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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 8:03 PM ET
Uhh, that's a lot of empty seats in Pittsburgh.
- hereticpride

pathetic. and people are always shown leaving early too.

i dont know how much money one can make where they can plunk down a few hundred for an evening and not squeeze all they can out of the experience, but thats just sad.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 22 @ 8:03 PM ET
I'd do more Tull song titles, but I don't know any
- Jsaquella


Bungle in the jungle
-aka how our D handles the puck

Thick as a brick
-a description of Luke Schenn's hockey sense

The Teacher
-Flyers next coach?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 22 @ 8:03 PM ET
Is eichel more a goal scorer? What current pro would his game possibly project to?
- Just5


He's like a Nash and Krieder molded into a beast of a player.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 8:03 PM ET
The problem with Luke Schenn is not that he's bad. Because he's not. But what's not happening, is he is not pushing for icetime. He's not pushing to move past Grossmann to move up the depth chart and get more responsibility.
- MJL

That's like saying, the problem with poop isn't that it's gross, it just doesn't smell good and I'd rather not eat it.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 22 @ 8:04 PM ET
come on luke send crosby back to the mental hospital with a monster hit today
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 8:04 PM ET
Is eichel more a goal scorer? What current pro would his game possibly project to?
- Just5


He's got everything so how a team wants to use him is up to them
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 8:04 PM ET
Well every team needs veterans and ones that know the system already, Coburn would probably be the best of all of them to keep. Obviously in 3 years the team defense is not going to be all of the prospects. If the Flyers are lucky 2 of the prospects are in the lineup in 3 years.
- Glak18


true. coburn shouldnt be your best defender. but he is a passable guy on the first pair with someone better than him, or fantastic to have on your second pairing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 8:04 PM ET
if we want to get into the well hes not a finished product yet thing, then fine. there really isnt a way to quantify the whole will he get any better thing. but to me, i cant see any one thing that he does exceptionally well. im not saying he is strictl echl fodder, but i dont think he really should be viewed as a core piece or a priority. i think he is currently slightly overpaid as it is, and really is best suited as as a third pair guy. the fact that that the flyers have both him and grossmann is a detriment to me.

this isnt just crap on the flyers players, as i think there is actually quite a bit of talent on the team. but luke schenn isnt a piece i really would value at this point.

and we could be getting into semantics here, but I would take your description of his scenario and put it in the bad category. either he doesnt have it, and hes bad. or he has it, and hes not pushing, and to me thats even worse.

- stayinthefnnet


I understand that. And really the sand clock for Luke Schenn getting better is almost out of sand. His strength is his physical play, and he makes a decent pass. But his positioning and reading of plays, isn't where it needs to be. Especially with the former due to average at best skating.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 8:05 PM ET
come on luke send crosby back to the mental hospital with a monster hit today
- 2Real

That would be great
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 8:05 PM ET
pathetic. and people are always shown leaving early too.

i dont know how much money one can make where they can plunk down a few hundred for an evening and not squeeze all they can out of the experience, but thats just sad.

- stayinthefnnet

I mean I get that it's a late weekday game but it's Flyers/Pens!

It looks like there are a solid 15-20 open seats in each section of the lower level.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 8:05 PM ET
Bungle in the jungle
-aka how our D handles the puck

Thick as a brick
-a description of Luke Schenn's hockey sense

The Teacher
-Flyers next coach?

- BiggE


2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 22 @ 8:05 PM ET
He's got everything so how a team wants to use him is up to them
- ob18

and yet there are some flyer fans that don't want these players
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 8:05 PM ET
come on luke send crosby back to the mental hospital with a monster hit today
- 2Real


he will probably come up with some failed attempt at a pass that ends up defying physics and finding its way to the back of the net since i just badmouthed him.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 8:06 PM ET
and yet there are some flyer fans that don't want these players
- 2Real


Not sure the reason but I'd take them and about 30 or so others in the 2015 draft
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 8:06 PM ET
I'm confused.
- flyer_nutter


Shifts where a player jumps off the bench on a line change while the puck is in play, don't count towards zone start statistics.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 22 @ 8:07 PM ET
and yet there are some flyer fans that don't want these players
- 2Real

Thank god sharks fans are here to provide us a beacon of light.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 22 @ 8:07 PM ET
Is eichel more a goal scorer? What current pro would his game possibly project to?
- Just5


He's a Carter/Perry/Getzlaf amalgam. Sinister toe drag, great shot, superb speed, and a stellar playmaker to boot. Size and a bit of jam as well.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 8:07 PM ET
Bungle in the jungle
-aka how our D handles the puck

Thick as a brick
-a description of Luke Schenn's hockey sense

The Teacher
-Flyers next coach?

- BiggE

U forgot the best one

Locomotive breath
-our 5 on 5 play

Edit: or aqualung: half our front office execs
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 8:07 PM ET
I understand that. And really the sand clock for Luke Schenn getting better is almost out of sand. His strength is his physical play, and he makes a decent pass. But his positioning and reading of plays, isn't where it needs to be. Especially with the former due to average at best skating.
- MJL


exactly. his skating is always going to be meh. i get that. you cant get blood from a stone. but if he is going to earn his keep being a guy who uses his mass to prevent other people from occupying ice space, he needs to get better at reading the play to get there first. he doesnt have recovery speed to rectify bad reads. i just dont see anything special about him.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 22 @ 8:07 PM ET
and yet there are some flyer fans that don't want these players
- 2Real


Not this one! I'd rather the team go down the drain rather than just sit on the rim of the seat.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 8:07 PM ET
He's a Carter/Perry/Getzlaf amalgam.
- Tomahawk


One player we can't watch but I'd have interest in is Jordan Greenway
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 8:08 PM ET
Rodger Goodell got some pipes.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 22 @ 8:08 PM ET
Bungle in the jungle
-aka how our D handles the puck

Thick as a brick
-a description of Luke Schenn's hockey sense

The Teacher
-Flyers next coach?

- BiggE



Sweet dream
Flyers 2015 draft?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 22 @ 8:08 PM ET
That guy just butchered O Canada. Tone the speed down fool.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 8:08 PM ET
exactly. his skating is always going to be meh. i get that. you cant get blood from a stone. but if he is going to earn his keep being a guy who uses his mass to prevent other people from occupying ice space, he needs to get better at reading the play to get there first. he doesnt have recovery speed to rectify bad reads. i just dont see anything special about him.
- stayinthefnnet


Well I think he hasn't been as bad as he has been made out to be. But right now, I don't see anything special about him either.
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