I agree.

Have you thought any more about the Franson for Nugent-Hopkins proposal?
- Aetherial

I agree.

Have you thought any more about the Franson for Nugent-Hopkins proposal?
- Aetherial

That's about as hilarious as Hemhoroids .

You're still not invited....

Keep playing along though and you may make the cut.
- Iggysbff

Invited to what ? I didn't get no invite, what gives?

Invited to what ? I didn't get no invite, what gives?
- Jeropotato

If you dont know what for. How could complain about not getting an invite.

That's about as hilarious as Hemhoroids .
- Jeropotato

Dude, hemorrhoids are pretty funny when someone else has them, especially a Habs fan.

If you dont know what for. How could complain about not getting an invite.
- poisondhearts37

It's probably for a gay orgy.... You don't want an invite...

It's probably for a gay orgy.... You don't want an invite...
- spitfire187

It involves PopCorn Chicken. So im working on it.

Invited to what ? I didn't get no invite, what gives?
- Jeropotato

Coga having a party in the oil threads. He's bringing KFC. You'll have to ask him whose on the invite list...

It involves PopCorn Chicken. So im working on it.
- poisondhearts37

your starting to sound like clouter.... Not good....

your starting to sound like clouter.... Not good....
- spitfire187

After reading these posts, it's pretty clear to me that a lot of people do not understand how sports really are. The main purpose of a team game is finding the RIGHT players for the RIGHT system and who ALL play well together.

Edmonton and Philadelphia are in very similar situations and have been. Trading a name for a couple other names almost never works, just like signing a free agent because he scored a lot on another team. Player performance and stats are directly affected by teammates, system and coaching philosophy. A 50 goal scorer on one team can easily become a 30 goal guy on many other teams.

Right now the problem with Edmonton, and Philadelphia, is they do not have a clear cut identity or direction. A team with just skill will not win, a team with just toughness will not win, a team that is balanced and know how to play together will win and probably even beat all-star teams thrown together.

Teams that are good...Chicago, Boston, LA, Pittsburgh, Anaheim, etc don't have all-star lineups, but when new players get added are taught the ways and blend in as if they are top players. Detroit did it for more of a decade. Organizations that find success should pass that success through their players as if it's culture. The bad organizations do not.

Teams that draft well can't just be called lucky because they obviously know what they need, what they look for and take it.

After reading these posts, it's pretty clear to me that a lot of people do not understand how sports really are. The main purpose of a team game is finding the RIGHT players for the RIGHT system and who ALL play well together.

Edmonton and Philadelphia are in very similar situations and have been. Trading a name for a couple other names almost never works, just like signing a free agent because he scored a lot on another team. Player performance and stats are directly affected by teammates, system and coaching philosophy. A 50 goal scorer on one team can easily become a 30 goal guy on many other teams.

Right now the problem with Edmonton, and Philadelphia, is they do not have a clear cut identity or direction. A team with just skill will not win, a team with just toughness will not win, a team that is balanced and know how to play together will win and probably even beat all-star teams thrown together.

Teams that are good...Chicago, Boston, LA, Pittsburgh, Anaheim, etc don't have all-star lineups, but when new players get added are taught the ways and blend in as if they are top players. Detroit did it for more of a decade. Organizations that find success should pass that success through their players as if it's culture. The bad organizations do not.

Teams that draft well can't just be called lucky because they obviously know what they need, what they look for and take it.
- Glak18

You were making sense till you said "Teams that are good...Chicago, Boston, LA, Pittsburgh, Anaheim, etc don't have all-star lineups".

These teams are stacked with All Stars!! Now I'm not so sure you know what you're talking about.

You were making sense till you said "Teams that are good...Chicago, Boston, LA, Pittsburgh, Anaheim, etc don't have all-star lineups".

These teams are stacked with All Stars!! Now I'm not so sure you know what you're talking about.
- RazzDazzle

There's a difference between having some elite players on the team and having an all-star lineup. Like I stated prior, good teams get elevated play from players who get taught how to play correctly.

If you don't mind, I would love for you to pick a team and break down their stacked all-star lineup. Actually you kind of proved my point because none of those teams are "stacked", they have the right players to complement each other.

EDIT: Detroit is always an incredible example. Their unsung heroes...Maltby, McCarthy, etc. How many "cast-aways" have they signed that ended up playing well for the team? The Bertuzzi's of the league?

- poisondhearts37

It's ok... I want popcorn chicken too...

Leafs should. Then get a real top line center.
- poisondhearts37

Hasn't worked for the last 10 years....

Nobody. The Oilers should trade nobody.

You never trade from a position of weakness and right now, the Oilers are in a position of weakness. Trading Eberle, RNH or Hall is just down right stupid and trading Yakupov right now is just as stupid because his value just isn't high enough to match his potential.

What they really need is a goalie who can carry the team but that shouldn't cost them any one of their big guys. A guy like Martin Jones or maybe Cam Ward should be what they are looking for.

I bet they don't want to trade anybody as it stands. Just let season run it's course and hope for another.

Nobody. The Oilers should trade nobody.

You never trade from a position of weakness and right now, the Oilers are in a position of weakness. Trading Eberle, RNH or Hall is just down right stupid and trading Yakupov right now is just as stupid because his value just isn't high enough to match his potential.

What they really need is a goalie who can carry the team but that shouldn't cost them any one of their big guys. A guy like Martin Jones or maybe Cam Ward should be what they are looking for.
- JohnFergusonJr

Can Ward is sure carrying those Canes...

rip to the soldier who lost his life today. we rooting for you ottawa!

There's a difference between having some elite players on the team and having an all-star lineup. Like I stated prior, good teams get elevated play from players who get taught how to play correctly.

If you don't mind, I would love for you to pick a team and break down their stacked all-star lineup. Actually you kind of proved my point because none of those teams are "stacked", they have the right players to complement each other.

EDIT: Detroit is always an incredible example. Their unsung heroes...Maltby, McCarthy, etc. How many "cast-aways" have they signed that ended up playing well for the team? The Bertuzzi's of the league?
- Glak18

I know what you're saying tho you worded it poorly . Teams like Chicago and have a stacked 'core' complimented with effective players that play supporting roles and compliment the talented players that the team has been built around.
It also helps when you have the ability to sign a Marian Hossa type to not be the centrepiece , but a great addition.

Seems to be the case.... the oilers arnt the only team to get off to a slow start but are the only team the needs to make a trade....
- HouseArrest187

I don't think it counts as a slow start anymore, when it's been 5+ years of the same

I don't think it counts as a slow start anymore, when it's been 5+ years of the same
- ehabs9

Subban for yak.... Final offer....

I know what you're saying tho you worded it poorly . Teams like Chicago and have a stacked 'core' complimented with effective players that play supporting roles and compliment the talented players that the team has been built around.
It also helps when you have the ability to sign a Marian Hossa type to not be the centrepiece , but a great addition.
- Jeropotato

Honestly what is the difference between a stacked core say like Chicago and the Islanders...

Execution, that is it. Every team truly have players that could potentially become great, but don't get recognized unless the whole team plays well.

How many fans really really knew Kopitar until he won a cup or LA finally started to make the playoffs. The exceptions only seem to be players on bad teams, BUT they score a lot...Erik Karlsson?

Can Ward is sure carrying those Canes...
- Iggysbff

You know he can face a lot of shots and still put up decent numbers and a change of scenary would be nice for him. Probably comes a lot cheaper than anybody else out there with his kind of pedigree.

Nobody. The Oilers should trade nobody.

You never trade from a position of weakness and right now, the Oilers are in a position of weakness. Trading Eberle, RNH or Hall is just down right stupid and trading Yakupov right now is just as stupid because his value just isn't high enough to match his potential.

What they really need is a goalie who can carry the team but that shouldn't cost them any one of their big guys. A guy like Martin Jones or maybe Cam Ward should be what they are looking for.
- JohnFergusonJr

I partially agree. If those assets are not valued as high as they should be then maybe look at trading our next couple of firsts? Hell, it sure looks to me that those picks highest value is the moment before the draft and 7 years later when that player is his prime .