He would have taken Yakupov plus something else. And it would have been worth it for both sides. Yakupov and Barkov would make a great dynamic duo for them.
- JohnFergusonJr

I dont think Tallon would have taken that. Just my opinion. I guess it depends on what the other something is.

I dont think Tallon would have taken that. Just my opinion. I guess it depends on what the other something is.
- poisondhearts37

I would have taken Sam Bennett too if they couldn't move up. But I think Tallon would have taken Yakupov and Nurse and it would still be worth it.

Of all the games Ive seen so far this year. Including other teams what not. I really really like what Im seeing from Marincin.
- poisondhearts37

I don't he's gonna be a stud necessarily , but a solid no 2 quite possibly, and I'm not calling him a turd for the trolls out there .

I would have taken Sam Bennett too if they couldn't move up. But I think Tallon would have taken Yakupov and Nurse and it would still be worth it.
- JohnFergusonJr

Thats def a hard tade to really put together. Once you put that other piece as theyre first. Thats def tough. Glad thats not my job.

I would have taken Sam Bennett too if they couldn't move up. But I think Tallon would have taken Yakupov and Nurse and it would still be worth it.
- JohnFergusonJr

I doubt that the Oilers would, but I'm not overly high on Ekblad myself. I've read and heard a lot of polarizing opinions on the kid.

I would have taken Sam Bennett too if they couldn't move up. But I think Tallon would have taken Yakupov and Nurse and it would still be worth it.
- JohnFergusonJr

bennet to the oilers u mean?
im sure his tenacity and compete were tough to pass up. but the oilers desperately needed size in skill positions up front.

I think draisaitl at 18 and 6'2-210, all with skill, was just too hard to pass up considering the group the oilers already have.


and no chance id make that trade.

I doubt that the Oilers would, but I'm not overly high on Ekblad myself. I've read and heard a lot of polarizing opinions on the kid.
- Jeropotato

this

of course if he turns out great, hindsight'll rear its gorgeous head. but many scouts questioned his ceiling.


too many question marks an not nearly enough of a slam dunk on ekblad to trade those two assets. one of em who might end up as good. or maybe even better

Thats def a hard tade to really put together. Once you put that other piece as theyre first. Thats def tough. Glad thats not my job.
- poisondhearts37

Hard to put together but definitely worth making, especially in the long run.

this

of course if he turns out great, hindsight'll rear its gorgeous head. but many scouts questioned his ceiling.


too many question marks to trade those two assets. one who might end up as good. or maybe even better
- hugefemale dog77

I never heard a respected scout say he had franchise defensemen skill. Not once. Heard it plenty from bloggers and MSM types tho.

It wouldnt surprise me if he was over hyped.

1. Huge kid had the physical attributes to make him stand out in junior.
2.NHL shortage of stud D-Men
3.Weak draft class as far as blue liners go.

All things that might cause teams to over rate the kid, but hey, if he wins a Norris I'll admit I'm wrong.

I am hardly a crazed fan. This was a response to your post about Eberle's ceiling. According to you this is a a good as it gets for the kid isn't it?

There are plenty of issues , and I'm not opposed to making (FAIR) trades, but selling low on these guys is poor asset management.
Now dishing off the future draft picks and so e decent farm hands is so ething I am firmly behind.
- Jeropotato

So how does Eberle become a guy who you can sell high on if the team is poop. You can't so your either stuck with what you have or you can sell lower

So how does Eberle become a guy who you can sell high on if the team is poop. You can't so your either stuck with what you have or you can sell lower
- jake24242

Team being poop or not means poop. If the player produces.

So how does Eberle become a guy who you can sell high on if the team is poop. You can't so your either stuck with what you have or you can sell lower
- jake24242

Stick with him if his perceived trade value is lower than on ice value to the Oilers, obviously. Not sure his trade value is as low as you guys and Glen Healy think.

Whatever man, it's your team. If your happy with the job MacTavish has done that's great.

In my opinion, until the Oilers completely wipe clean the whole front office and the whole system. No matter how many high draft picks they get they're still going to suck because they play like this:



Good team defense is the bare minimum in the NHL these days. Nobody in Edmonton has seemed to realize this for a long long time. Until you get a front office that demands it, a coach that teaches it, and players that play it you can't even begin to compete.
- noffsin6

You have a point but people really need to stop posting this pic...over the years there have been similar pics with pretty much every team.

This post is not smart. You don't have your finger anywhere near the pulse of the issues. Do some research and get back to us with an educated point of view. I am dissapointed that a Kings fan would make this kind of statement looking at how your team was constructed.
- Jeropotato

ty

Really?? The only high draft pick we had during Lombardi's rebuild was Doughty. Lombardi won the cup 6 years after he started his rebuild and a few play off appearances prior to the cup.

The Oilers are not even close to sniffing the playoffs, 2005/2006 season was the last time.

Lombardi rebuild with good solid drafting, good ole fashion Hockey trades and not having the luxury of consistent top 3 draft picks.

It's almost like the Oilers have no idea what direction they want to go. They are scared of pulling the trigger on big trades!!!

My assessment is spot on, your management team is completely and utterly lost in how to run a hockey organization based on the track record of the last 6 years. Again, Lombardi rebuild, made the playoffs and won the cup in 6 years.

The Oilers are not even close!!!

ty

Really?? The only high draft pick we had during Lombardi's rebuild was Doughty. Lombardi won the cup 6 years after he started his rebuild and a few play off appearances prior to the cup.

The Oilers are not even close to sniffing the playoffs, 2005/2006 season was the last time.

Lombardi rebuild with good solid drafting, good ole fashion Hockey trades and not having the luxury of consistent top 3 draft picks.

It's almost like the Oilers have no idea what direction they want to go. They are scared of pulling the trigger on big trades!!!

My assessment is spot on, your management team is completely and utterly lost in how to run a hockey organization based on the track record of the last 6 years. Again, Lombardi rebuild, made the playoffs and won the cup in 6 years.

The Oilers are not even close!!!
- blk4x499

by this logic; mact has 5 full seasons yet......

didnt lombardi draft schenn and hickey with lottery picks? (and went off the board for that pick as well!!) that was the 4th consecutive years the kings were bottom feeders. not all his job, but a couple of them under him. sounds familiar, no?
wasnt he almost axed when la was struggling badly even after the high picks due to his apparent "hesitancy to make a big move"? wouldve been his second time fired as gm......

or maybe he was waiting for the right one and didnt want to move the kings backwards?
sounds familiar, no?

u knew that mact has only had the job for 1 full season and the end of another one right? of course u did. u know he's made more moves and been more active since he took over than any other gm in the league right? of course u did.

u also know that big stars dont sign in edm and neither do big names waive their ntc to go to edm right? and take that into account when thinking of potential moves that mact should be making? of course u do.

im sure you believe your assessment is spot on cause u watch a ton of the media experts talk and read random dudes blogs. and then just reiterate the same words...

but in reality, no. your asessment of the oilers situation is anything but 'spot on'

You have a point but people really need to stop posting this pic...over the years there have been similar pics with pretty much every team.
- JLO961

just happened to the blues group (one of the elite groups in the game) a few nights ago. i remember seeing it on the highlights and then considered going online to capture a shot of it.
but decided against it, cause it doesnt matter how much logic or reason you use on a site like this.
its always the same exaggerations used over and over. the same uneducated thoughts spewn over and over. and the same ideas posted by one retard, used as fact in an million other posters comments

ty

Really?? The only high draft pick we had during Lombardi's rebuild was Doughty. Lombardi won the cup 6 years after he started his rebuild and a few play off appearances prior to the cup.

The Oilers are not even close to sniffing the playoffs, 2005/2006 season was the last time.

Lombardi rebuild with good solid drafting, good ole fashion Hockey trades and not having the luxury of consistent top 3 draft picks.

It's almost like the Oilers have no idea what direction they want to go. They are scared of pulling the trigger on big trades!!!

My assessment is spot on, your management team is completely and utterly lost in how to run a hockey organization based on the track record of the last 6 years. Again, Lombardi rebuild, made the playoffs and won the cup in 6 years.

The Oilers are not even close!!!
- blk4x499

"Based on the last 6 years"......

Excellent in depth investigation and assessment. You are a wizard. So tell me o' wise one....how far away are they? What pieces do they need? Realistically how do they obtain them.

Better yet, since your so brilliant, what would you do in the next 18 months if you ran the Oilers? Since that's how much time our GM has been in charge.

First thing I would do is clean out all management and hire a management team, from scouting to day to day operations.

You have a good structure in place, things will fall into place.

Your owner needs to stop hiring ex oilers, THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE HECK THER ARE DOING!

by this logic; mact has 5 full seasons yet......

didnt lombardi draft schenn and hickey with lottery picks? (and went off the board for that pick as well!!) that was the 4th consecutive years the kings were bottom feeders. not all his job, but a couple of them under him. sounds familiar, no?
wasnt he almost axed when la was struggling badly even after the high picks due to his apparent "hesitancy to make a big move"? wouldve been his second time fired as gm......

or maybe he was waiting for the right one and didnt want to move the kings backwards?
sounds familiar, no?

u knew that mact has only had the job for 1 full season and the end of another one right? of course u did. u know he's made more moves and been more active since he took over than any other gm in the league right? of course u did.

u also know that big stars dont sign in edm and neither do big names waive their ntc to go to edm right? and take that into account when thinking of potential moves that mact should be making? of course u do.

im sure you believe your assessment is spot on cause u watch a ton of the media experts talk and read random dudes blogs. and then just reiterate the same words...

but in reality, no. your asessment of the oilers situation is anything but 'spot on'
- hugefemale dog77

While Hickey and Schenn were lottery picks, my bad I left them out...He traded them and parlayed those players into a roster player Richards and a draft pick.

Lombardi has the balls to make bold moves to improve his roster and he has proven that over and over, what has your gm accomplished and why have they not made the playoffs? Please enlighten me with the decisions your management team has accomplished, or in this case what they have not accomplished in the same period of time...prove me wrong with my assessment.

One more thing, LA was not exactly a desireable place to play, because we sucked and taxes, the cost of living is extremely high in so cal, yet Lombardi found a way. So do not give me this no one wants to play in Edmonton stuff, build a winner and they will come, period.

While Hickey and Schenn were lottery picks, my bad I left them out...He traded them and parlayed those players into a roster player Richards and a draft pick.

Lombardi has the balls to make bold moves to improve his roster and he has proven that over and over, what has your gm accomplished and why have they not made the playoffs? Please enlighten me with the decisions your management team has accomplished, or in this case what they have not accomplished in the same period of time...prove me wrong with my assessment.

One more thing, LA was not exactly a desireable place to play, because we sucked and taxes, the cost of living is extremely high in so cal, yet Lombardi found a way. So do not give me this no one wants to play in Edmonton stuff, build a winner and they will come, period.
- blk4x499

Lomabardi had the job for how many years before he showed 'the balls' to make those trades.

Our manager has been on the job for a little more than a year. So what has he done?
How about a complete overhaul. Only 5 players remain on this club from the 2012-13 season. 5. He has been the busiest GM in the league in his short tenure.
Why hasent he made them a playoff team? How about because he inherited by far the worst team in the league.
The team was a huge mess. He is doing a pretty good job but nobody can expect him to fix all the problems in just over a year.

While Hickey and Schenn were lottery picks, my bad I left them out...He traded them and parlayed those players into a roster player Richards and a draft pick.

Lombardi has the balls to make bold moves to improve his roster and he has proven that over and over, what has your gm accomplished and why have they not made the playoffs? Please enlighten me with the decisions your management team has accomplished, or in this case what they have not accomplished in the same period of time...prove me wrong with my assessment.

One more thing, LA was not exactly a desireable place to play, because we sucked and taxes, the cost of living is extremely high in so cal, yet Lombardi found a way. So do not give this no one wants to play in Edmonton stuff, build a winner and they will come, period.
- blk4x499

U couldn't possibly be comparing signing or going to LA to edm.
Seriously? Do we need to even bother goin into the numbers of players refusing to waive for Edm? Or the ones that were offered more money, but decided to take less elsewhere?
Cmon. This isnt even debateable.
Hossa, Heatley, Nylander, pronger, Parise, Clarkson, miller etc etc etc. And that's just off the top of my head...

And again; mact has only missed the playoffs once since getting hired. And in relation to ur Lombardi nonsense, he's still got 5 years to equal the same achievements. Lombardi had more than 1 bottom feeder finishes after taking over. Which again; is more than mact thus far.
He didn't make those big trades for Richards or carter till 4-5 years in!
Ur so biased and clouded to the facts it's hard to even bother debating.
MacT made 1 fairly big/move in his first summer acquiring perron.

as I said; if we're gonna make comparisons, mact's got multiple years to make anymore significant moves and pull this garbage fire out of where it's currently at.

U couldn't possibly be comparing signing or going to LA to edm.
Seriously? Do we need to even bother goin into the numbers of players refusing to waive for Edm? Or the ones that were offered more money, but decided to take less elsewhere?
Cmon. This isnt even debateable.
Hossa, Heatley, Nylander, pronger, Parise, Clarkson, miller etc etc etc. And that's just off the top of my head...

And again; mact has only missed the playoffs once since getting hired. And in relation to ur Lombardi nonsense, he's still got 5 years to equal the same achievements. Lombardi had more than 1 bottom feeder finishes after taking over. Which again; is more than mact thus far.
He didn't make those big trades for Richards or carter till 4-5 years in!
Ur so biased and clouded to the facts it's hard to even bother debating.
MacT made 1 fairly big/move in his first summer acquiring perron.

as I said; if we're gonna make comparisons, mact's got multiple years to make anymore significant moves and pull this garbage fire out of where it's currently at.
- hugefemale dog77

Ok, this is going to go round and round, no point continuing this, The clock is running with Mac T, let see where your team is 4 years from now, hopefully they will make the playoffs by then, especially for the fans of the team.

Ok, this is going to go round and round, no point continuing this, The clock is running with Mac T, let see where your team is 4 years from now, hopefully they will make the playoffs by then, especially for the fans of the team.
- blk4x499

Fair enough. I think if Mac T has failed to make this team into a contender in 4 years than he should go down in history as one of the leagues worst GM's ( much like Steve Tambelinni). A year and half is a bit too soon to judge him fully, especially considering the poop show he inherited.

Lomabardi had the job for how many years before he showed 'the balls' to make those trades.

Our manager has been on the job for a little more than a year. So what has he done?
How about a complete overhaul. Only 5 players remain on this club from the 2012-13 season. 5. He has been the busiest GM in the league in his short tenure.
Why hasent he made them a playoff team? How about because he inherited by far the worst team in the league.
The team was a huge mess. He is doing a pretty good job but nobody can expect him to fix all the problems in just over a year.
- Jeropotato

No, Lombardi did not have the job for many years. He won the cup 6 years from the time he was hired as Kings GM. He had difficulty acquiring big name free agents in the beginning. Most of his free agent signings early on were fillers. He did have a few players in place where he was able to use for trades WIlliams and Johnson, then parlay Johnson into Carter.

I can understand your comparison what Mct has done, cleaning house in his first season. But in order to move on, some of the existing pieces you have will have to moved to improve. For example, We traded you Visnoski for two roster players, Green and Stoll. Mact is going to have to make a move in that same manner. We shall see what happens in the next 4 years to see what the state of the Oilers franchise is.

No, Lombardi did not have the job for many years. He won the cup years from the time he was hired as Kings GM. He had difficulty acquiring big name free agents in the beginning. Most of his free agent signings early on were fillers. He did have a few players in place where he was able to use for trades WIlliams and Johnson, then parlay Johnson into Carter.

I can understand your comparison what Mct has done, cleaning house in his first season. But in order to move on, some of the existing pieces you have will have to moved to improve. We shall see what happens in the next 4 years to see what the state of the Oilers franchise is.
- blk4x499

I personally do not believe that all of the 'young guns' are long for the Oilers. I'm not sure the timing is right to make trade pieces out of those guys yet, but I can see that time drawing near.