not that he's wrong........


- jhawk159

I was half listening and thought thats what I heard..
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Oct 23 @ 8:29 PM ET
Well written. Great post SJ! Hopefully no one has taken offense to your well reasoned point.


- HawkintheD


Thx. I tried to keep it classy enough.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Oct 23 @ 8:30 PM ET
Carcillo selling out to block a Webber shot...BALLS!!
- southernhawk


Yeah i loved his effort on that shift.

.......and a goal!!!!!!!!!
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Oct 23 @ 8:31 PM ET
Greeeeeezy goal by DA HAWKS
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Oct 23 @ 8:32 PM ET
There's some chirping going on down there....might get interesting
Hawks7
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.27.2014

Oct 23 @ 8:37 PM ET
I like how Edzo is calling out Ribeiro...seak Carcillo on him!!,
Glenman12
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake County, IL
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 23 @ 8:42 PM ET
final minute goal strikes again..
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Oct 23 @ 8:42 PM ET
I like how Edzo is calling out Ribeiro...seak Carcillo on him!!,
- Hawks7


Its coming
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Oct 23 @ 8:47 PM ET
Outplayed pretty thoroughly there. Lucky its only 1-1. Knew the Preds would be tough in their own building.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Oct 23 @ 8:48 PM ET
Backes being Backes..Again. What an ass.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Oct 23 @ 8:49 PM ET
Bickel was great vs philly.....now he fly by Bickel
jhawk159
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 10.13.2009

Oct 23 @ 8:50 PM ET
Backes being Backes..Again. What an ass.
- Elbows15


What did he do now?
TexasFlood
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Deep in the heart a .. .
Joined: 02.02.2013

Oct 23 @ 8:50 PM ET
Backes being Backes..Again. What an ass.
- Elbows15

And you're shocked by this? Just tuning up his game for Saturday.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Oct 23 @ 8:51 PM ET
And you're shocked by this? Just tuning up his game for Saturday.
- TexasFlood


Seabrook is gonna be lucky to make it out alive. I really hope nothing too crazy happens...
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Oct 23 @ 8:52 PM ET
What did he do now?
- jhawk159

Crosschecked D. Sedin in the back after the play and then face washed him. Then hid behind the ref when Bieksa came in.
TexasFlood
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Deep in the heart a .. .
Joined: 02.02.2013

Oct 23 @ 8:53 PM ET
Seabrook is gonna be lucky to make it out alive. I really hope nothing too crazy happens...
- SimpleJack

Yeah. I'm expecting an attempted payback from last spring. Actually, I think you'll see runs and cheap shots all over the ice.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Oct 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
Crosschecked D. Sedin in the back after the play and then face washed him. Then hid behind the ref when Bieksa came in.
- Elbows15



Bieksa woulda got his ass beat......but I say (frank) both of them
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Oct 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
Yeah. I'm expecting an attempted payback from last spring. Actually, I think you'll see runs and cheap shots all over the ice.
- TexasFlood

Seabrook just needs to get his butt end ready. Do it once and they will stop.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Oct 23 @ 8:55 PM ET
Bieksa woulda got his ass beat......but I say phuc both of them
- southernhawk

Bieksa would beat the poop out of Backes. Backes is a tough guy against smaller players.
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