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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 5:23 PM ET
at what point do you start to consider the fact that given that statement, he just is what he is, and would rather take potential lumps with an unknown variable like akeson for a few weeks to see whats there? not attacking you personally, but i do really see the other side of the coin being played here, given how bylsma handled his younger players
- stayinthefnnet


I don't think you should take a player out of the lineup that is giving you the level of play that you want, and are happy with. To see what you have in another player. If a player like Rinaldo is playing poorly, then by all means give another player a shot, and sit Rinaldo. But that's not happening, and Rinaldo is playing well. Rinaldo has done something to earn the playing time and a new contract from the team. Akeson has to do the same. He'll get his chance.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 5:23 PM ET
Sanheim is on the WHL team. They have a separate one for each junior league.
- aflyerpower8


Oh, I know...I just didn't see that Morin was added.

And I read your post wrong
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 5:26 PM ET
BREAKING:
The Philadelphia Flyers have traded future 40-goal-scorer Patrick Sharp to the Chicago Blackhakws in exchange for career minor league Matt Ellison.

- jmatchett383


I personally don't think the Flyers should be looking to make major changes right now. But one thing I think they should be looking for, is to see if they can acquire a veteran defensive center with decent wheels, who is good on faceoffs for the 4th line. That is one small move that could help the team right now.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 5:27 PM ET
I personally don't think the Flyers should be looking to make major changes right now. But one thing I think they should be looking for, is to see if they can acquire a veteran defensive center with decent wheels, who is good on faceoffs for the 4th line. That is one small move that could help the team right now.
- MJL

like a manny maholtra type?
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Oct 22 @ 5:29 PM ET
I personally don't think the Flyers should be looking to make major changes right now. But one thing I think they should be looking for, is to see if they can acquire a veteran defensive center with decent wheels, who is good on faceoffs for the 4th line. That is one small move that could help the team right now.
- MJL



What happened to Adam Hall again? Dude killed the faceoff circles
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 22 @ 5:29 PM ET
like a manny maholtra type?
- stayinthefnnet


I kind of think they have that in Ryan White but not sure when he is back.

I'd let this dumpster fire burn all season long unless assets brought back are somewhat young and here long term.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 5:30 PM ET
What happened to Adam Hall again? Dude killed the faceoff circles
- Trainfellow


No need to bring him back. They re-signed Rinaldo and give Couturier all of Hall's D-Zone starts
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 22 @ 5:30 PM ET
I personally don't think the Flyers should be looking to make major changes right now. But one thing I think they should be looking for, is to see if they can acquire a veteran defensive center with decent wheels, who is good on faceoffs for the 4th line. That is one small move that could help the team right now.
- MJL


You just described Pierre-Edouard Bellemare.

(and RJ Umberger)
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 22 @ 5:30 PM ET
What happened to Adam Hall again? Dude killed the faceoff circles
- Trainfellow


He got killed everywhere else.

(he's off in Switzerland, I think)
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 22 @ 5:31 PM ET
I personally don't think the Flyers should be looking to make major changes right now. But one thing I think they should be looking for, is to see if they can acquire a veteran defensive center with decent wheels, who is good on faceoffs for the 4th line. That is one small move that could help the team right now.
- MJL


I'm sure we can pick up someone like that on waivers eventually. I've always been a fan of Peter Regin though I don't know how good he is at faceoffs.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Oct 22 @ 5:31 PM ET
Is there ever?
- Jsaquella


drudgery
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 5:33 PM ET
What happened to Adam Hall again? Dude killed the faceoff circles
- Trainfellow


Good faceoff man and PKer, but not a good 5 on 5 player.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Oct 22 @ 5:34 PM ET
I personally don't think the Flyers should be looking to make major changes right now. But one thing I think they should be looking for, is to see if they can acquire a veteran defensive center with decent wheels, who is good on faceoffs for the 4th line. That is one small move that could help the team right now.
- MJL

Not sure if Hexy is looking to do anything, but if he does, I'd sure like to see some nastiness added to this lineup. No, I don't mean an enforcer ... but just some piss and vinegar, especially on the D end. Right now this team looks WAY too easy to play against.

I do appreciate that they're the least penalized team in the league, but perhaps this can go too far. I kind of feel that they've lost a lot of emotion/aggressiveness. Perhaps a bit more aggressiveness and emotion might result in an extra penalty or two, but maybe that's a good thing? Maybe the Flyers play better when they play a bit more on the edge?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 5:34 PM ET
You just described Pierre-Edouard Bellemare.

(and RJ Umberger)

- Tomahawk


No, Bellemare is more of a forechecker and puck pursuit player. Umberger is better suited for the 3rd line.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 5:36 PM ET
No need to bring him back. They re-signed Rinaldo and give Couturier all of Hall's D-Zone starts
- Jsaquella


What was the talk about Hall in the off season? Not a good enough 5 on 5 player. Fans wanted more speed and better 5 on 5 possession. Not that they were wrong.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 5:36 PM ET
Not sure if Hexy is looking to do anything, but if he does, I'd sure like to see some nastiness added to this lineup. No, I don't mean an enforcer ... but just some piss and vinegar, especially on the D end. Right now this team looks WAY too easy to play against.

I do appreciate that they're the least penalized team in the league, but perhaps this can go too far. I kind of feel that they've lost a lot of emotion/aggressiveness. Perhaps a bit more aggressiveness and emotion might result in an extra penalty or two, but maybe that's a good thing? Maybe the Flyers play better when they play a bit more on the edge?

- FlyerGuy

youll probably see that tonight.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 5:37 PM ET
Not sure if Hexy is looking to do anything, but if he does, I'd sure like to see some nastiness added to this lineup. No, I don't mean an enforcer ... but just some piss and vinegar, especially on the D end. Right now this team looks WAY too easy to play against.

I do appreciate that they're the least penalized team in the league, but perhaps this can go too far. I kind of feel that they've lost a lot of emotion/aggressiveness. Perhaps a bit more aggressiveness and emotion might result in an extra penalty or two, but maybe that's a good thing? Maybe the Flyers play better when they play a bit more on the edge?

- FlyerGuy


They definitely lack emotion and aggressiveness in large parts of games. One of the biggest problems with this team right now,
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Oct 22 @ 5:38 PM ET
youll probably see that tonight.
- stayinthefnnet

hopefully ... otherwise it might be 8 zip Pens.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 22 @ 5:39 PM ET
No, Bellemare is more of a forechecker and puck pursuit player. Umberger is better suited for the 3rd line.
- MJL


Bellemare was a really accomplished defensive player in Sweden... and we know Swedes know two-way hockey.

Umby can play wherever, up and down the lineup, any F position. That's why he was attractive. He's no stranger to a 4th-line... just ask Todd Richards.

The point is to share the hard defensive minutes with competent players... not to get hung up on line designations. Why trade for that kind of player, when you already have candidates in-house?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 5:40 PM ET
hopefully ... otherwise it might be 8 zip Pens.

- FlyerGuy


theyd score 8 goals and find a way to lose.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 22 @ 5:44 PM ET
Bellemare was a really accomplished defensive player in Sweden... and we know Swedes know two-way hockey.

Umby can play wherever, up and down the lineup, any F position. That's why he was attractive. He's no stranger to a 4th-line... just ask Todd Richards.

The point is to share the hard defensive minutes with competent players... not to get hung up on line designations. Why trade for that kind of player, when you already have candidates in-house?

- Tomahawk


Umberger can only play on the third line. It's the law
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 5:44 PM ET
Bellemare was a really accomplished defensive player in Sweden... and we know Swedes know two-way hockey.

Umby can play wherever, up and down the lineup, any F position. That's why he was attractive. He's no stranger to a 4th-line... just ask Todd Richards.

The point is to share the hard defensive minutes with competent players... not to get hung up on line designations.

- Tomahawk


Bellemare is a solid two way player, but he's not that role playing shutdown defensive 4th line center that I'm talking about. He's more of a puck pursuit forechecking energy 4th line center that everyone wanted.

Umberger can play up and down the lineup. Doesn't mean he's best suited for the 4th line.

And I'm obviously aware of needing to share the hard defensive minutes or I wouldn't have posted suggesting that the Flyers acquire a 4th line checking center that started this conversation.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 22 @ 5:46 PM ET
11 scouts at flyers game . T panotch says trade coming
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 22 @ 5:46 PM ET
Umberger can only play on the third line. It's the law
- PhillySportsGuy


aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 22 @ 5:47 PM ET
11 scouts at flyers game . T panotch says trade coming
- Winning


Fingers crossed B. Schenn has the game of his life!
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