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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Oct 22 @ 6:35 PM ET
Grossmann, Amac, B. Schenn, and MDZ
- aflyerpower8



Amac's salary is prohibitive, you're probably not going to get much for him.

MDZ has almost no value at all right now. All you need to do is remember when he was taken in free agency and for how much, and add in how poorly he has played so far.

Grossman is a shadow of the player he once was, and he was never a Norris candidate.

B. Schenn might bring you a fair return.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 22 @ 6:35 PM ET
Grossmann, Amac, B. Schenn, and MDZ
- aflyerpower8


I would like to see B Schenn at center with proper wingers before trading him
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 6:36 PM ET
They're likely to end up between the 10th-17th picks, in terms of record, when it comes to the draft.

They will likely rebound, make a run and be in the hunt for the playoffs. Might even sneak in with one of the Wild Cards.

- Jsaquella

I want to believe this.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Oct 22 @ 6:37 PM ET
By value, you mean what? A lawn chair?
- 77rams



Preferably two lawn chairs and a cooler full of acceptable beverages. Maybe an umbrella too as a throw in.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 22 @ 6:37 PM ET
I would like to see B Schenn at center with proper wingers before trading him
- PhillySportsGuy


I would bet a paycheck that the second the Flyers trade him, you're going to see just that
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 22 @ 6:38 PM ET
I would like to see B Schenn at center with proper wingers before trading him
- PhillySportsGuy


Where are we going to get better wingers without trading someone like Schenn though?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 6:38 PM ET
I want to believe this.
- mayorofangrytown


I've felt this way since the start of the off season. And I get ripped for being negative.

Of course that ripping is from the same guy who says they're a playoff team with a "middle third" defense...which he also says has one guy capable of handling a primarily defensive role because the defense isn't good enough to cover for the other lines.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Oct 22 @ 6:39 PM ET
I've felt this way since the start of the off season. And I get ripped for being negative.

Of course that's from the same guy who says they're a playoff team with a "middle third" defense...which also has one guy capable of handling a primarily defensive role because the defense isn't good enough to cover for the other lines.

- Jsaquella


Your next jersey purchase should have the name D. Downer stitched on the back.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 22 @ 6:40 PM ET
I would like to see B Schenn at center with proper wingers before trading him
- PhillySportsGuy

like how we should see couturier with proper scoring wingers before we trade him?
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Oct 22 @ 6:40 PM ET
I would like to see B Schenn at center with proper wingers before trading him
- PhillySportsGuy


I would doubt if Hextall is inclined to sell low this early in the year, and he would be selling low if BSchenn was to be moved soon, unless the player in a problem in the room.

I agree, the best time to get any value from this team would be at the TDL.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 22 @ 6:40 PM ET
Your next jersey purchase should have the name D. Downer stitched on the back.
- Doc_Sarcasm


D for deepthroat?
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 22 @ 6:40 PM ET
Amac's salary is prohibitive, you're probably not going to get much for him.

MDZ has almost no value at all right now. All you need to do is remember when he was taken in free agency and for how much, and add in how poorly he has played so far.

Grossman is a shadow of the player he once was, and he was never a Norris candidate.

B. Schenn might bring you a fair return.

- Doc_Sarcasm


I figure some team will want to bolster defense at the deadline and give us something in the top four rounds for Grossmann and MDZ. Amac is a bit of a wildcard with his contract.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 22 @ 6:41 PM ET
I've felt this way since the start of the off season. And I get ripped for being negative.

Of course that ripping is from the same guy who says they're a playoff team with a "middle third" defense...which he also says has one guy capable of handling a primarily defensive role because the defense isn't good enough to cover for the other lines.

- Jsaquella

really? someone thinks we're a playoff team?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 6:41 PM ET
Your next jersey purchase should have the name D. Downer stitched on the back.
- Doc_Sarcasm


2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 22 @ 6:41 PM ET
D for deepthroat?
- flyer_nutter

no it's debbie buzzkillington
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 6:41 PM ET
I've felt this way since the start of the off season. And I get ripped for being negative.

Of course that ripping is from the same guy who says they're a playoff team with a "middle third" defense...which he also says has one guy capable of handling a primarily defensive role because the defense isn't good enough to cover for the other lines.

- Jsaquella

I can't remember being this negative about a season since the season that won't be named. I'm just hoping November brings some relief and they aren't broken by then.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Oct 22 @ 6:43 PM ET
no it's debbie buzzkillington
- 2Real



only nutter would go there.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 6:43 PM ET
I figure some team will want to bolster defense at the deadline and give us something in the top four rounds for Grossmann and MDZ. Amac is a bit of a wildcard with his contract.
- aflyerpower8


If there's a team that could use a decent guy for their 2nd PP unit or just a third pair guy who can create some offense they might have interest in MDZ. His deal is tiny, it expires this summer and he's shown he's capable in a certain role.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 22 @ 6:43 PM ET
Where are we going to get better wingers without trading someone like Schenn though?
- aflyerpower8


Raffl-G-Simmonds
Akeson/PEB-Schenn-Voracek
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 22 @ 6:44 PM ET
If there's a team that could use a decent guy for their 2nd PP unit or just a third pair guy who can create some offense they might have interest in MDZ. His deal is tiny, it expires this summer and he's shown he's capable in a certain role.
- Jsaquella


Exactly, despite no one wanting him in the summer, he could end up being the easiest to move.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Oct 22 @ 6:44 PM ET

- Jsaquella



oh god, thats glorious. i love it.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 22 @ 6:44 PM ET
yea but he's younger and needs to be rushed
- 2Real


then again....
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 6:45 PM ET
I can't remember being this negative about a season since the season that won't be named. I'm just hoping November brings some relief and they aren't broken by then.
- mayorofangrytown


I don't think they're a playoff team, myself, but they could sneak in. They're not as bad as they were against Chicago, and they have been competitive against some good teams.

Giroux will get hot at some point, and carry them to some wins and they'll make some noise. They're not Buffalo or Carolina.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 22 @ 6:46 PM ET
like how we should see couturier with proper scoring wingers before we trade him?
- 2Real


Yeah, we should -- why is it that almost every other team does it differently with their top 10 centers?

Steven Stamkos might not have started on the first line or the second line. But how long did it take for him to get on one of those two lines, when he made the NHL? Did he play as a checker for his first four seasons?

How long did it take Vincent Lecavalier to center a top line? Did he move to the wing, then back to center, then wing, then center, then wing?

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. Jonathan Toews. Anze Kopitar. Nicklas Backstrom.

How is it all those Top 12 centers miraculously find their way to centering a scoring line without being checkers and wingers, but the Flyers' guys just can't seem to find their way without it?

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 6:46 PM ET
oh god, thats glorious. i love it.
- Doc_Sarcasm


The movie overall is very funny, and Arnett kills it as Batman.
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